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Author Topic: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal  (Read 1056876 times)

Offline hanon

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Hi all,

In this link you can search for Barbosa or Leal to find a very simple device which seems easy to replicate.

http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Chapt3.html

The device allegedly capture electrons from the ground (Energia da Terra) by a very simple and novel design. The inventors state that it can be self looped and the device shows a COP over 100. The inventors have filed 5 PCT patents which have been recently published ( WO2013104042, WO2013104039, WO2013104041, WO2013104043, WO2013104040). The inventors are brasilian and the patents are wirtten in portuguese.
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2013104042A1?cl=en

The main advantage of this generator is its simplicity. Here a video ( INPUT: 22 W , OUTPUT: 6000 W) :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRSP7h73u-Q

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2013, 05:02:08 AM »
Sounds like an earth battery.  I will check out the links.

Thanks,

Bill


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2013, 05:07:37 AM »
Is there a version of that video with English subtitles?  I don't have a clue as to what was going on there.  Do you have a translation?  Or, if you understand what they were saying...could you give me a short summary of what it was?

Thanks,

Bill

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2013, 01:13:00 PM »
Oh there are those test lights again-defently an OU setup with that many light's.
And yes- a translation would be great.
The link you posted for the solid state fancy transformers,have been tried many time's. This was one of Tom Beardens miracle machines-the MEG. But Tom is getting on in age,and he still isnt sitting on the snow white beaches of the bahama's,sipping on his pina colada,being faned by sexy girls in bikini's.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 01:53:35 PM »
Don't you just love it when people spend all this money on devices, video production and promotion, and then they "prove" their "overunity" with a couple of cheap clampon meters and a bank of lights... and maybe an electric fan or drill motor, and of course the 1500 Watt heater.

What you _never_ see is someone testing their devices with a proper integrating power meter, or using an oscilloscope with math capability to go all the way through to computing an energy integral.

Well, almost never....

 ;)


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2013, 01:53:35 PM »
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2013, 07:28:31 PM »
Well they are spending a lot of money and trouble if it's fake.   Patents applied for in 198 countries.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2013, 08:19:35 PM »
Well they are spending a lot of money and trouble if it's fake.   Patents applied for in 198 countries.

Oh really? There are only 193 members and two observer states in the United Nations, for a total of 195. There are some other places that claim sovereignty, but let's face it, if they aren't in the UN, who cares if they have a patent there or not.

But don't claimants usually just file a single WIPO application, that then covers a lot of countries?

And of course all those patent APPLICATION numbers listed in the OP are just that: applications, not granted patents.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2013, 08:26:13 PM »

Hi,
I have checked the patents and they are not yet extended to any specific country. They have just filed the 5 PCT, and they have time to extend the patents to other countries until July in 2014.

By now they have expent some money in patents 5 X 5000 $ aprox. each PCT . I have read that they did a public demo of their generators.

I only understand portuguese partially: in the video the explain that thier generators take the charge form the earth by the grounding wire. They just have to excite the generator with a small current and the output is much bigger. The first device produce 6 KW (and the do a demo with the lights while the input was just 22 W (0.1 A at 220 V). The intermediate device produce 280 KW , and the bigger device produce around 1 MW.


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2013, 10:44:01 PM »
Lets say for the hell of it,its real, I'm not fully convinced it is,it could still be a trick.
It looks sort of looks like the Tariel Kap device made in turkey most of the parts in that video are non functional,
only whats in the metal boxes is real.If this device can produce large amounts of current as claimed it could power an electric car,at least 70% of
oil is used for transportation,it could cause an oil price crash.The inventors will guard the information to replicate it,
as its too simple, anyone could build it.I don't expect it to go too far as it will be bought up and disappear or the inventors will disappear,that is if its real.
Any patent or patents will be fake and will not give enough information to replicate it because it is too simple as was done with the Tariel Kap applied patents.
An electric car with unlimited range,no batteries to charge up,the supply voltage is independent,you can adjust it to the electric motor needs,
as this amplifies current only,ac power makes it easy to control,it will never be allowed.Lets say that a much smaller device can be made,it could keep a drone
flying 24/7,it has too many military applications,it will never be allowed.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2013, 11:44:01 PM »
Permit me to do a Darth Dansie here.

I watched the clip and could more or less follow it.  They stated in Portuguese pretty what you can imagine they would have said in English just like Hanon posted above.

Notice they spent a few hundred dollars on the roll-up sign.  It's about 20 feet wide also, which would be for a 20' x 10' or 20' x 20' trade show booth.  Then you have two nice looking clean-cut presenters.

The problem is that it looks like there are batteries in the boxes.  It's trivial to up the voltage to be able to drive all of the lights.  As a reminder, batteries store quite a bit of energy and they can output high power levels.  So everything in the clip could be explained by good old batteries.

So it looks to me like you are looking at a semi-professional con.  It's a study in human nature.

MileHigh


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2013, 11:58:54 PM »
I agree with you milehigh could be batteries,the problem is the batteries that you can get now get,are very high power.In the days of the tpu 1997,these kind of batteries did not exist or were in labs so you could rule out batteries to a point.Maybe sterling should contact these guys,I need a good laugh,we got cheated out of laughs on the motor-gen one.

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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2013, 05:52:27 AM »
I agree with you milehigh could be batteries,the problem is the batteries that you can get now get,are very high power.In the days of the tpu 1997,these kind of batteries did not exist or were in labs so you could rule out batteries to a point.Maybe sterling should contact these guys,I need a good laugh,we got cheated out of laughs on the motor-gen one.

Sterling is probably on his way over there as we speak.  (Paid for by someone else, of course)  Possibly, he will get one of these units too so he can really, really get off the grid at his home.  Pretty soon, Sterling will be making so much power (for free ) in his neighborhood that the power companies will ask him to provide them with some.

Bill


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2013, 07:58:07 AM »
@MH
I want some of that Magnetic bathing fluid
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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2013, 01:02:17 PM »
MH said,
"Then you have two nice looking clean-cut presenters."

That's pretty funny, as I was thinking pretty much the opposite. I want to see FE devices presented by people wearing white labcoats over dress shirts with ties, and they should be carrying or have close at hand a clipboard, which should be referred to occasionally. Black hornrimmed safety glasses are optional but highly recommended for credibility.

This casual, open collar, shirttail untucked, hands in pockets style is an affront to my sensibilities.

Here is the test I'd like to see. Get yourself a great big huge Frankenstein three-bladed double-throw knife switch and some heavy cables and clamps. That is the only bit of test kit you need! Take the device around to the place where the building is supplied with power from the national grid, the meter or main distribution box. Get a qualified electrician to put the knife switch in the circuit so that you can select the building to be powered by either the mains, or the Device Under Test.

From this point the test procedure should be obvious to anyone, and also the pass-fail criteria!

Ideally the "building" mentioned should be the claimant's home. After all, he already has an installation going on there, right, complete with a mains disconnect, because he's been powering his house with one for some time.... right?


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Re: Energy from the Ground - Self powered generator by Barbosa and Leal
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2013, 09:38:38 PM »
What good are these things if they DON'T show us how to make one? ??? ???


It's like a guy BRAGGING about his FAST CAR, but how does that help POOR people WITHOUT any electricity? ???


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