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Author Topic: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator  (Read 39406 times)

Offline synchro1

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #30 on: June 29, 2013, 08:19:44 PM »
@Milehigh,


                You amount to nothing more than an over blown windbag! 

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #31 on: June 29, 2013, 08:39:47 PM »
You can allege that but the truth is that with a scope and a multimeter I could dissect that pulse motor and explain exactly how it works to Twinbeard.  Stage by stage, analyzing the timing, checking how well the transistor is functioning, measuring how much power is flowing and where it is flowing, properly measuring the RPM, explaining all of the impedance matching and load issues, explaining exactly what is happening with the main coil voltage and current, explaining what the "Lenz delay" really is, analyzing the power in and the power out and so on and so on.  I could dissect that motor and all the additional transformers and loads from A to Z practically with my eyes closed.

The conclusion:  Nothing special is going on.


Offline synchro1

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #32 on: June 29, 2013, 09:44:19 PM »
That's just just more hot air.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2013, 12:05:26 PM »
So the device is nothing more than hot air? Very disappointing... I had high hopes. Though that would explain why there weren't any significant updates on their webpage since the beginnings of 2012...


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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2013, 07:17:57 PM »
It took more then hot air to nearly cut that guys hand off. Twinbeard ended up with a darlington pair. These guys added a trio of transisters. All these setups are trigger coil bedini's. We need too hear from them about their output ratios. The video shows an illuminated light bank.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2013, 07:17:57 PM »
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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2014, 09:25:55 PM »
Milehigh.  I just read your rant.  Please, show me some things that will make my jaw drop.  Bring you own instrumentation, if you feel it necessary.  Until then, quit swinging your dick around.  It is not attractive.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2014, 12:13:23 AM »
Twinbeard:

I recently estimated I have about 4500 hours of bench experience but I have hung up my scope probes.  How about you do a clip where you make proper measurements and demonstrate total competency with respect to your instruments and your pulse motor circuit?   Demonstrate a complete understanding of all of the nuances including covering all the issues related to driving the transistor properly.  Explain all of the dynamics of the coil including the spike generation.

Suck on that.

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« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2014, 12:13:23 AM »
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Offline twinbeard

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2014, 12:30:39 AM »
As I expected.  Just another troll, which is why I left this forum.  Nothing to contribute but asshattery.  My time is $250/hr, but I do not think I will be selling it to you.  Feel free to replicate what I built, if you can.  I included a full schematic and BOM, which is WAY more than I see from most of the pudwhacking naysayers making this forum have a poor s/n ratio.  The NASA folks, on the other hand,  tend to crowd around when I show up at their events and explain how my months in advance solar flare prediction system works.  I think my time is better spent speaking with enlightened individuals, as opposed to cowtowing to the desires of the foolish.  Now, if you will excuse me, I have people seriously interested in progress to attend to.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2014, 12:36:44 AM »
Also, per this thread, I too had one of those magnets explode, but only a 1/8" diameter model.  Luckily I was not hit.  It was a result of lack of heat dissipation in the rotor housing, which caused the magnet to reach a temperature over its Curie temp.  BOOM.  Be careful with these circuits.  There is a TREMENDOUS amount of angular momentum involved when tuned properly, and this can be quite dangerous.
That said, apart from other interesting effects produced by the rotation, solid state is far better for collecting energy, as you are not using any of it to drive your rotor.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2014, 02:26:27 AM »
Twinbeard:

I looked at your clip again.  You measure 20 microseconds between the small spikes.  You don't make a single attempt to double-check that measurement.  You don't try changing the time base, you don't try changing the trigger level, you don't make any attempt to double check your scope probe connection, you don't try to check if there might be a 20 microsecond clock signal somewhere else in the circuit or perhaps even close to the circuit.  You notice (not you personally, I mean the generic "you") that sometimes on the display you see that spikes are completely missing in a regular pattern, like "missing teeth."  But if your rotating magnet ball is truly doing one revolution every 20 microseconds that should not be happening.  But you don't even question that.  If there are missing spikes then something certainly is amiss, but you don't do anything to investigate that mystery.

Then you state that you tweaked the trigger level and you end up with a stable display but there are still two missing spikes!  You almost certainly are not looking at the speed of he rotating ball magnet.  3,000,000 RPM is a ridiculous speed for just about any size of rotating magnet but you are seemingly numb and unaware as you correctly crunch the garbage-in-garbage-out numbers.

Then you look at the generator output and you see a waveform that looks like icicles in winter.  You don't even make an attempt to reduce your voltage scale, change your time base, adjust your trigger level and get a good waveform triggered from that channel.  You are supposed to know ahead of time that the expected waveform is a near-pure sine wave at that alleged frequency.  It looks like a compound waveform of some sort, perhaps two separate sine waves added together, with "low" and "high" peaks along with some amplitude modulation as the two sine waves beat with each other.  Why is that?  You don't even try to figure it out.

Okay so you have a bunch of transformers in the circuit.  Perhaps that partially explains the seeming total mess on the output waveform, but you don't care.  You put your hand near the multimeter and the current measurement skews.  That's not supposed to happen so it almost certainly means that measurement is junk but you don't care.  Are there any bandwidth issues with your multimeter when is trying to measure the very high-frequency AC current?  I bet that you don't know and you never checked.

To sum it up, your clip is a total disaster.  My best guess is that your setup was self-resonating at 50 KHz while a the same time the little ball magnet was turning at high speed, but at a much much lower speed than the ridiculous speed of 3,000,000 RPM.

If the ball was actually turning at 3,000,000 RPM, chances are that within 10 seconds you would smell burning plastic and the thing would spontaneously self-destruct from the heat due to friction.

So your clip leaves a lot to be desired.  I am giving you the real deal.  I made $8 an hour when I worked at McDonalds in the 1970s.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #39 on: April 25, 2014, 02:26:27 AM »
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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #40 on: April 25, 2014, 02:49:11 AM »
Yeah, watch the videos that came after that one.  My instrumentation got better as well as the device, and my understanding of the processes evolved.  You will find answers to your objections there, because frankly, I have heard all this crap before.  Quite a few very intelligent people well versed in the applicable physics have seen the device in person, and examined it.  Not one has questioned the frequency of operation, particularly after hearing the air ripping around the rotor, which, alas does not come through in the videos due to ambient noise, the fact that I like to play music while making videos to have a background soundtrack, and the lack of a studio quality mic.  Per friction... it atomizes some of the lubricant, but not all.  Eventually the lexan tube the rotor is housed in fails as a fine powder of lexan is produced over time.  This does not happen in all instances, as occasionally the rotor will essentially suspend inside the housing, causing only air friction.  But none of that matters, really, because you opened the conversation by being an asshole.  Learn some manners, and perhaps you might learn something, if that is indeed why you are here.  Time will tell if you a genuine or just another paid shill... a common play from a tired playbook that I am WELL versed in applying countermeasures against.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #41 on: April 25, 2014, 03:13:46 AM »
Do you really think people have to be paid to "debunk" your video?  Your clip was cited by Synchro1 and you inadvertently got dragged into the discussion.  My original comments on your clip are true, as you are basically acknowledging that right now.  You got vulgar hence the detailed response.

I did look at one other video of yours, and you fail to decipher what your scope is telling you.  It's a common "waveform within a waveform" pattern that any experienced person would recognize.

This clip:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIZDu7HFmJI

Note my comments in the previous posting before I even looked at this new clip:

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It looks like a compound waveform of some sort, perhaps two separate sine waves added together, with "low" and "high" peaks along with some amplitude modulation as the two sine waves beat with each other.

See the attached pic from the new clip.  That's essentially what you are looking at the whole time when you play with the base resistor value.  You just have to know how to trigger on it.   In this case the waveform did the triggering on you.  It's a very old clip and for all I know you have gained a lot more experience and knowledge since then.

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Feel free to replicate what I built, if you can.

I haven't worked seriously worked on an electronics bench in 20 years and I can still spin circles around you.  No offense but just keeping in real and let's just turn the page.   I don't even like electronics anymore and for what it's worth there are some people here that can easily spin circles around me.  It's like a Richter scale and I am not on top, that's for sure.

If someone makes a reference to a YouTube clip as being amazing and the clip is a mess, sometimes I will point that out.  I only do it occasionally.  It's for the good of all the readers and specifically it was for Synchro1's benefit.  Sorry it tasted like cod liver oil but Synchro1 himself can be like cod liver oil.  It was not directed personally at you.  Your clip just happened to be the one that was cited.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #42 on: April 25, 2014, 06:25:43 AM »
You absolutely need a second method of measuring the speed of the spinner. The assumption that the spinner is spinning in 1-to-1 synch with the drive pulses is just that: an assumption. Until you get a valid second type of measurement that confirms that you can use the electronic signal, you simply don't know.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #43 on: April 25, 2014, 04:38:44 PM »
@Piratetwinbeard,


I have been deeply inspired by Jerry Bayles and his Chiral Homopolar balance magnet oscillation demonstration. Jerry has determined that longitudinal magnet waves describe a vortex based on a Phi or a Fibonocci series like the plant image below: My current theory is; That this kind of wave vortex, with the poles trailing one another at 180 degrees, spins the neo magnet faster then the applied pulse. My point is, it may be feasible to help predict spin rate with theoretical mathematics, along with our imprecise analog testing techniques. This may act as a "Second Method" for calculating spin rate.


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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #44 on: April 25, 2014, 05:11:06 PM »
"Each Phi spiral is actually a series of pure sine waves. It is a well-known principle in physics that any complex wave shape can be created from the sum of simpler pure sine waves with different frequencies and amplitudes. This principle is called the Fourier principle. The Phi spiral is constructed from a series of harmonics with wavelengths that comply with the Golden Mean version of the Fibonacci sequence":


Jerry Bayles Chiral Homopolar balance magnets oscillate at the Phi resonant hertz as predicted by the bottom graph! Gravityblock noted that Jerry's balance magnets nearly tore off the test bench at 1.618 hertz!

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