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Author Topic: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?  (Read 86788 times)

profitis

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no,no,no conrad.mr smith is(or was,theres rumours he was murdered)a physicist reviewing all of these circuits that you guys were building over the years including mr bedini etc and trying to find a rational explanation.any truly overunity device has to take in ambient heat and concentrate it.there is no other source of energy that would make it overunity by textbook definition.he wasnt a builder of these things,just an analyser/observer/physicist.you have to circumvent the 2nd law thermodynamics to get your overunity because you are not going to skip around the 1st law of thermodynamics,believe me.you will notice mr bedini(the overlord of electromagneto overunity) himself discuss the 2nd law thermodynamics and its circumvention.you must educate yourselves on whats going on in the fundamental part of your circuits,the core.

markdansie

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Shame Mr Bedini never was able to successfully demonstrate over unity
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profitis

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quite possibly true @markdansie,a lot depends on the power measurement skills of the skeptic especially when it comes to pulsed current,what has he non-demonstrated in the backdoors though?we might be yet surprised.lets see if mrs ainslie can do better in a few days time.

markdansie

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I would never rely on the skills of the skeptics, but I rely on the skills of highly qualified engineers and scientists with experience in pulsed currents. I suggest you read Mark E comments at free energy news and or past forums here.....I think TK is the resident expert on Rosemary.
PS  The question you should be asking is why will it work with a battery and not with a cap???????
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profitis

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@markdansie,,it wont work with a single power source because now you have to draw from AND recharge the source at the same time or at microsecond intervals,it will screw the mechanism up.imagine i plugged my celfone into the charger evry 1/10th of a second and discharged it evry 1/10th of a second,it would screw-hysterisis the physical crystalline reactants in the bat to the point of detaching from the electrodes.your everyday bats are not designed for this.same applies for a cap unless the charging current is precisely the same volts and amps and pulse-time as its discharge otherwise hectic hysterisis sets in.they must use two bats or two caps.one 4 power source and one 4 recharge.i think steorn used 2 bats if im not mistaken.

profitis

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a ordinary dielectric cap also has a rapidly falling voltage when it begins to discharge,might be non-conducive to a stable overunity circuit,a pseudoredoxcap would be far better but, again,they must use 2 of these,not 1.remember what happened to the battery of the south african guys with the self-looped motor?they was el-stupido.

TinselKoala

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Does it really?

I've mentioned "Altoid" before but I suppose I now have to post a link to one of its demonstrations. It's a single-mosfet oscillator based on Ainslie's NERD circuit, with the NERD's long wire inductances replaced by small discrete inductors. This circuit was designed by .99 from a suggestion I made, then I built it according to his schematic, and added an enhancement or two of my own. It produces the same _negative mean power product_ from its waveforms as does Ainslie's "NERD" circuit that she might be demonstrating in a few days; it runs a load showing bidirectional current flow through the load, it runs for a significant time period, making the negative power product waveforms all the while.... and it runs solely on its own 2-Farad capacitor pack (of "ordinary dielectric" capacitors). Yet.... it still runs down and stops.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZaPnj1Ox4Y

(And you are indeed mistaken about Steorn. They used one battery per Orbo, in their failed Waterways demo, claimed that it would be recharged by the circuit, and never actually managed to show it recharging or even receiving an attempted charge. I, however, did charge external batteries and caps, using my Orbette based on their incomplete circuit.)

TinselKoala

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Better watch out, Mark. You are on Ainslie's hit-list already, simply for not snapping to her demands.

Here's an example of Ainslie's current madness, and a statement of her clear intention to weasel out of doing any demonstration.

First, she accuses me, entirely without evidence, of some ridiculous feat of hacking, when all I had to do was to download and reproduce at normal size the two publicly-posted photos from the PESN page here:
http://pesn.com/2013/05/22/9602322_Rosemary-Ainslie_Planning_Public-Demo_of_her_Free-Energy-Circuit_June-1/
This alone should show what a paranoid, ignorant and mendacious person she is.
"Filed a full report with the appropriate departments". HOOT! You cannot make this stuff up. I'll bet the "appropriate departments" will be visiting her with a butterfly net and a strait jacket pretty soon.

Second, she clearly states that she will NOT be doing any demonstration on June 1, unless she can find some "academic" to support or endorse her position. 

How's THAT for wriggling?

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Either email me at 'ainslie@mweb.co.za' to state your support for their attendance - or write to them directly through the office of the Dean of Engineering - Professor Petersen - ebe-faculty@uct.ac.za  All efforts to advance this demonstration will be greatly appreciated. 


I'm about to ask Petersen to support this noble cause, but I'm not certain if I should include a link to Ainslie's blogsite or warn him of TK (Brüan Litelle). Would my mail even make it through their spam filter if I mention Zipons and Strapons? So many questions...

profitis

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@tk..does the altoid circuit keep the led flashing longer than if you just hooked the cap to the led?you managed to charge external bats with the orbette circuit? You mean you managed to power with one bat and charge another?tell me something,ive got a question related to overunity but offtopic:is it possible to partialy bias/rectify a.c. current(equal magnitude both directions) into one direction using just a magnet?do you know?perhaps tilting the magnet at certain angle over a coil?
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TinselKoala

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@tk..does the altoid circuit keep the led flashing longer than if you just hooked the cap to the led?
That depends on how you "hook up" the LED: the cap is charged to 5 or 5.5 volts initially so some kind of dropping circuitry would have to be used... but yes. But allow me to rephrase your question slightly. "Does the altoid circuit put out the same total light energy as a direct hookup of the LED to the capacitor would?" And the answer to that is "no, it puts out less", because some power is dissipated in the circuit elements.
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you managed to charge external bats with the orbette circuit? You mean you managed to power with one bat and charge another?
Yes. I've removed most of my Orbette videos from YT, but here's one that is still up:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi_FJwpPrQk
It's not hard to do. Here's the same sort of thing with the Ainslie "Quantum" circuit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDcC7bCI8EM


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tell me something,ive got a question related to overunity but offtopic:is it possible to partialy bias/rectify a.c. current(equal magnitude both directions) into one direction using just a magnet?do you know?perhaps tilting the magnet at certain angle over a coil?
I don't know. Probably it is, with the right coil and frequency combination. I don't know if you can get full rectification, but it should be possible to use a magnet to bias a coil core, so that current in one direction encounters a different total impedance value than current in the other direction would.
Some of the coils that I pull out of CRT-based TV chassis do have biasing magnets attached to them; I don't know why exactly but maybe some directional effect is the reason. I do know that these coils work especially well in JouleThief circuits, with the addition of a "primary" wrapped around the outside of them.
Also, for high currents, Tesla used magnets in various places around spark gaps and even actually built into the electrodes of spark gaps. This produced more rapid quenching, probably due to half-wave rectification and cut-off of the currents thru the gap. I think.

FatBird

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Tell me if I am wrong, but here is why I'm NOT excited over this.

The best Cold Fusion device still has to BOIL WATER TO MAKE steam.
Then the STEAM has to drive a High Speed TURBINE.
Then the Spinning Turbine Shaft has to drive a GENERATOR (with a Gear Reduction TRANSMISSION) to make Electricity.

It seems A LOT BETTER if we can find a device that makes electricity DIRECTLY, WITHOUT Boiling Water, Steam, Turbine, Transmission, and Generator.
Click on the Link below to see such a device:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHswoNpc0Tk
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profitis

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thanks tk,the reason why i ask is because im wondering if the dark current/noise rectification(without power source) on a wire with a biasing magnetic field passing thru it might be larger than the dark current of a typical diode.as you know the dark currents of typical pn diodes are tiny(fractions of a microamp).

markdansie

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Hi Profitis,
here is a bone or two for you to play with.
1. Take a high spin nuclear material (the type they use from Scanners) and place it in a magnetic field.
Then place a piezoelectric material onto that. What will happen?
It will run for ever but it is not free energy.
2. Take two material and using a deposition method place them on say a silicon wafer so they form small over lapping links (size of a match head.  If you choose the right materials they will act as micro thermocouples and put out power in an ambient environment? Why ?
3. I am two generous with the clues above.....so this one is a challenge...how can you manufacture an electret put out a decent amount of power?


I hope these all serve as a brain teaser for you
Kind Regards
 

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Hi Profitis,
here is a bone or two for you to play with.
1. Take a high spin nuclear material (the type they use from Scanners) and place it in a magnetic field.
Then place a piezoelectric material onto that. What will happen?
It will run for ever but it is not free energy.
2. Take two material and using a deposition method place them on say a silicon wafer so they form small over lapping links (size of a match head.  If you choose the right materials they will act as micro thermocouples and put out power in an ambient environment? Why ?
3. I am two generous with the clues above.....so this one is a challenge...how can you manufacture an electret put out a decent amount of power?


I hope these all serve as a brain teaser for you
Kind Regards

Mark:

Americium?

I have read of others using this for energy generation.  It was obtained from smoke detectors.

Bill