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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1731866 times)

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1980 on: January 03, 2016, 08:12:27 PM »
Lalo2:

I suspect that you might be a sock puppet and I am not paid by anybody.  Don't you dare say that I "ruined this forum."  I am bringing value to this forum in my own way.  Your "first" posting devalues this forum so you better get your act together or I might be tempted to run off to an Internet cafe and create some new email addresses myself.

MileHigh

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1981 on: January 04, 2016, 04:53:05 AM »
Mile High
Read
In the message of the old man is the knowledge and experience
Goodbye and have a great year
Lalo2
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1982 on: January 21, 2016, 11:45:02 PM »
''RADIANT ENERGY''
Hey Guys good news ! This is the way to investigate more !? Although Igor himself says no OU ! I do see it different ! Anyway very good result by my friends ! Please check it out as it is a simple setup but promising results ! So do some test and of-course let everybody know ! First clip shows Nick doing a test and then Igor respond ! Can't wait to get my ZVS ! 8)

Nick's first run...
https://youtu.be/vymQ2uty51M

Igor's latest ...a big step !!!!???
https://youtu.be/ZDzAq5-soTM

Very first from Igor with an IT where he could not complete the looping because he had no pure sign inverter  !
https://youtu.be/IpAuvTBCugs?list=UUVesA155Der2tRd5vpyYdJw

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1983 on: January 29, 2016, 01:46:45 AM »
Hi everybody!!
Could somebody of you tell me if the barbosa and leal device is overunity???
I do not know if somebody of you could sucessful replicate it

Frank2025

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1984 on: January 29, 2016, 01:53:04 AM »
I do not know if you have seen this video in youtube. See the picture please. It is in spanish (i know spanish). This guy saysthat the schematic needs a capacitor to make possible to work, and the output is about 600 ampers.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1985 on: May 21, 2016, 10:43:36 PM »
Somebody could reply my post

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1986 on: May 21, 2016, 11:31:36 PM »
Frank;

First, you tell me if the first two pictures in the link below represent your understanding of
the effects of overunity energy?

Web Link;
http://hacknmod.com/hack/field-of-fluorescent-tubes-powered-by-ambient-current/

:S:MarkSCoffman

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1987 on: May 22, 2016, 01:00:44 AM »
Hi, I saw the pictures on your link. for me it is wireless electricity.
it is not overunity
the tubes are powered by the electricity that is on the cables
and in the third picture there is a guy with a tesla coil and it produces wireless electricity too

and it is the link of the video in youtube:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

Bob Smith

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1988 on: May 23, 2016, 03:15:02 AM »
I do not know if you have seen this video in youtube. See the picture please. It is in spanish (i know spanish). This guy saysthat the schematic needs a capacitor to make possible to work, and the output is about 600 ampers.
Frank,
I think the schematic is from Wilson Roa's work, if I am not mistaken. I believe this is the link to the video that contains it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM
Here is a fuller explanation by him about his setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zf4V-85FgE
Below is something I posted elsewhere about it--
Bob
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Analysis of Electron Capture Apparatus Barbosa/Leal
by Wilson RoaTrans. Bob Smith

Below is my Spanish-to-English translation of explanation by YT user Hibridor (Wilson Roa) of the B&L Electron Captor posted with his YouTube video entitled, Análisis Captor de Electrones Barbosa/Leal - Wilson Roa
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQEqzJmSsY

My document research and experiments bring me to the conclusion that Barbosa and Leal’s “Captor of Electrons” is based in the technology of Tesla’s spark gap and in the short circuit winding of William Barbat. I have also concluded that this setup performs three functions to deliver the final result:
1. ELEVATE THE VOLTAGE,
2. RAISE THE FREQUENCY,
3. LOWER THE VOLTAGE AND DELIVER WORKING ELECTRICITY FOR USEFUL OUTCOMES.

1. ELEVATE THE VOLTAGE: The setup that we see in the form of a transformer, referred to as an Electron Trap, is precisely this: a simple transformer. This same [transformer] accomplishes the function of Raising the Voltage of the System.

A first inductor winding is coiled in the transformer, both terminals of this winding are connected to the cables for Current Entry from the power utility. A second winding of very thick multi-stranded copper is coiled in the transformer with very few turns (from 1 to 3 turns). The terminals of this second winding are connected with one another in short circuit fashion, forming a closed loop.

Upon being supplied, the transformer, by way of the induction winding (Primary), there is generated in the Closed Loop (Secondary) a notable increase in amperage (Not in its voltage). This increase will depend on various factors: the quantity of turns in the inductor winding, the size of the transformer core, the thickness and material comprising the closed loop cable.
All the electron current which transits the short circuited winding or Closed Loop is kept in permanent circulation, an action which backfeeds the magnetic field of the transformer, and at the same time, generates a return induction (Self induction) to the same inductor winding (primary), provoking a raising of voltage in the primary winding.

2. RAISING THE FREQUENCY.
To take advantage of the high voltage generated, a High Tension Suppressor (VCL-Slim) is inserted into the Line cable (also called Potential or Positive) at the entry of the circuit.

This mechanism discharges the High Tension to a Thick Ground Cable (not obligatory to run cable to ground as Nikola Tesla explained in his patent 462,418), when the High Tension voltage exceeds the nominal capacity of the VCL-Slim, in the same way that a Spark Gap performs when the circuit voltage exceeds the dielectric capacity that separates its two points.

Given that the Closed Loop generates a stable Self-induction, the High Tension in the primary winding is stable as well. If the High Tension in the primary winding is stable and furthermore exceeds the nominal capacity of the VCL-Slim, then the discharge to ground will be constant and of high frequency.
In this system, the VCL-Slim is no longer a Passive mechanism (which is eventually activated to discharge a high tension which appears once in a while). Now it is an Active mechanism which discharges into a high tension in a Constant manner. This is an active component of the system, and in addition one of its fundamental key parts.

3. LOWER THE VOLTAGE AND DELIVER WORKING ELECTRICITY FOR USE.
To complete this action, one must measure the existing voltage between the Line cable (also called Potential or Positive) at the transformer input and the ground cable. We will take note that there is a high voltage (the same which generates the high tension). To continue, - with the system shut off – a third cable is connected (in the case of the BL Captor, consisting in various lines) to the input line to the transformer (potential or positive) and winds itself around the transformer to lower the desired voltage level. The far end of this cable will be connected to the output hookup [socket] together with another cable connected to the ground.
End of story.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1989 on: March 03, 2017, 12:40:56 PM »
Hi everybody!!
Could somebody of you tell me if the barbosa and leal device is overunity???
I do not know if somebody of you could sucessful replicate it

Hi,
    Most of the views on this forum thread have been chasing the wrong secret of the Barbosa and Leal "Discovery". There is no new discovery. Go over to energetic forum
 http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20091-barbosa-leal-devices-info-replication-details-43.html
and look at the last pages on their discussion. You will see a not so new Tesla coil configuration. That should ring warning bells about chasing dreams through misleading patents. You might learn and realise what is actually going on. What the Barbosa and Leal patent does is disguise Tesla's Asymmetrical transformer design. Over there, is a design posted by Bromikey on a design by Clarence who left Overunity due to harassment. The concepts and basic design are both well documented on the internet. So what does that say about Barbosa and Leal?

Good hunting, Pity about the 133pages of convoluted posts, mostly about nothing.

Regards

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1990 on: November 04, 2017, 02:51:08 PM »
Hello everybody,
This is my test on the loop. I don't have the ground connection. I test it to study only.

Test with one transformer:
 - The output of two transformer is not the same. The first one is 1.113v. The second one is 1.012v.
 - The current in the loop is very high (450A) and the wire is very hot.
Test with two transformer:
 - The current in the loop is about 8.3 A. (Because the current of two transformer is not the same).
 - If two transformer is the same, the current in the loop will be 0 A.

I still need more time to test and study.

Thanks,

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1991 on: March 18, 2018, 12:02:56 AM »
Hi all.

I'm new to this forum. I've been following & studying this topic for a while now. To ensure I summarize my understanding of the working unit that Clarence put together, I carefully made up the attached schematic.

Please let me know if I have this correct.

Mario.   

biel_sousa

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1992 on: August 10, 2018, 11:42:32 PM »
Hello people, I'm new here, so I've been researching this captor for months and watching some videos on the internet. I realized a lot of people are using different circuits, not worrying about the grounding grid, which is the most important! some said 60 grounding bars of 3 meters were needed to operate.

on youtube I found the following video that makes the most sense and that really works, before seeing this video I already suspected that it could be a circuit similar. look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM he used 1 grounding bar I'm leaving the schematic in the attachment, anyone there can do the same ??? I am almost sure that this scheme is what works and that may be the original of the barbosa and loyal and not this schemes that we see around the internet. it uses only one phase without the neutral and uses the earth to give DDP on the induction coil, and uses a capacitor in the ground.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

Look at the comment I found in the video, it's very interesting.

"Good evening, my friends, I'm Brazilian, and our friend from the Dominican Republic has made an effort to investigate the Earth's energy grab made by barbosa and loyal, I've been investigating this project for several months, until I discovered that he used a technology that exists a lot time in "shaded pole motor" motors, what happens is that the consumption in the phase continues more in the opposite direction to the half-cycle.
During the variation of the amplitude of the flow that passes through the short coil, current paths appear that create as many magnetic fields, weakening the flows that created them and opposing them. Thus, it is possible to decrease the magnetic flux over the shaded poles when the flux is increasing and maintain the magnitude of the field while it is decreasing. It turns out that there are two pulsating magnetic fields, which are not displaced by 90º (at most 45º), but their combined effect is the creation of a weak magnetic field, FINAL RESULT, IS ANULATION OF CONSUMPTION IN THE FACE AND THEREFORE WE HAVE TO USE THE EARTH FOR CONTINUATION OF THE SEMI-CYCLE."
« Last Edit: August 11, 2018, 04:24:32 AM by biel_sousa »

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1993 on: August 13, 2018, 04:18:27 AM »
Hello people, I'm new here, so I've been researching this captor for months and watching some videos on the internet. I realized a lot of people are using different circuits, not worrying about the grounding grid, which is the most important! some said 60 grounding bars of 3 meters were needed to operate.

on youtube I found the following video that makes the most sense and that really works, before seeing this video I already suspected that it could be a circuit similar. look at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM he used 1 grounding bar I'm leaving the schematic in the attachment, anyone there can do the same ??? I am almost sure that this scheme is what works and that may be the original of the barbosa and loyal and not this schemes that we see around the internet. it uses only one phase without the neutral and uses the earth to give DDP on the induction coil, and uses a capacitor in the ground.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LFmmyl1JmM

Look at the comment I found in the video, it's very interesting.

"Good evening, my friends, I'm Brazilian, and our friend from the Dominican Republic has made an effort to investigate the Earth's energy grab made by barbosa and loyal, I've been investigating this project for several months, until I discovered that he used a technology that exists a lot time in "shaded pole motor" motors, what happens is that the consumption in the phase continues more in the opposite direction to the half-cycle.
During the variation of the amplitude of the flow that passes through the short coil, current paths appear that create as many magnetic fields, weakening the flows that created them and opposing them. Thus, it is possible to decrease the magnetic flux over the shaded poles when the flux is increasing and maintain the magnitude of the field while it is decreasing. It turns out that there are two pulsating magnetic fields, which are not displaced by 90º (at most 45º), but their combined effect is the creation of a weak magnetic field, FINAL RESULT, IS ANULATION OF CONSUMPTION IN THE FACE AND THEREFORE WE HAVE TO USE THE EARTH FOR CONTINUATION OF THE SEMI-CYCLE."

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A historical account of Clarence’s replication of the B&L devices.pdf
« Reply #1994 on: September 06, 2018, 08:14:44 PM »
Hi everyone,

Clarence is not with us anymore.
I have decided to put together a short 10 page historical account of Clarence’s replication of the B&L devices.
I will be posting more here: http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/20091-barbosa-leal-devices-info-replication-details.html

Let me start with this:

POST #1548 A pot of gold --hopefully:
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THE WHOLE SOB DOES WHAT IT WAS SAID IT COULD DO!
I have Had it pulling energy from the ground up tp 9.8AMPS.
all of this while the KAW meter only shows 0.07 amps supplied from the mains and at 5.4 watts.
At first I thought it was a faulty KAW so I dug out the others and tried Four more of them - they all read the same.
I have run a floor fan, my microwave, my smart charger charging my battery banks, all at the same time - still NO CHANGE ON THE INPUT FROM THE MAINs- 0.07 amps at 5.4 watts.
I was just standing there dumbfounded.
All this time the # 12 wraps on the toroid only showed .5 amps with never changing!.
The following is a quote from a short 10 page PDF document I put together called 'A historical account of Clarence’s replication of the B&L devices.pdf'

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Mains Performance:
#1549 08-07-2017, 11:34 PM - ‘18.8 amps out for .07 amps in is quite an increase!’
#1551 08-08-2017, 12:55 AM - ‘loaded my setup with loads equaling 26 + amps on a wall plug outlet only rated for 20 amps MAX - no breaker trip’
#1746 10-21-2017, 10:05 PM - ‘I have put up to 37 AMP LOAD on a 20 amp wall socket for the unit I am still using DAILY. The watt reading shown on the KAW meter was ALWAYS very low. Be it Known AS LUC said that even the MINIMAL system Resistance WILL drop the system voltage as more loads are added.’
Shouldn't we all be retracing Clarence's steps from HERE?
I believe the PDF is a must for anyone looking into the Clarence replication.
Not only will it serve as a map of this whole thread, it will also allow you to see what each step made by Clarence was for and the progress made.

Judging character is not a measure of anyone's claims. This man, regardless of his ways and attitudes has labored for years towards this single goal. Even in his old age was undoubtedly a very capable man in all he did.

Clarence may have been fooled by B&L for 2 years but he was meticulous and adamant to get there. He may have done just what he set out to do in the end!
So the way I see it, the claim still stands as stated above and it is very clear to me.

Download the pdf below and let me know what you think:
Oh! and have a GREAT day!