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Author Topic: Electricity from Neo Magnets and Bismuth - A Daniel Dingel Secret released  (Read 17560 times)

Offline e2matrix

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This quote is from : http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=928   which I suggest everyone look at as new information that was released after Daniels death may have not been picked up here before.  I may be wrong but as far as I know this has not been discussed regarding the info below:
"the NEODYMIUM MAGNETS + BISMUTH make up the core…
 They thought (hoped) that he’d taken his secrets to the grave with him…

 Another very big clue is that it also generates electricity  … You put 12v of electricity into the unit and it disassociates the water molecules and gives out the HHO gas… but, if you disconnect it from the car battery, it then gives out electricity… so it’s a two way reactor.

Daniel told me that by connecting one of these units to an inverter, to step up the output voltage, and simply filling it up with water, it would then power a small fridge or TV for several months, he said approximately three to four months… He didn’t say, but I presume that after that time you just had to fill it up with some more water again…

With the unit out of the car and sat on the ground with water in it he had an electric car lamp (12v) and when he connected it to the unit and put one connection on a probe and put it inside and touched it on the main flat honeycomb mesh inside of the unit the lamp lit.

And the unit was definitely running on pure tap water as he filled it from the mains water supply, and I even put my finger in and tasted it, just to make 100% sure… and it was ordinary pure tap water with no electrolyte."


I've come across other devices that claim to make electricity which involve using Bismuth.  Bismuth is one of the few strongly diamagnetic metals - meaning it is repelled from a magnet rather than attracted to one like iron or ferrite containing metals.   
Does anyone have any info on what might be needed to build a Bismuth energy cell beside bismuth, neodymium magnets and probably water?   I will be looking into this further. 




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This quote is from : http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=928   which I suggest everyone look at as new information that was released after Daniels death may have not been picked up here before.  I may be wrong but as far as I know this has not been discussed regarding the info below:
"the NEODYMIUM MAGNETS + BISMUTH make up the core…
 They thought (hoped) that he’d taken his secrets to the grave with him…

 Another very big clue is that it also generates electricity  … You put 12v of electricity into the unit and it disassociates the water molecules and gives out the HHO gas… but, if you disconnect it from the car battery, it then gives out electricity… so it’s a two way reactor.

Daniel told me that by connecting one of these units to an inverter, to step up the output voltage, and simply filling it up with water, it would then power a small fridge or TV for several months, he said approximately three to four months… He didn’t say, but I presume that after that time you just had to fill it up with some more water again…

With the unit out of the car and sat on the ground with water in it he had an electric car lamp (12v) and when he connected it to the unit and put one connection on a probe and put it inside and touched it on the main flat honeycomb mesh inside of the unit the lamp lit.

And the unit was definitely running on pure tap water as he filled it from the mains water supply, and I even put my finger in and tasted it, just to make 100% sure… and it was ordinary pure tap water with no electrolyte."


I've come across other devices that claim to make electricity which involve using Bismuth.  Bismuth is one of the few strongly diamagnetic metals - meaning it is repelled from a magnet rather than attracted to one like iron or ferrite containing metals.   
Does anyone have any info on what might be needed to build a Bismuth energy cell beside bismuth, neodymium magnets and probably water?   I will be looking into this further.


Wow this is something new  :)


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I do not know about this process but I do know about the graphene nitride method for breaking water molecules to extract the hydrogen using sunlight, instead of electricity. makes me wonder what could be done to use that substance instead for breaking it using minute amounts of electricity.

anyone who has not been watching this guys videos, really should, and maybe ask him some of these questions

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj-nuTSjCBc

I know I am going to watch and archive every video he has, and am discussing my ideas with him  :)

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Nice find!   Thanks for the info on that.    As I've got a chemistry background I can see it as being something not that hard to do although I don't have some  of the lab equipment like magnetic stirrers or a centrifuge.   If there was a market for this stuff you could certainly make some money making your own.  I did verify an online company selling 10 grams for 845 Euros!   (That's about 1,109 U.S. dollars for about 1/3 ounce - more than the cost of gold! ).    I believe he said it cost him about 50 pence to make his 10 grams and 50 pence = 77 cents.  Quite a profit margin some company is making there.   I wonder how much hydrogen per minute can be generated with this as a catalyst?   


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This quote is from : http://fuel-efficient-vehicles.org/energy-news/?page_id=928   which I suggest everyone look at as new information that was released after Daniels death may have not been picked up here before.  I may be wrong but as far as I know this has not been discussed regarding the info below:
"the NEODYMIUM MAGNETS + BISMUTH make up the core…
 They thought (hoped) that he’d taken his secrets to the grave with him…

 Another very big clue is that it also generates electricity  … You put 12v of electricity into the unit and it disassociates the water molecules and gives out the HHO gas… but, if you disconnect it from the car battery, it then gives out electricity… so it’s a two way reactor.

Daniel told me that by connecting one of these units to an inverter, to step up the output voltage, and simply filling it up with water, it would then power a small fridge or TV for several months, he said approximately three to four months… He didn’t say, but I presume that after that time you just had to fill it up with some more water again…

With the unit out of the car and sat on the ground with water in it he had an electric car lamp (12v) and when he connected it to the unit and put one connection on a probe and put it inside and touched it on the main flat honeycomb mesh inside of the unit the lamp lit.

And the unit was definitely running on pure tap water as he filled it from the mains water supply, and I even put my finger in and tasted it, just to make 100% sure… and it was ordinary pure tap water with no electrolyte."


I've come across other devices that claim to make electricity which involve using Bismuth.  Bismuth is one of the few strongly diamagnetic metals - meaning it is repelled from a magnet rather than attracted to one like iron or ferrite containing metals.   
Does anyone have any info on what might be needed to build a Bismuth energy cell beside bismuth, neodymium magnets and probably water?   I will be looking into this further.


Its another NMR device using nuclear spin resonance.  Basically its a "cold fusion" device.  The Bismuth is the actual source of energy because it actually undergoes dissociation or transmutation.  Bismuth has a long history in use for radioactive experiments  with symbol Bi and atomic number 83. Bismuth has long been considered as the element with the highest atomic mass that is stable. However, it was recently discovered to be slightly radioactive. (wiki)


 The Bismuth "matter" is partially converted to Energy which comprises  mostly of  alpha, beta which causes plain water to dissociate to HHO.  The neo magnets are required  to give the required magnetic spin bias on the Bismuth because at least 1 Tesla is required  but unlike NMR we don't need to be looking for procession and relaxation only dissociation of matter.  The honeycomb structure provides the largest surface area to the water which is subject to the short term radiation as the Bismuth is shifted to an Isotope.  So we are not in Kansas any more and this releases huge amounts of energy! 


 (lots of patents and threads here relating to this very issue including Coleman and Rossi reactor)


ED and this one too it works exactly the same;


ERR Fluxgenerator selfrunning 3 KW Free Energy generator


I knew i had seen this before this is Dingle technology!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFqwY8q-5ZE

"We have three plates here... [with] a solid piece of aluminium on one side, [followed by] a sheet of bismuth, [followed by] another aluminium plate with six cut-outs; you've got the coils in there; then you put another bismuth, another plate of coils on top of that, then another bismuth, then another solid plate, then you've got a panel. When we activate these with our activator, which causes the frequencies in these plates with alternating frequency, they produce electrons by agitating the bismuth and aluminium."


It has occurred to me that the use of aluminium sheeting is used to enclose the "reactor core" from radiation leakage.  Most of the energy released at low power levels is alpha and beta both of which can be contained using aluminium sheets so this gives me the idea that the aluminium does not form part of the nuclear precess itself only part of the construction.  At very high power levels several things become a serious problem including release of gamma, heat and ionised breakdown of the coils due to the air contamination.  In the Philippines this ERR Fluxgenerator design of large scale was built in the basement into concrete chambers for radiation shielding AND in controlled vacuum.  So the Dingle cell reactor  addresses several of these problems as the cell is covered in water to produce the hydrogen acts as a self cooling reactor instead of using coils to collect the beta decay overcomes  ionised coil breakdown.

Anyway, once the fusion device is started by applying two RF frequencies to the honeycomb structure maybe only 10's of watts required then large amount of Hydrogen and Oxygen comes flooding out of the collector equal to that generated using in excess of 50 Kw of power in conventional electrolysis  where only the hydrogen is used to run the engine.  The RF frequencies  are variable and subject to the amount of core bismuth material plus the background  Earth magnetic field at that particular LOCATION.  A self calibrating sweep and seek oscillators   are required to find the bismuth procession nuclear spin to start the reaction and convert MASS to ENERGY.


 This means he has available perhaps in excess of 100 litres of min of hydrogen.  The oxygen requirements are simply pulled via the normal air. He probably stores some hydrogen for short term boost loading to aid in acceleration. The rest is on demand via the reactor.  The fusion cell is capable of making electricity directly using collector coils over the honey comb structure to capture the electron beta decay. A conventional hydrogen fuel cell can of course convert Hydrogen to electricity   However this would appear to be vastly inferior to the conversion of water to hydrogen as the action of dissociation water is a more direct process.


When the 12v RF driver is removed the level of radiation decay is still more than high enough to make the reactor into a "battery". The water in the cell remains highly charged - ionised to a degree where there is sufficient current can be drawn through the water to light a lamp.  The fact it can power a small device for months gives us an idea of the half lifes involved in the isotope shifting. It is important to realise that without the RF drivers creating the spin resonance the power of the device probably drops from > 20Kw to 200 watts of decay background within seconds.

In normal use only water is consumed and unlike conventional electrolysis pure water is highly preferred  to prevent cell contamination   Because the water is used basically only as a proxy of energy conversion and a small amount of bismuth because eventually due to decay it will need to be replaced although i would think it could last the lifetime of the car perhaps 15-20 years.   Of course there are many safety aspects here but known that can be addressed considering the energy advantages. Its a cold fusion device not hot fusion.  Lead plates from old car battery should provide adequate shielding.  For decades we have been told that nuclear energy is ONLY for the big boys to play with but there are safe forms that can be used for small power systems. Remember it took 30 years for the microwave oven to become acceptable and affordable but no one gives it a second thought today and the "nasty stuff" is all shielded in a metal box with safety devices.


As the two Bismuth  technologies are clearly highly linked its easy to understand why there was never public released versions. Its in essence a nuclear device and the authorities will never allow it on safety grounds alone. Greed and corruption of free energy will seal its fate.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2013, 11:07:07 AM by bolt »

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Offline e2matrix

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Hi bolt,  Good to see you around again.   That's exactly the device (in the youtube you listed) that I mentioned above and was thinking about but I couldn't recall what it was called or the guys that built it.   Thanks for that and also the great info on bismuth which I was not aware of.  I've come across yet some other devices using it but alas the fuzzy old memory doesn't recall the other ones yet.   I've got some bismuth and will be trying some experiments.   The last I recall (IIRC) you were working on running a generator with HHO.   How has that been going?  Cheers

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I still got the HHO generator i learnt a lot about making the software etc for spark blanking etc but the results for looping i could not make it run for more than a few seconds on pure HHO...not enough capacity from my 21 plate cell.  Anyways,  I found the best and by far the most economical thing to do with these gasoline gensets is convert to Nat gas then use HHO injection improves economy by about another 20%-25%.  Its now very competitive  with grid prices per kWh.


So i have this genset available for my "end-of-the-world"  emergency back up system:)


Regarding this bismuth energy i knew i seen this before it took me a while to think of the device but there are many other materials than can be used. I seen mention in other free energy devices of lithium, cadmium, calcium, iron, cobalt, zinc, copper,  etc but its interesting that bismuth having atomic number 83 is one heavier than lead and one less than polonium.  They all seemingly are NMR sensitive enough to convert to isotopes and release huge amounts of energy.  It also now looks like Kapaandze is most likely to use atomic device and so is the TPU. If so Steven mark used copper and converted that to an isotope. You need 2 RF frequencies, One shifts the procession spin to 45 degrees in the X plane and the other has to bang it back as fast as possible 45 degrees Y plane  without relaxation causes it to funnel into a spin vortex. This is why pretty much all these devices have control coils in X  and Y planes. Z plane can be substituted for the local powerful magnetic field using neo magnets.


Remember also Steven Mark said "you will get something out of it with one correct frequency  but you will raise hell Mary if you get both correct" at the right amplitude in the presence of the required magnetic field of least 1 Tesla.


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Thanks for the additional info.   I guess we were thinking alike on generators.  I got a natural gas conversion kit for my generator too.  I still have some setup work to do on it but I plan on setting it up inside the garage with piping to the outside for a full size car muffler to make it quiet.  I'll build a small 'dog house' around the muffler with bare fiberglass insulation inside and expect it to be almost completely silent with that setup to anyone not very close by.    One thing I haven't checked into in regards to that is whether NG in this area is independent of any need for electricity (pumps?) to get it to residences.   I would guess the natural gas suppliers though probably have their own NG gensets to keep power going in case of grid failure.   Probably answered my own question on that ;)   

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Nice find!   Thanks for the info on that.    As I've got a chemistry background I can see it as being something not that hard to do although I don't have some  of the lab equipment like magnetic stirrers or a centrifuge.   If there was a market for this stuff you could certainly make some money making your own.  I did verify an online company selling 10 grams for 845 Euros!   (That's about 1,109 U.S. dollars for about 1/3 ounce - more than the cost of gold! ).    I believe he said it cost him about 50 pence to make his 10 grams and 50 pence = 77 cents.  Quite a profit margin some company is making there.   I wonder how much hydrogen per minute can be generated with this as a catalyst?

you should look around at his videos, I know he has at least one that shows how to make a magnetic stirrer on the cheap. I have a bunch of hard drives I tore apart for the magnets of course, and started leaving the circuit and base in tact, so now I have about 12 motors that just hooking up a PC powersupply gives me a working 7200RPM motor, and I am betting that would work easily for a small centrifuge and decent size stirrer :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pW8ah9tBiWQ

I do not mean to keep posting his videos, but these are some of the best howto videos I have seen so far on the net period, I am definitely going to grab them all and get a copy of his book on graphene just for reference, at the very least. :) I will look around and see if I can find his one for a centrifuge and post it too, as well as I am going to build a 555 timer circuit to control my PC powersupply to keep the motor spinning indefinitely on some of my hard drive motors (some spin for a short time stop then spin again doing this cycle indefinitely with out being tampered with, while others will spin for well over a minute then stop and you have to shut the power off and on to restart it, so that is what the 555 timer is going to be for, to run a relay that disconnects the power about once every minute :) )

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