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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1075264 times)

Offline a.king21

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #75 on: August 21, 2013, 04:00:36 AM »
Is there ANYBODY that can post a SCHEMATIC or Circuit Diagram about this circuit??


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The circuit diagram is on page 4 by Hanon.
Input at the top, output at the bottom.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #76 on: August 21, 2013, 04:42:24 AM »
The circuit diagram is on page 4 by Hanon.
Input at the top, output at the bottom.
That and there are plenty of details and diagrams in Patrick Kelly's latest update of Chapter 3 of his Free energy book as well as the text of the patent in his Appendix now maintained by Lamare at http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/  where you can download the book, chapter and/or Appendix.   


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #77 on: August 21, 2013, 04:55:55 AM »
I gave this a quick and dirty half hearted try.  I think I spent a whole 15 minutes on it.  I don't want it to discourage anyone from trying as it was a one shot quick try.   I used an outside ground rod separate from the house electrical ground rod (although they are both close to the house) that is 8 foot long completely in the ground, copper clad type.   I used a big MOT that was being fed from an isolation 1:1 transformer into the MOT secondary (high turns of fine gauge wire).   I tried the primary of the MOT with the ground wire (12 gauge) wrapped around it.  I also tried running a separate wire around the secondary with just 2 turns and tried the ground wrapped around it.  Initially I was getting about 0.2 volts but I then reversed the input wires (think neutral and hot in house wiring) and I then got about 2 volts.  I then tried hooking the ground directly to the 2 loop wire and saw 12 volts but not enough current to even light a little 5mm LED.   I couldn't see any amps on my meter but I think when I went to the Fluke microamp scale I saw 1/10 of a microamp.   So that should be enough to run my house  ....   LOL.
   

I could see there would be a lot of other ways to go about this and a whole lot of things I didn't try yet so don't let my quick test discourage anyone.   It's really a simple device if there IS anything to it.  I'm not sure I have all the details right and there is also the possibility that like most patents they hide something to make it less likely to be copied.   

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #78 on: August 21, 2013, 05:07:18 AM »
e2:

Wow, my earth battery outputs more than that  and I have been able to light 400 leds, a 48" floro tube and also run a Bedini motor from it.  (Not at the same time)  I still don't see where these guys say the power is supposed to be coming from?

Thanks for reporting your tests.

Bill


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2013, 07:48:31 PM »

Latest Barbosa leal video today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb_xrj2y7Vg




Published on 23 Aug 2013
Power: 39.6 kW 220V
Generation capacity Month: 28,728 kWh
Equipment installed: Industrial application


If this is a patent investment free energy scam, it's the king of all free energy scams.
BTW I can't get it to work either.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #79 on: August 23, 2013, 07:48:31 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #80 on: August 23, 2013, 10:06:00 PM »
Friends, please have hope but do not push hard . Do you think those sharks looking around are ready to give the goods people need ?  Hmm...I really hope Barbosa can fix problems for poor people in Brasil giving them jobs and better dreams but what do you see ? An electric cooker for a poor family ? A home heating system for those burning everything around to get a bit af warm air ? Or maybe an air conditioner ?


No, just another meter.  Like in late Kapanadze videos, when money took the soul of good man....Recall now the ealier Tariel videos and Ismael Aviso both talking about fixing local community problems....

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #81 on: August 23, 2013, 10:40:20 PM »
This is clearly a criminal organization.  I can imagine that they bribed a production manager at this small wood shop so he or she would let them into the shop to film.  They put a sticker on an electrical box and then shot some video and put the clip up on YouTube.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #82 on: August 24, 2013, 02:16:27 AM »
This is clearly a criminal organization.  I can imagine that they bribed a production manager at this small wood shop so he or she would let them into the shop to film.  They put a sticker on an electrical box and then shot some video and put the clip up on YouTube.

Totally agree

At worst it is what you state.  At best, an 'electron trap' can be used to steal power from the grid.  What it definitely is NOT is OU!  If this were OU, you could take a AA battery and step up watts to anything you like.  But no, you always see these scammers plugging into mains wall outlets and using sleight of hand with 9 volt batteries.  LOL

Steven Mark was a con, Kapanadze and Bruces TPU is foolishness also.  LOL @ schumann resonance.

Bruce TPU wasnt interested in the truth and deletes statements that point out errors in his thinking.  This is not the path of 'scientific discovery".  How many of you here actually test your theories on the bench before posting?  I know what is fact because I test it all out.  If you ever want to discover the truth for yourself dont wait for someone else to hand it on a platter.  Do it yourself!

Happy testing!

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #83 on: August 24, 2013, 03:16:11 AM »
Latest Barbosa leal video today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb_xrj2y7Vg




Published on 23 Aug 2013
Power: 39.6 kW 220V
Generation capacity Month: 28,728 kWh
Equipment installed: Industrial application


If this is a patent investment free energy scam, it's the king of all free energy scams.
BTW I can't get it to work either.
Well that video didn't last long - it's already MIA (missing).   Could you give a brief description of what was in the video if there isn't another place it can be viewed?   
BTW a helpful PM suggested I was using the wrong kind of wire in my test.  I'm not exactly sure what is the right kind yet but I'm guessing it might be to do the 2 turn wrap with Iron wire instead of copper.  Haven't tried that yet but I will. 

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #84 on: August 24, 2013, 03:40:27 AM »
Bruce TPU wasnt interested in the truth and deletes statements that point out errors in his thinking.  This is not the path of 'scientific discovery".  How many of you here actually test your theories on the bench before posting?  I know what is fact because I test it all out.  If you ever want to discover the truth for yourself dont wait for someone else to hand it on a platter.  Do it yourself!

Happy testing!

Oops!! I must come and defend Bruce_TPU. In my opinion, he is not a con and his real intention is just to build the SM's TPU replica or something alike that will work. I see him as a dreamer with strong willpower but (unfortunately) SM fanatic. The Bible and SM are equal truth for him (unfortunately). Yes, I have the privilege to watch his present work through my (small) contribution, so, this is my conclusion.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #85 on: August 24, 2013, 03:59:08 AM »

I'm not exactly sure what is the right kind yet but I'm guessing it might be to do the 2 turn wrap with Iron wire instead of copper.  Haven't tried that yet but I will.

Iron wire? Copper wire?  If wound bifilar then this sounds a lot like the work of Nathan Stubblefield with his earth batteries.  Of course, if it is not real than the relationship does not matter.

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #86 on: August 24, 2013, 04:18:24 AM »
Don't forget the insulation. Different colors of insulation have different effects.

That is what screws people up when they start working with electronic circuits and house wiring. In electronic circuits the black insulation always means Ground, and in house wiring the black insulation always means Death. So it's no wonder people get confused -- not to mention the electrons.

And don't get me started about the red insulation.

That's why I always use bare wires whenever possible. A coil wound with completely bare wire has some very interesting OU effects, you should try it.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2013, 04:31:19 AM »
I take it that's a bit of sarcasm TK but true on the color of wiring insulation.   I agree it was a bad choice someone made along the way to have white for ground or neutral in house wiring with black the hot side considering standard battery or electronics is black for ground or negative with red for positive.   And of course there is the other hot leg in 240 VAC house wiring being red normally.   I started with electronics when I was very young but later wired 2 houses completely so I got used to both systems but still think it's something that could have been done differently when deciding on NEC wire colors.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #88 on: August 24, 2013, 04:39:22 AM »
I grew up playing with dc.  (car stereos, etc)  Then, I got into house wiring.  I asked the electrician i was working with if the white was the ground.  He said no, it was the neutral and has no relationship to ground whatsoever.  Fine.  What did I see at the breaker box?  All the white wires went to a bus bar that was....yes....tied to ground.  I agree the colors could have been handled better.  Then I got into 240 3 phase at our machine shop...that is really weird.

Bill


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #89 on: August 24, 2013, 06:35:19 AM »
Sarcasm? Moi?

The problem with ill-specified, or no, testable hypotheses and hand-waving explanations and so on is that it is always possible for the claimant to claim your "replication" failed to produce the needed results because you didn't duplicate some essential feature. What, your TPU doesn't work? Maybe it's not exactly the right diameter. Your MyLOW replication won't spin on its own? Well you can see that the magnets need to be precisely located to the hundredth of a millimeter. Your Brazilian selfpowered energy from the ground doesn't work even though you followed the patent exactly? You are clearly on the wrong side of the planet, it only works in the Southern Hemisphere.

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