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Author Topic: Forceless Magnetic Flux  (Read 14397 times)

Offline Newton II

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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 09:33:04 AM »

But how will you create a current of moving positive charges?


That is an intersting question.  When you pass a DC through an electrolytic solution,  negative ions move towards anode causing negative  charge current and positive ions move towards cathode causing positive charge current. This happens only at very close vicinity of the electrodes.   Current between two electrodes is carried by charge carriers as usual.

So, if you keep the electrodes very close to each other, magnetic field prodced by negative charges fuses with anti magnetic field(!) produced by positive charges,  releasing energy thereby rising the temperature of electrolytic solution. This is what happens in cold fusion.  It is actually not 'cold fusion' but 'Field Fusion'!!!  We know that fusion of matter cannot happen at room temperatures.

But I don't know why it happens only with heavy water electrolysis. May be for the reason that heavy water is very heavy and very heavy positive ions move slowly towards cathode thereby providing time for field fusion!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cold_fusion

Just a joke!  please don't take it seriousley  ;D ;D


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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #15 on: February 03, 2014, 09:33:04 AM »

Offline vineet_kiran

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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #16 on: February 05, 2014, 07:20:07 PM »

May be for the reason that heavy water is very heavy and very heavy positive ions move slowly towards cathode thereby providing time for field fusion!!!


 
Is it confirming to Newton's  law of slow motion or loose motion? (diarrhea)

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Offline Newton II

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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2014, 01:50:21 PM »


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_current


Quote from wiki page :

In a vacuum, a beam of ions or electrons may be formed. In other conductive materials, the electric current is due to the flow of both positively and negatively charged particles at the same time. In still others, the current is entirely due to positive charge flow. For example, the electric currents in electrolytes are flows of positively and negatively charged ions. In a common lead-acid electrochemical cell, electric currents are composed of positive hydrogen ions (protons) flowing in one direction, and negative sulfate ions flowing in the other. Electric currents in sparks or plasma are flows of electrons as well as positive and negative ions. In ice and in certain solid electrolytes, the electric current is entirely composed of flowing ions.

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Water-ice and certain solid electrolytes called proton conductors contain positive hydrogen ions or "protons" which are mobile. In these materials, electric currents are composed of moving protons, as opposed to the moving electrons found in metals.



Offline vineet_kiran

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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2014, 04:08:13 PM »

Water-ice and certain solid electrolytes called proton conductors contain positive hydrogen ions or "protons" which are mobile. In these materials, electric currents are composed of moving protons, as opposed to the moving electrons found in metals.


Is it acceptable?  Flow of protons means flow of mass. Do you observe any mass flow between electrodes?   Protons cannot move alone leaving behind neutrons hence entire nucleus has to move resulting in 100% mass flow. (except incase of hydrogen which is made of only one proton). 
 


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« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2014, 09:16:42 AM »

Is it acceptable?  Flow of protons means flow of mass. Do you observe any mass flow between electrodes?   Protons cannot move alone leaving behind neutrons hence entire nucleus has to move resulting in 100% mass flow. (except incase of hydrogen which is made of only one proton).



It is very much acceptable.  What about electroplating?   In the process of electroplating,  the anode metal dissolves in electrolytic solution and moves towards cathode and gets plated (coated) on cathode.  It is a clear indication of mass flow.  You will not observe physical mass flow in the solution because it happens in microscale.   If you pass a very strong current of the order of thousands of amperes, you may clearly see mass flow between electrodes.

In a container full of water,  the water molecules will be moving in all directions as described by 'brownian motion'.   But do you observe any mass flow in water filled in container?   For an observer the water in container is stationary.  Only when you heat the water to some extent you will observe convection currents moving from bottom to top showing mass flow.


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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
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Offline vineet_kiran

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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2014, 11:43:45 AM »

In a container full of water,  the water molecules will be moving in all directions as described by 'brownian motion'.   But do you observe any mass flow in water filled in container?   For an observer the water in container is stationary.  Only when you heat the water to some extent you will observe convection currents moving from bottom to top showing mass flow.


 
That is a very interesting observation.   The brownian motion of water molecules in all directions cancell off with one another and movement of water as a whole will be zero inside the container keeping the water stationary inside the container.
 
By some method if you make the brownian motion of all molecules to happen in one direction,  will not the water as a whole move in that direction without taking any energy from external source?
 
 
 

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« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2014, 02:08:11 PM »

By some method if you make the brownian motion of all molecules to happen in one direction,  will not the water as a whole move in that direction without taking any energy from external source?


Yes...  it will.  Have a look at the following wiki page.   I think it is the only way to do it !! :-[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychokinesis


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Offline vineet_kiran

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Re: Forceless Magnetic Flux
« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2014, 04:45:59 AM »
That's funny!  Doing 'work'  by the 'Grace of Ghost' is not adviceable.

In liquids and gases molecules will be moving in all directions by brownian motion.  But in solids  molecules will be vibrating in all directions with zero net effect on the total mass.

A sudden strong force or impulse on a solid mass can cause all vibrating molecules to align in one direction for a fraction of time which causes physical motion in the direction of impulse.  This is what makes motion under impulse different from normal motion under normal force.  Energy developed under impulse need not be conservative since it has additional advantage of vibrating molecules.

Same thing may happen in mechanical resonance also.
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_vibration

 

 

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