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Offline magnetman12003

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OVERUNITY DEVICE
« on: October 05, 2013, 01:36:25 AM »
Hi All,
This device produces overunity in a rather different way. A lot more output than input.
I will sell the entire setup you see in this video to someone who is willing to part with $10,000 cash money.  Bring your own test equipment and any local police officer to conduct your own tests at my place in Michigan USA.  I must see your cash before we start testing. This is no scam or parlor trick folks.  Its the real thing. If it doesn't perform as stated you can leave with your cash and police escort.  OR   If you wish build your own as per what is shown on the video. You must use noted construction parts or dont expect the results I found.  Please contact me if interested.  Nay sayers not welcome or anyone just sight seeing without funds.
You can patent the setup your self or do with it whatever you wish once its sold.  In the meantime I have it entered for overunity prize money.  HERE IS THE VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V1GichewSA

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2013, 03:51:11 AM »
Looks pretty good.  ;) And your input n output voltages seem appropriate for looping the output to the input.

A further test that I would do is use 2 12v batteries in series(24v) and run the input from that and send the output to the input batteries and monitor the battery voltage. Also using a cap instead of the batteries is more definitive, but if the battery voltage(using batteries) climbs a good bit above resting voltage, then you may have something. And if it is that your setup puts out nearly double the input, the possibility that the output could overcharge the battery, and if the battery voltage goes up while running, then the input is up and the output is up and the battery goes up more.  Is your input and output electrically isolated in the circuit? Do you have a circuit drawn up?

Thanks for showing.  ;)

Mags

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2013, 04:00:19 AM »
 
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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2013, 06:20:41 AM »
Magnetman12003:

It's not really clear what you are doing in your clip.  What's apparent is measurement error.  You volt meter was jumping all over the place.  Your pulse motor is generating all sorts of EMI throwing off your digital multimeters.  You claim you are measuring DC but that's clearly not the case.  I am surprised that you are asking for money, but you have done it in the past.

There is nothing in your clip that's indicative of over unity and you really shouldn't be asking for money again.  Honestly, there is no value in what you are showing.

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« Last Edit: October 05, 2013, 11:05:52 AM by MileHigh »


Offline tinman

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2013, 08:31:08 AM »
Was i seeing wrong,or was magnetman measureing current from one of the volt meter lead's?.

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #5 on: October 05, 2013, 10:38:41 AM »
Not only that but it looked to me like he clamped the clampon meter ONTO, not around, the voltmeter lead.

Tinker around and make your measurements and claims all you like, but when you apply for monetary prizes or solicit money or offer something "apparently" bogus for sale like this.... I become interested.

What is shown in the video does not support the claim. There is more that I could say. Much more.
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« Reply #6 on: October 05, 2013, 10:54:36 AM »
From 5:14 to 5:18 you can see very clearly that he clamps the clampon meter ONTO the Black VOLTMETER lead.  The jaws aren't closed and the clamp is actually ON the wire not around it.

Since when does a voltmeter lead carry any current?

Since about 1968, when people put away their VTVMs and started using higher input impedance semiconductor devices, that's when.


I don't know whether to laugh or cry, really. I've typed several things and deleted them.

"Let me know, folks..." OK, Magnetman: Your claims are bogus because your measurements are bad. I don't know whether you are doing it on purpose or not, it's hard for me to believe that someone who can construct a Bedini motor doesn't know the basics of measuring current or voltage, nor has read the manual for the Craftsman clampon meter. You are trying to measure a lead which should NOT be carrying any current at all, at least not detectable. You are also misusing the meter by clamping it ON the wire not around it. The jaws of the meter must be completely and solidly closed, even a little bit of dirt in there can destroy the magnetic circuit that the meter depends on for accuracy, and they must be closed around the wire not onto it. This is BASIC meter usage.

Please retract your overunity claims until you at least can show some competence in measurement.

http://web.missouri.edu/~schumacherl/clampon%20meter.pdf

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Offline MasterPlaster

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #7 on: October 05, 2013, 11:48:29 AM »
I don't trust any measurement. Is it a self runner for start?


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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #8 on: October 05, 2013, 02:52:43 PM »
I think this so called overunity demo must go down as a classic example of how not to measure a circuit. This guy clearly has no idea how to use a clamp meter and does not realise that he should not even be using it in this application!  :(

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« Reply #9 on: October 05, 2013, 09:31:18 PM »
In the Description of the video on YT Magnetman says that he didn't pinch the wire in the jaws... but I think everyone can see clearly that he does indeed pinch the wire, in the times indicated above.

Further... he doesn't address the issue of the FACT that the lead to the voltmeter is the wrong place to measure current, AND it will not have any current in it anyway.

And the comedy of him pushing the reset button on the clampon until he gets numbers he likes is truly classic.

@Magnetman12003:

The Voltmeter is a high impedance device, it does NOT let measurable current through it, that is the whole point, Magnetman. Why do you not know this? I think you DO know it, and you are asking for money, and so that makes YOU a conscious fraud, there, Magnetman. The claim that you have made the measurement many times may be true.... and garbage "measurements" will be garbage every time you make them. Pushing the button until you see a number you like == selecting pretty bits of garbage.

You have disabled comments on your video. Come on, here, and have a discussion, and refute me. You cannot. 

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2013, 09:36:20 PM »
I don't trust any measurement. Is it a self runner for start?

Of course it is. Isn't it?

That is, until you arrive with your ten large and your rentacop. Then it will be mysteriously broken, or awaiting a critical part, or he will be too sick to demonstrate it.

Offline MenofFather

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2013, 09:36:40 PM »
Hi All,
This device produces overunity in a rather different way. A lot more output than input.
I will sell the entire setup you see in this video to someone who is willing to part with $10,000 cash money.  Bring your own test equipment and any local police officer to conduct your own tests at my place in Michigan USA.  I must see your cash before we start testing. This is no scam or parlor trick folks.  Its the real thing. If it doesn't perform as stated you can leave with your cash and police escort.  OR   If you wish build your own as per what is shown on the video. You must use noted construction parts or dont expect the results I found.  Please contact me if interested.  Nay sayers not welcome or anyone just sight seeing without funds.
You can patent the setup your self or do with it whatever you wish once its sold.  In the meantime I have it entered for overunity prize money.  HERE IS THE VIDEO:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0V1GichewSA
Shortly explain why in this vodeo is overunity?


Offline Magluvin

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2013, 09:53:06 PM »
Whoh, yep, missed that detail. When he pans down to the clamping zone, the vid seems to jump from showing the meter then almost instantaneously to the area where he clamps it. But then as it goes you see it. I assumed it was the wire going down to the led lamp(load) on the floor.

Yeah, that volt meter would have to be reading thousands of volts to get that much current moving through those leads. So if you clamp a wire in the opening of the jaw of the clamp, could a tiny current read as much as shown?

Mags

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #13 on: October 05, 2013, 11:21:15 PM »

Quote from above:

"Shortly explain why in this vodeo is overunity?"


Did you mean Voodooeo?

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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: OVERUNITY DEVICE
« Reply #14 on: October 05, 2013, 11:50:39 PM »
Whoh, yep, missed that detail. When he pans down to the clamping zone, the vid seems to jump from showing the meter then almost instantaneously to the area where he clamps it. But then as it goes you see it. I assumed it was the wire going down to the led lamp(load) on the floor.

Yeah, that volt meter would have to be reading thousands of volts to get that much current moving through those leads. So if you clamp a wire in the opening of the jaw of the clamp, could a tiny current read as much as shown?

Mags

There should be essentially Zero, and by essentially I mean... really close to zero current in the voltmeter leads. The input impedance of an ordinary DMM's voltmeter setting is in the Megohm range, my old Fluke 83 is 10 Meg.

So do the math. If there were thirty volts applied to the voltmeter what is the expected current through it? I = V/R, so 30/10,000,000 = 3 microAmps.

Good luck measuring that with a Hall effect DMM clampon, while spinning a huge magnet with a huge pulsing coil of wire nearby.

Just keep pushing the reset button until you get a number you like, that's how to do it.

Clearly, you can get that kind of reading using his technique... he proved that much in the video, anyway.

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