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Author Topic: Joseph Newman Motor  (Read 19623 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2013, 10:28:15 PM »
When my one magnet, no bearing Bedini is running, I discovered that when carrying another of those big neos across the room, I could feel the pulses from the main rotor easily...and I was at least 6 feet away from the running device. 

I have experienced this also. Mine are 1/2x1/2 with 1/8 in hole diametric tube. And spheres also tend to have a very strong field at a distance. ;)

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2013, 10:28:15 PM »

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2013, 10:43:18 PM »
TS:

I am more than happy to debate with you but the challenge for you is to simply not make ad hominem attacks.  I honestly view it as a cop out on your part in the sense that you can't make a technical rebuttal to my points so the only place for you to go is to make ad homenim attacks.  I can assure you that I have no intention of making ad homenim attacks against you.

The great thing about a forum is that people can read differing opinions and do some follow up research on their own if they want and arrive and their own conclusions.  Now if somebody gets a bicycle wheel and is down in their basement workshop for weeks on end and gets nowhere then they might not mind and have fun doing it.  On the other hand some people may be very annoyed that they listened to you.  On the other hand some people might be very happy that they listened to me.

The essence of Lidmotor's clip is clearly stated by him in the clip.  He says the magnets act like mechanical gears and transmit power.  And indeed you can imagine measuring the resistance torque that the main rotating magnet experiences from driving the satellite magnets as the system runs.  As you add satellite magnets the resistance torque on the the driving magnet increases.  It's just "invisible magnetic gears" at play, it's all mechanical.

"Not bright," another reference to drugs, "inferiority complex," "shill" are all nonsense and unacceptable comments by you.

So I am asking you right now TechStuf, can we debate from this point on without ad hominem attacks?

This attached graphic is from Wikipedia and the caption for the graphic says, "Paul Graham's Hierarchy of Disagreement lists ad hominem as the second worst type of argument in a disagreement."

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2013, 10:52:55 PM »
 
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And spheres also tend to have a very strong field at a distance. (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

They do indeed!  Kind of like our sun which is amidst switching poles...Or the earth, which is attempting the same as we speak.  ???
 
http://www.space.com/22271-sun-magnetic-field-flip.html
 
http://www.zengardner.com/the-shift-is-on-magnetic-north-pole-now-racing-a-mile-a-day/
 
 
Interesting times....
 
 
 
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« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2013, 11:20:59 PM »
MileHigh. 
 
It is apparent that you've managed to get under my skin.  I readily admit it.  (Nice rainbow food pyramid on psychological steroids btw) But lighten up and try and see things from another's viewpoint once in a while.  You rant on with shallow assertions, thick with condescension and gross assumption.  Your level of prejudice without lifting a finger to ascertain facts for yourself impinges upon the borders of narcissism.
 
And when someone employs a little creativity in an attempt to pry you lose momentarily from your self indoctrinations, you respond with the advocation that he should imagine transporting himself to the seventies and having intercourse with an actress in the bathroom on a transatlantic airline flight.
 
If that is what a little annoying feedback in response to your annoying and continual blanket judgments unleashes, then....well, suffice it to say that I, for one, certainly wish to dig no deeper.
 
Let us agree to disagree then.  It will be no trouble at all for me to skip over your posts, and perhaps you can do the same.  I assure you, I am finished running roughshod over your honor.  You gave me no leave to treat you familiar.
 
And as you jet set high above the forum, dropping care packages of prepackaged wisdom, their small parachutes flailing above them as they hurtle down from above...
 
I wish you nothing but (in the immortal words of robin 'Leach') champagne wishes and caviar dreams.
 
Officially, I am done debasing myself by making comments at your expense, as it is obvious that someone in your parsimonious condition will not afford them.  Though you are certainly free to continue your comments at the expense of those hapless enough to follow them.
 
 
TS
 
 


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« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 12:06:23 AM »
TS:

Have you ever heard of the Mile High Club?

I am just stating the truth as I see it based on my background and experience and common sense.  I think that you are being too sensitive and your perception is too negative.  For example, you allege that I make shallow assertions. I disagree.  On the other hand in my opinion you make unsubstantiated assertions with no data to back them up.  You know the old saying, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof."  When I contribute to a thread it helps give the debate some balance.

The backdrop to all of this is the number of times good intentioned people have been hoodwinked by people like Mike Brady and Mylow and the list is very long.  I am not equating you with people like this at all.  We are both just debating ideas on a forum.  But when you look at a case like the Mylow case I once calculated that the opportunity cost for that fiasco when you factor in materials and time was about a million dollars.  It sounds fantastical but it's true.

So we need healthy debate.  If you are going to make a claim that a given process is an over unity process then backing it up with a rational argument and data would be ideal.  Saying "Just believe me because I said so" is problematic.  Often people make claims and they can simply be rebutted with common sense.  Or look at the case of the user Itsu and his excellent YouTube clips where he did the due diligence and actually tested many of the Kapanadze related claims and they all showed negative results.

In a way, "shouting" "Free Energy!" is almost like shouting out "Fire!" in a crowded theater.  Instead of shouting we just need reasoned debate and indeed, sometimes we need to agree to disagree.  Part of the dynamic is to not just throw science out the window and steamroll your way though.  For example, there are countless examples of people making clips of circuits in action, they could be pulse motors, or some kind of transformer setup or whatever, and they claim that the circuit shows over unity.  But invariably, upon closer inspection, it turns out not to be the case.  What you want to do in that case is turn lemons into lemonade, and turn that into a learning experience for the tester and for the people following on the forum.

Sometimes I just want to share my views. I am very very good at analyzing free energy propositions and people's clips and stuff like that.  I have just always had a certain knack at doing that.  I know sometimes it upsets people, but I am doing my best to state the truth as I see it.

My advice is if we get in a debate and even if we lock horns, let's keep it to discussing the technical aspects of the issue at hand, or agree to disagree if need be.  That's supposed to be fun.

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2013, 12:06:23 AM »
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« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2013, 12:24:34 AM »
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I am very very good at analyzing free energy propositions and people's clips and stuff like that.

Which is very very debatable. 
 
One more "very" and you'd have had me rethinking my retraction of implying you were narcissistic.  ::)
 
You're not narcissistic at all.
 
How about this, I simply won't respond to your posts anymore, if perhaps you will muster the self control to do the same.
 
In gentlemanly fashion, I will even allow you to go first.....
 
 
 
TS
 
 

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2013, 12:26:07 AM »
Mags and Tech:

It is good to know that others have experienced the same thing.  I think this could be useful with a little thought and some engineering.  Maybe not.

Bill

PS  My mags are 1" dia X 2" long. (Same ID, 1/8")  Very strong!

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« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2013, 06:01:34 AM »
 
The beauty of it is that you sure won't waste much money to find out if I was lying or telling you the truth.  Once you place the LED assembly at the right height, the wheel will produce energy and spin as long, sometimes longer than when winding down on it's own.
 
This fact alone, speaks volumes. 
 
 
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« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2013, 06:39:16 AM »
TS:

I've paid my dues and have a track record.  So yes I actually can state that I am very very good at looking at this stuff.  I've done it for several years.  Sometimes I also just talk tech for fun and hopefully to educate anyone that's interested.  I recently discussed how just the position of a magnet or the existence of a cavitation bubble can represent potential energy, as an example.  I am not interested in repeating myself either.  Like I gave my view of the bicycle wheel and the points have been made.  There have been no rebuttals so you move on.  What really interests me is the pros like Steorn and other big fish.  There is just no big story like that happening these days.

What I can do is just comment without directly addressing you if that makes sense to you.  No Orwellian muzzling but just making your points and moving on is perfectly fine with me.  It takes at least two parties to participate in a debate - or you can just make your points and move on.

From the pyramid:  "Counter argument:  Contradicts and then backs it up with reasoning and/or supporting evidence."  That's the hope.

Permit me to throw a question your way, to be honest it's a kind of a test to see how comfortable and literate you are when you discuss energy and related stuff.

The question:  You are standing in your bedroom and you drop a book on the hard wood floor.  Please discuss the energy dynamics of what transpires the moment you let go of the book.  I mean _all_ of the energy dynamics, go as far as you want and try to leave no details out.

It's a serious question so as a preemptive request, please don't scoff at it or criticize it or make fun of it.  I am very curious to hear your answer. 

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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2013, 07:02:41 AM »
Yep this will be a neat project to explore. The distance these things reach, Im going to try smaller and closer. Like make a rack that allows infinite placement, even try upper and lower levels and have the driver as the nucleus. lol. Then for each of the satellite led's, use a tiny solar panel and they charge the driver supply. Or just put more coils out there for recharge and have lights. I dunno. Reeds can be used on satellite coils for coil shorting and getting a lot more light from the leds. It can go a million ways. ;)

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« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2013, 09:12:52 PM »
 
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even try upper and lower levels and have the driver as the nucleus. lol.

lol?  no lol.....it's a great idea! 
 
And things get 'real' interesting the closer you get.....like, put the 'satellite' magnet into a see through container and run the wheel slow, near, far...SEE what's happening at different speeds until the "aha" moments start stacking on each other.
 
I wasn't even close to kidding when I said that:
 
Howard Johnson
 
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Should have shared the same train. 

 
 
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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2016, 03:54:41 PM »
Hi, I am reading the Tesla switch pdf from Panacea and they describe a Ts switching system that is mechanically rotated by a Newman motor.
They write that its power consumption is very low, and the torque is pretty good.

Have someone or anyone built it, and know and can affirm that the Newman have good torque and that is doesn't draw much energy?


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Re: Joseph Newman Motor
« Reply #27 on: December 05, 2016, 11:00:40 PM »
Just lost my whole post , the jist was you can't have magnetic fields working next to each other,

the satilites work because their far enough away
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