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Author Topic: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth  (Read 19782 times)

ramset

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 12:52:36 PM »
Johan
Thank you for your reply.
 
Chet

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2013, 05:03:47 PM »
Hi Johan:

I am from Spain, what is the name of the soap? is the name kh7?

thanks

Johan_1955

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2013, 10:32:10 AM »
Hi Johan:

I am from Spain, what is the name of the soap? is the name kh7?

thanks


Hi Man,

Sorry for the delay, did miss the topic change announcement, old and busy!
With this below you find the AlCampo-Soap bottle photo, what we are using.
When you can not find these bottle's, just try A soap, and pre-mix it.
75% Diesel, 0.5-1% Soap, rest nice clean sweet water.
Test it in a simple diesel motor and straight compare the results.
A good soap for this, is giving with 20-25% mix, the same results as pure only diesel fuel.
The difference between 20 or 25%, is related to combustion camber shape, pre or direct.


Send you a PM, maybe we can see?


Regards, Johan

ramset

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2013, 05:33:56 PM »
Johan
Old??
I hope the 1955 is not your birth year ?,if so you're still a young Man  :D .
 
Thank you for sharing this very good information,I will share my findings!!
 
 
Nothing but grattitude from here!!
 
Chet

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #19 on: December 17, 2013, 11:16:15 AM »
Johan
Old??
I hope the 1955 is not your birth year ?,if so you're still a young Man  :D .
Thank you for sharing this very good information,I will share my findings!!
Nothing but grattitude from here!!
Chet


Hi Chet,
Thanks, and sorry for the delay, if you also did wait for that photo!?
If you, or some need, ask!! To many nice projects! ;-))
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Fear for Emulsified Fuel:
There is far too much programmed fear around, induced from semi-advisors being: Hero or Senior member, so sorry also here!?
But here on Stefan's OU-Site, I feel always young, still a NEWBY, to little number of posts, so its not about the contents? ;-))
But its good and also in fully harmony with not mine but the sleeping outside world, leaded/dominated out of compensation.
The semi-advisors, when they here about: Emulsified Fuel, panic, mine Piezo-Injectors, if they knowing ......... ?
Piezo-Injector is just a more stupid injector, acting like a High-Pressure 2-2 ventiel, perfect for this with 1.8-2Kbar.
Diesel Fuel direct from EVERY pump, BP/Shell ....... contains water, this between a 2 - 4 % is very normal naturally, Benzine even more!
With this, not meaning the condens, that the to much water for the Diesel-Fuel to absorb, when its complete again, with the 2-4%.
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About Emulsified Fuel:
Sorry, our current movies are very basic, but now YT lets our account being there! ;-))
The previous account White coat, fully explaining step by step, movies are in space .......
About our current simple YT-OT-films, with the 40-50% savings: Same recept of Emulsified-Fuel.
Only with HHO-gas, produced by same engine, and a back-Feed from the Exhaust for more Temp.
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The last point of bringing Heat back is the biggest fuel saving: With our Heat-Recovery ;-))
When a motor has 10Kw, we use and produce 30Kw of Heat, only the piston-engine is still stupid design.
But with that 30Kw of Heat, you can do a lot: Google and build a Flash-Steam-Engine on you exhaust manifold.
This will double direct your engine Fuel-Economy from 30-35% to just over 60% efficiency.
Again: Google and learn about: Steam-engine's, build one behind your Big-Spender Piston Combustion waister!!
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We did make & tested a Rotary-Vane-Engine, posted before, is far better, bit fuel on a Large Diameter of Rotor, (Torque).
Next time ..................


All I can say: People, grape a old one-cilinder diesel: Hatz, Farymann, Lister, Petter, ................ and jump over your fear borders!


Get alive again, advisors are talking out of own fear, killing with that the free thinking creating artists!


Kind regards, Johan

ramset

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #20 on: December 17, 2013, 02:25:15 PM »
""Get alive again, advisors are talking out of own fear, killing with that the free thinking creating artists!


Kind regards, Johan"""

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Sir you truly inspire .
Yes the phase change from water to steam [and back again],is too good to pass up.
 
This will be a fun topic,and your contributions greatly appreciated.
after all we are not getting any younger......... :'(
 
but hopefully wiser  :o
 
Tx
Chet
 
 

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #21 on: December 17, 2013, 05:11:23 PM »
Hi Chet,


Thanks, but you got me at the moment from pure ............. , help!
Where is the true social behaviour in sharing, feelings & respect, know mine panic, bit like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc


Most producing very passionate the new tax-payers, in and for a proven not working system, why addicted to XXX?
Claiming to love, but dumping them the product / kids fast a possible a school.
O yep, forgot, the mother needs also freedom, oeps, not forget the Gold-Card.
When you lucky in own choice / life, the contrasts becomes so, almost to clear!?
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7 types of electrical charge / current, only one we can direct measure.
Why, we did get only the tools that they want, so use your upper compartiment and go for it!
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Hoping that Luc has the patience, maybe one day they see even the good part of Ainslie/Gray/Papp ...........
Grape hammer, 2 rods in the soil, no, no, ...........
It has to go more easy, such spoiled & demanding towards a gift, of life?
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Next time, a maybe more about our working Rotary-Plasma-Engine, yep, again and also with water!


Regards, Johan

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #22 on: December 17, 2013, 07:07:14 PM »
Dear Johan_1955.

I have spent most of my life working with the Internal combustion engine, mainly the early ones !! I am also familiar with the use of water injection to reduce " Pinking " on Paraffin/kerosene engines.

I have also designed and built a few !!

Thought you might be interested in the following attachments taken from Rankin Kennedy's book " Modern engines and power generators 1905 "

I have often wondered how this would work scaled up ??

Cheers Grum.

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2013, 01:11:25 PM »
Dear Johan_1955.
I have spent most of my life working with the Internal combustion engine, mainly the early ones !! I am also familiar with the use of water injection to reduce " Pinking " on Paraffin/kerosene engines.
I have also designed and built a few !!
Thought you might be interested in the following attachments taken from Rankin Kennedy's book " Modern engines and power generators 1905 "
I have often wondered how this would work scaled up ??
Cheers Grum.


Dear Grum,


Thanks for reacting!


Your "Pinking" = Detonation, in a Spark-plug engine?


Than your water injection, was maybe the Pre-Water Injection, like: http://www.aquamist.co.uk/


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Thanks for the page's with "Vogt Engine", nice idea?


Only with the "Combustion-End-Pressure" on the hole engine casing, would it be possible with a Self Detonation / Diesel!?


But in the base, its like our solution for the Combined Dual Fuel Rotary Engine, we have a bit less water and smaller build, bit like a Liquid Ring Pump.


Regards, Johan

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2013, 09:32:36 PM »

Dear Grum,


Thanks for reacting!


Your "Pinking" = Detonation, in a Spark-plug engine?


Than your water injection, was maybe the Pre-Water Injection, like: http://www.aquamist.co.uk/


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Thanks for the page's with "Vogt Engine", nice idea?


Only with the "Combustion-End-Pressure" on the hole engine casing, would it be possible with a Self Detonation / Diesel!?


But in the base, its like our solution for the Combined Dual Fuel Rotary Engine, we have a bit less water and smaller build, bit like a Liquid Ring Pump.


Regards, Johan

Dear Johan_1955.

Every time I read that "Water injection" will severely damage your engine I grit my teeth!! For nearly 30 years Lister Paraffin engines were fitted with a water injector, tapped off the cooling system.
Suggested rate was 1 drip per second set by looking through a glass window on the drip feed assembly !! Most of my larger Lister's are now at a museum.  I can verify that the majority of my collection is still in perfect running order despite the vast quantities of water they consumed during their working life !!

"Pinking" or pre ignition knock was caused because the vaporised fuel had to be ignited at nearly 25 deg BTDC !! It was found that water injection cured this problem!! Back then fuel economy did not enter the equation !!  :)

Cheers Grum.

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Re: HHo (Hydrogen) and Diesel Injection...The Truth
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2013, 11:12:19 AM »
Dear Johan_1955.
Every time I read that "Water injection" will severely damage your engine I grit my teeth!! For nearly 30 years Lister Paraffin engines were fitted with a water injector, tapped off the cooling system.
Suggested rate was 1 drip per second set by looking through a glass window on the drip feed assembly !! Most of my larger Lister's are now at a museum.  I can verify that the majority of my collection is still in perfect running order despite the vast quantities of water they consumed during their working life !!
"Pinking" or pre ignition knock was caused because the vaporised fuel had to be ignited at nearly 25 deg BTDC !! It was found that water injection cured this problem!! Back then fuel economy did not enter the equation !!  :)
Cheers Grum.


Hi Grum,
Don't grit your teeth about water-injection:
They come from school, knowing all better, history is simply proven is OLD, so can't work.
Beside to many only marketing teachers, running a class like a Guantánamo Bay.[/size]
Teachers, willing to have groupies around them, for pleasing, was to much there.


We have simply to many: Non-Real writers, journalists, fashion driven, you know: Sterl., Dansing, ......


Your Lister, with the water feed from the cooling, smart warm water!
Was the cooling system filled with, anti-frost, Glycerine, that would create even some more burning benefit! ;-))


Pinking, thanks for explaining, was on the good knocking off-road, English is not my base!
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About Vogt-Engine:
Sorry, my reaction was to fast, its the perfect idea, for Pure only HHO, was to busy with mine state of building!


We know: Pure only HHO, has the huge contraction, this after the explosion.
Did do some years ago, good tests with a double-Acting, pneumatic cilinder, to use the + and the - in pressure state change.
Huge how the after explosion - pressure state is sucking in the Piston and rod, did not measure but massive force!
The Vogt-Engine: we could make 2 HHO-Cells directly on top of each side of the working piston, so in top of each of those 2-cil? cambers.
The flushing, pumping in the separate chambers is great for releasing the sticking HHO bubble's from the plate's.
No tube's, no back-flash or other fluide installation, its massive there where we need the HHO!! ;-)) THANKS!!


The use of HHO produced by the same engine, seems not economic, never did check it, time, but maybe so when we use both forces!?


We need thinking, fund raisers, with some marketing ability, but straight, maybe thats the base of current world problem?


THANKS, for making me dong, "the Engine contained HHO-Cell idea"! ;-))


Kind regards, Johan