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Author Topic: How to make multiple Kicks  (Read 56331 times)

Offline Neo-X

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How to make multiple Kicks
« on: November 24, 2013, 04:31:20 AM »
Any idea on how to make multiple kicks?

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How to make multiple Kicks
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2013, 04:52:32 AM »
First we need a clear definition of what a single 'kick' is.  ;)

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2013, 10:38:46 AM »
In my opinion Kick is spike or a very short duration pulse of current like when we discharging capacitor in a spark gap. Steven Mark said we can produce multiple kicks by combining multiple frequencies and the only circuit i can think of to produce this effect is this.

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2013, 05:12:03 PM »
Is this kicky enough for you?

Horizontal: 0.1 millisecond per division;
Vertical: 200 volts per division (10x attenuated probe);
Kicks: about 2 microseconds wide;
and Steven Mark:  faker.


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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 07:45:10 PM »
In this clip we can see I get 17 discharges in succession then two separate ring downs, try to work that one out.  :)
I know what is going on but can anyone see by the waveform what is causing the the pumping first ring down ?

If the second main ring down does not look like it is screwing around I'm not sitting here, it looks like it's a screw/spiral to me.

Ignore the name of the video, it means nothing.

Video clip of Successive discharges
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLZZtKEzqs

..Steven Marks = Paid Faker.

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2013, 07:45:10 PM »
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Offline FatBird

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2013, 01:46:13 AM »
Farmhand claims Steven Mark was a PAID FAKER.


Since he believes that, WHY is he trying to duplicate SM's TPU KICKS theory?
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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 04:01:49 AM »
Farmhand claims Steven Mark was a PAID FAKER.


Since he believes that, WHY is he trying to duplicate SM's TPU KICKS theory?
.

I'm not. I don't know what led you to make that assumption, but it's wrong.

Earlier in the thread Kicks were equated to coil discharges and so I showed some in multiple. The setup that created the wave form had nothing whatsoever to do with Steve Marks.

It is a circuit of my own making and imagination to serve my own purpose. I was experimenting with breaking up Chopped DC pulses into multiple pulses per chopped pulse.

I simply ran an oscillator and gated it in a way that I could go from multiple pulses per chop to just the one. 

I used a Toroid with three primaries on it but I used them in parallel and at the same frequency not three different base frequencies or anything like that. There is three frequencies though.

1) There is the frequency of the blocks of chops.

2) There is the frequency of the rapid coil switching on off during the blocks.

3) There is the frequency of the load discharging.

Lets recap, in my setup all three frequencies serve a separate and valid purpose.

There is no three phase or rotating magnetic field, two frequencies are applied to the input control circuit and one is the output discharge based on voltage.

...

If kicks are coil discharges then there is nothing free about them unless the coils are charged for free.
...

Here's another clip with a similar wave form, I'm using the setup to power my dentists drill.  ;D Kidding, I'm just playing, I was doing some, EM wave form art work. You like ?

On this one the big ring down looks like a cone shaped propeller, a bit.  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPvo2GDY4C8

I think it's a kind of art, as in art to look at not an art as in an art to do.

..

As far as my opinion it is not offensive and a definite possibility. When people are too afraid to say what they think we have a situation of control.

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2013, 04:01:49 AM »
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Offline Magluvin

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2013, 07:12:53 AM »
In my opinion Kick is spike or a very short duration pulse of current like when we discharging capacitor in a spark gap. Steven Mark said we can produce multiple kicks by combining multiple frequencies and the only circuit i can think of to produce this effect is this.

Ive always wondered about that, using 3 signals to develop a sanding wave. But what does that have to do with kicking? ???   Not down playing your post, as the 3 freq deal seems to be some part of it, the tpu story.

I would guess that kicks are possibly from a field collapse discharge. If it is an electrical discharge then probably into a cap, but then what? An electrical collapse discharge into a coil doesnt do much if anything due to impedance of the destination coil, and the sharpness of the pulse.

But if it is a magnetic discharge into a coil, then we are dealing with transformer action, but possibly an odd configuration. Agent Gates had an 'odd' configuration that the secondary was wound on a cardboard tube, then the primary was wound on the tube like it was a toroid. The pri and sec were virtually perpendicular to each other. Tito has also mentioned many times to have coils perpendicular.  Then we've all seen the Hendershot drawings, what looks to be coils perpendicular to each other. Gates and Tito both atributed the TPU as having perpendicular coils, and tito n gates are from different ends of the forum.  But where did they get their foundation of perpendicular coils from? Did SM attribute his device to Hedershot ideas, or did Tesla use perpendicular coils also?

So transformer action of the kicks would be a higher probability, considering, but the bifi possibility could be involved also.

If we discharge the collapse electrically into a bifi coil, the bifi capacitance will take on that charge, where a normal coil wont accept it before it dissipates..

Just thoughts that I have come up with over time on the TPU.

I tried to follow Bruce, but he seems to gone into quiet mode on any result details.


Mags

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2013, 09:21:20 AM »
Ive always wondered about that, using 3 signals to develop a sanding wave. But what does that have to do with kicking? ???   Not down playing your post, as the 3 freq deal seems to be some part of it, the tpu story.

I would guess that kicks are possibly from a field collapse discharge. If it is an electrical discharge then probably into a cap, but then what? An electrical collapse discharge into a coil doesnt do much if anything due to impedance of the destination coil, and the sharpness of the pulse.

But if it is a magnetic discharge into a coil, then we are dealing with transformer action, but possibly an odd configuration. Agent Gates had an 'odd' configuration that the secondary was wound on a cardboard tube, then the primary was wound on the tube like it was a toroid. The pri and sec were virtually perpendicular to each other. Tito has also mentioned many times to have coils perpendicular.  Then we've all seen the Hendershot drawings, what looks to be coils perpendicular to each other. Gates and Tito both atributed the TPU as having perpendicular coils, and tito n gates are from different ends of the forum.  But where did they get their foundation of perpendicular coils from? Did SM attribute his device to Hedershot ideas, or did Tesla use perpendicular coils also?

So transformer action of the kicks would be a higher probability, considering, but the bifi possibility could be involved also.

If we discharge the collapse electrically into a bifi coil, the bifi capacitance will take on that charge, where a normal coil wont accept it before it dissipates..

Just thoughts that I have come up with over time on the TPU.

I tried to follow Bruce, but he seems to gone into quiet mode on any result details.


Mags


I copy some of steven mark posting that related to the perpendicularity of the coil. The clear only in what he said is the control coil must be perpendicular to the collector coil.



OK let us compare this story of the common radio.
Think of the power unit as a device similar to a radio receiver.
No I do not want to hear feed back informing me that I am trying to convince the world my unit works on radio waves!!!.
But it behaves very much like a simple radio receiver except for the fact that radio waves need to be amplified before they can be of any use to us.
My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio.
The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.
the important difference here is that in the case of the radio, you tune into the frequency and amplify it for use.
In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.
You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain.
It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it.
We instead must deliberately tune off the frequencies of conversion in order to make the thing properly work.
Remember that it is like a furnace which feeds itself.
The hotter it gets the more fuel it gives itself to burn.
That is why the control units are so very important.
Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self.


Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on topof the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the wayaround.
Start them up one at a time each.
Firstfrequency then second harmonic component into thesecond, then the third.
When you eventually strike thecord look out.
you will know what has happened at thatpoint.
In the mean time you can measure a slightoutput even if you do not strike the exact cord.
Larger collectors have a much greater ability tocollect and dissipate more energy then the smallerones. However, if they turn into a bomb it will notmake much difference...
There is no such thing as asmall lightning strike.
Perhaps a smaller one is saferbecause the only thing that will stop a red collectoris the disintegration of the matter acting as areceiver. IE. the wires all burn up.

Offline totoalas

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2013, 09:57:27 AM »
Hv + pulse + spark    does this satisfy urge ccircuit ?????   neo x
That how i did it

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2013, 05:34:33 PM »
Like Tito said, TPU works the same way like others.... frankly I don't see another source.... you must read Tesla related patents 20 times or more and then ask : what should I do to make it working with very low input power, what is missing (removed?) from the patent ? For that you must follow what is going on in patent very very closely and find the weak point...

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2013, 05:36:02 PM »
and by the "weak point" I mean something which forbid actual ou. The very problem is like Tesla stated - it is not single invention , it's art of wireless power


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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 12:47:57 AM »

I copy some of steven mark posting that related to the perpendicularity of the coil. The clear only in what he said is the control coil must be perpendicular to the collector coil.



OK let us compare this story of the common radio.
Think of the power unit as a device similar to a radio receiver.
No I do not want to hear feed back informing me that I am trying to convince the world my unit works on radio waves!!!.
But it behaves very much like a simple radio receiver except for the fact that radio waves need to be amplified before they can be of any use to us.
My units behave as though they are variable tuning devices, and we are tuning them to a frequency just like a radio.
The closer you get to the center frequency the more power you permit the collector to dissipate into a load.
the important difference here is that in the case of the radio, you tune into the frequency and amplify it for use.
In the case of my power unit, you create several frequencies within a space of the collector coil's circumference.
The frequencies are directly related to the circumference of the collector coil.
You can begin to collect the current and dissipate it with no need for amplification because the signal source also becomes the feed for the power source and has the natural tendency to run with gain.
It is important that you note that you can never tune too closely to the exact frequencies of power conversion because the power received by the collector will instantly destroy it.
We instead must deliberately tune off the frequencies of conversion in order to make the thing properly work.
Remember that it is like a furnace which feeds itself.
The hotter it gets the more fuel it gives itself to burn.
That is why the control units are so very important.
Without the control unit constantly monitoring the frequencies of operation and making the necessary changes to keep the whole thing off exact conversion frequency, then the unit would very quickly destroy it's self.


Listen, you need to make three coils or so one on topof the other.
But the important thing is to wrap the control coils perpendicularly around the collector coils.
There need to be three of them all the wayaround.
Start them up one at a time each.
Firstfrequency then second harmonic component into thesecond, then the third.
When you eventually strike thecord look out.
you will know what has happened at thatpoint.
In the mean time you can measure a slightoutput even if you do not strike the exact cord.
Larger collectors have a much greater ability tocollect and dissipate more energy then the smallerones. However, if they turn into a bomb it will notmake much difference...
There is no such thing as asmall lightning strike.
Perhaps a smaller one is saferbecause the only thing that will stop a red collectoris the disintegration of the matter acting as areceiver. IE. the wires all burn up.
Sounds great, got a schematic  :)

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 03:15:53 AM »


@TK
YOU are the fake and fraud, not SM.  Just because you don't have the aptitude to figure it out.   :P

@ALL
To make a single kick you only need a switch,  even a manual one, a voltage source, no current,  a resistor and scope.  Simplest thing on the planet.   ::)

Cheers,

Bruce

YouTube: Moved on to a relay from a manual switch in this video. I also built a magnetic sensor and that is what you see on my scope.  It does NOT pick up voltage, only current and then changes it to voltage to be picked up by the scope.  Later I moved on a 10 ohm resistor and learned to make many more and MUCH larger kicks. 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoVgSGbE2Vk&feature=youtu.be

AND

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wnEr0O75Sc

 

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2013, 10:16:28 AM »

Don't forget that there is still a fourth frequency and that is the Schumann-Resonaz in which to tune but not to close.

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Re: How to make multiple Kicks
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