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Author Topic: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap  (Read 148994 times)


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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 09:50:46 PM »
I put it under Tesla subject because he mentioned Tesla in the vid.  ;)

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 10:30:58 PM »
That is incredible.  Man, Laser is doing some great work out there.

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 12:30:57 AM »
What is the motor supposed to do ? It looks like it does nothing. And LaserSabre is a practical joker, even though I don't see the point to it, the way I see it it could be a joke, I don't take his stuff seriously because all he wants to do is impress people with implied OU that is nothing more than micro power devices. I don't see the point to the thing. Anyone who sets out with the objective of making something spin for no reason is a bit off the mark in my opinion.

I asked him if any of his devices produced excess energy and he said no, none did.

My question is what is the point to the device and what can it do that is practical ?

I don't see how it has anything to do with Tesla. He should also say what it is that makes it have anything to do with Tesla.

Maybe it is a demonstration of what a 3D printer can do, in that regard is isn't all that impressive.

In my opinion this is exactly what is wrong with the free energy movement, generally speaking.

The device is pointless. It will stop. It proves nothing.

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 01:24:11 AM »
It almost seems like if the air drag was eliminated, it could increase in RPM by itself.
He needs to do two tests.

1: Spin it up to about 1500 RPM with no electronics and time the spin down.

2: Make sure the capacitor is dead. Spin it up to the same RPM and then connect the electronics, then time the spin down.


Make sure the capacitor is dead and to connect the electronics after the initial RPM is reached so that all imparted energy is the same in both tests.



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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 01:24:11 AM »
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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 01:59:35 AM »
What is the motor supposed to do ? It looks like it does nothing. And LaserSabre is a practical joker, even though I don't see the point to it, the way I see it it could be a joke, I don't take his stuff seriously because all he wants to do is impress people with implied OU that is nothing more than micro power devices. I don't see the point to the thing. Anyone who sets out with the objective of making something spin for no reason is a bit off the mark in my opinion.

I asked him if any of his devices produced excess energy and he said no, none did.

My question is what is the point to the device and what can it do that is practical ?

I don't see how it has anything to do with Tesla. He should also say what it is that makes it have anything to do with Tesla.

Maybe it is a demonstration of what a 3D printer can do, in that regard is isn't all that impressive.

In my opinion this is exactly what is wrong with the free energy movement, generally speaking.

The device is pointless. It will stop. It proves nothing.

Cheers

Oooo, kinda harsh after one vid.  We will see.

Have you ever tried to run a pulse motor on a 1000uf cap precharged?  If what he is showing is as shown, it is better than I have seen of anyone. It isnt April 1 today is it? ;)

I wonder if the coils are in series.  :o ;D

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 02:06:46 AM »
It almost seems like if the air drag was eliminated, it could increase in RPM by itself.
He needs to do two tests.

1: Spin it up to about 1500 RPM with no electronics and time the spin down.

2: Make sure the capacitor is dead. Spin it up to the same RPM and then connect the electronics, then time the spin down.


Make sure the capacitor is dead and to connect the electronics after the initial RPM is reached so that all imparted energy is the same in both tests.

Im interested in seeing the circuit.  In the vid, he said "Tesla said.."  but didnt finish. ???

Mags

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 02:12:57 AM »
Im interested in seeing the circuit.  In the vid, he said "Tesla said.."  but didnt finish. ???

Mags

Mags:

Does he not have the circuit published on his website?  I did not check but I believe he said more info over there.  I think this is a great advance that he has done.

Bill

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2013, 03:23:29 AM »
Mags:

Does he not have the circuit published on his website?  I did not check but I believe he said more info over there.  I think this is a great advance that he has done.

Bill

Wasnt last I checked.

He said in the vid it will be up soon. ;)


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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2013, 09:43:35 AM »
well, my 'ossie' motor also runs on one cap  :)

runtime= 172 minutes - cap= 68000 uF, and then stops  :(

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2013, 10:07:14 AM »
For me the most interesting feature of LaserSaber's 3d-printed motor is the fact that it acts as a generator (charging the 1000µF cap) when driven with an air jet (from a drinking straw).
I never saw a Reed switch pulse motor circuit as a "generator circuit". My guess, it works because of the back EMF from the coils (which are connected in series).
It would be less annoying if he showed his circuits straight away, but in the past he published his circuits eventually. It is difficult to act in an altruistic way. It needs practice, because we all are brain washed by the "free market system" and it's demand for "gain" and "competition". But LaserSaber has come a long way already.
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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2013, 11:22:01 AM »
At least this can replicated (mostly exactly, you`d have to wind the coils the same) if you have a 3D printer or send the files off to be printed.

Nice starter base for everyone to compare run times, do experiments etc.

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2013, 01:07:42 PM »
@lasersaber (Posted on your video page.)

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Thank you man for showing cascading coils in action just as I tried to explain to Romero ions ago. Keeping it sweet and simple showing how each coil is a generator and a driver interchanging between each. You can make a 2, 3, 4 decked unit, with more magnets on wheel.
Put two positive scope probes on any of the two coils to see their phasing relation since that cap should have depleted in a few seconds but the total of all the coil resistances is actually slowing down consumption.
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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #13 on: May 26, 2013, 01:17:33 PM »

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well, my 'ossie' motor also runs on one cap  runtime= 172 minutes - cap= 68000 uF, and then stops 


Yes, I have built some of those.  I never was able to get one to run for over a few minutes on a small capacitor.  I wonder how long this new motor would run on a 68000uF cap?



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I never saw a Reed switch pulse motor circuit as a "generator circuit". My guess, it works because of [color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]the back[/color] EMF from the coils (which are connected in series).


That is correct.  The rotor has six magnets. There are 12 coils connected in series.  The coils are connected so that while one coil is pushing the magnet, the next coil is already pulling on the magnet.  So the magnets are all n-n-n-n-n-n and the coils are n-s-n-s-n-s-n-s-n-s-n-s.


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It would be less annoying if he showed his circuits straight away, but in the past he published his circuits eventually. It is difficult to act in an altruistic way. It needs [color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]practice[/color], because we all are brain washed by the "free [color=rgb(0, 0, 255) !important]market[/color] system" and it's demand for "gain" and "competition". But LaserSaber has come a long way already.


I am very committed to sharing freely.  The reason the circuit is not up already is that I am on a vacation with the family.  When I get back, I will post it, plus the 3D files, on to laserhacker.com.


For those who do not get the point of this, let me try to explain.  People had been asking for a DIY video on the motor and crystal cell featured on my live video stream.  I realized that the best way to do this would be 3D printing.  I decided to start with the motor first.  I put everything I have learned to date into making the motor run on as little current as possible.  Next I will do the 3D printed crystal cell.  Together this will make a combo that should run for years.  The motor has really impressed me.  Now I am looking at trying to get it to run longer on a 1000uF cap.  By using some techniques I learned on my Muller motor I may be able to improve the run-time greatly.  The end goal for me (besides making a self runner which is probably impossible but I will try relentlessly anyway) will be a new kind of battery system.  It would be like an electrical fly wheel.  At a much larger scale, you could spin one of these up with solar or wind energy and then pull from it later at night.


I am already working on some improvements, see attached image.

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Re: Has anyone seen Lasersabers new motor runs on 1000uf cap
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2013, 04:08:33 PM »
Overcoming friction in a good bearing, like those in hard drives or CD drives requires
almost no power. A large capacitor should last a long time.

To be confident that there is something here, we need figures for power in and power
out to a load.

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