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Author Topic: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.  (Read 6172 times)

Offline DaS Energy

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Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« on: December 11, 2013, 12:56:21 PM »
1 litre of 9 bar water pressure per second hydro produces 720 watts.
It takes 0.076KW to heat 1 litre of water 1*C in one minute.                             
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4.56 KW heats 1 litre of water 1*C per second.
1 litre 57 bar water pressure per second produces 4.56 Kilowatts.
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Carbon Dioxide – CO2 draws its heating from water, a 100% exchange.
CO2 at +40*C has 100 bar pressure.
CO2 at +80C has 10,000 bar pressure.
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247 bar pressure increase for each 1 degree Celsius of heating.
247 bar pressure to one litre of water per second produces 19.76 Kilowatts.
This is 15 Kilowatts more than needed to heat the water, heating the CO2 which pushes the water driving the hydro turbine.

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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2013, 10:48:13 AM »
                                                       An old idea,refered also by detailed numbers :
         http://worldwide.espacenet.com/searchResults?compact=false&PN=wo8300358&ST=advanced&locale=en_EP&DB=EPODOC


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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2013, 11:20:20 AM »
Hello lancaIV,

Sorry, cant see any correlation at all.    No mention of an 82% efficient hydro turbine to produce 720 watts for every litre per second of water at 9 bar pressure. No mention of heating water to heat the CO2.  No mention of a condenser for cooling the CO2. No mention of CO2 being the force behind the water movement.

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Peter

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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2013, 11:39:21 AM »
                                      a.        10-12 degrees temperature difference : no more as energy source
                                      b.         -271 degrees as density phenomen


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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 11:54:38 AM »
Hello lancaIV,

That you say is not coming up on the patent copy they download to me.
Could you do a cut and paste please of it saying "10-12 degrees temperature difference : no more as energy source" " -271 degrees as density phenomen"

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Peter

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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2013, 11:54:38 AM »
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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2013, 03:44:53 PM »
Hello Peter, a. related : do you use the "Description"-function or the "original document" ?
b.related: I please you for pardon,my fault.More then one decade before  I only have copied one page to paper from the delivered "patent" and I have thought that the  temperature/density relationship would make part of the total document, what is not .
Probably it will be find in the Fisher-engine papers. I will search for the right link.

Here a relatively cheap ceramic tile as "heat deposit/storage" for thermocyle-engines:
https://web.archive.org/web/20100411055920/http://www.io.com/~frg/history.htm


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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 04:42:05 PM »
Hello OCWL,

Thank you for the information, I gather so much and occasionally that I read prompts new developments.

I quote when referring to things not of our design. In the post I refer to the 82% efficient Francis and Pelton turbine. Kilowatts needed to heat one litre of water by one degree in one second is quote from Wattlow Industries America. Both web sourced.

The heated CO2 supplies the pressure to the water until the CO2 is released to the condenser where the natural refrigerant effect of the CO2 comes into play and goes cold.

The attached is one example of how all is done. Please note the vacuum left behind as the water leaves the condenser drawing in cold CO2 to the heating chamber.

Sorry about the attachment, should only carry 82% energy conversion water.

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Peter

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Re: Gas, Heat, Water and Hydro. Overunity cant be escaped.
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2013, 04:42:05 PM »
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