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Author Topic: Joule Thief need someone to try something .  (Read 14871 times)

Offline Rodeown

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Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« on: March 02, 2013, 01:12:10 AM »
 :D  Hello Overunity community!

Hi I have got interested in energy stuff recently, I am not good at circuits or soldering but dabble here and there.

I have read so much stuff on "Free Energy" etc in the last few months and the Joule Thief circuits looked interesting and seemed to have potential and seemed less dangerous than the Kapenadze circuits i was also interested in (dont fancy shocking myself with those).

Anyway i started out dismantling a couple of the disposable cameras and made a Low energy 11w bulb powered of a AAA battery using one of those cameras.

The other camera i could not get working so i desoldered the transformer and some parts and also took the torroid off the 11watt low energy bulb circuit board to use in the future for a joule thief.
I the made a joule thief using the mini transformer and it worked really well, i connected one pin of the primary to the right pin on the secondary for the Battery + connection and then used the left on the primary through the 1k resistor to the transitor, a 2n2222 and the the middle of the secondry was my connection to the collector on the transistor, the third pin i didnt use..... interestingly when it was running if i touched the third pin with my finger it stopped illuminating the leds.

Anyway i wanted a practical application for a joule thief and I use those little 3 LED "stickon lights" for night time so i dont turn the main light on and wake the wife up if i need to get up in the night, I go through quite a few batteries on those so i decided it was time to convert one of them.

Well a day ago I wound my first home made coil on the Torroid from the 11w Low voltage circuit, it worked really brightly, actually brighter than the 3 LEDs did with 3 batteries! and now it use only one hee hee  but during testing and after i was playing with some magnets (little ones from Geomag sets) and found that if i put one on the torroidcoil the LEDs went out, the reason i did this was because I had seen a video of some one using magnets to restrict flow through a torroid with a magnet.

Today I decided to make a new Joule Thief circuit to play with, but i had no Torroids.... so i went looking through my electronic scrap boards and found a computer motherboard that had some nice looking torroids on them with copper coils on them..... so after some desoldering i had a few to play with..... now here comes the interesting part, these ones are not black/grey they are a green colour with blue on one side, so i unwound the copper off them and used a couple of telephone wires to wind the torroid (8 winds, 2 colours) made a circuit up using my crocodile prototype leads and it actually was really bright, infact much brighter than the "Stickon Light" to connect the battery i just used a couple of the Geomag magnets to stick the croc clips to +/- and as i moved the wires the + croc clip magnified itself to the center connection croc, same crocclip wire and the leds shone brighter?????     I was puzzled as to what was happening so i changed the lead thinking it was high resistance but it made no difference. So i just took the lead out and connected it with out the lead and it was brighter, I presume this is just DC loss down the cables????

Also i got the Geomag magnets and stuck them to the Torroid expecting the lights to go out but there was NO difference in the brightness of the LEDs???   
I tried different positions but i cant get them to go out on the (possible high quality) torroids from off the computer circuit board,  maybe these need looking at as a good torroid to use as in my "playing" they seem to provide better output than a normal torroid.       ( i did manage to get the LEDs to extinguish using a much stronger HDD magnet)   

Can someone else test these and see if I am right please?   it may be a good source for good components.

Anyway hope i have not rambled on to much as i am not an expert, if anyone needs a video for clarification of what i have done i could do one.

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Offline Rodeown

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 02:08:41 PM »
Well since i first posted i have tried many configurations of coils on the torroids and got varying results...
here are few of my observations....bear in mind i am just "playing" so am no expert.

I noticed using different rated resisitors helps get better brightness,
I now use a variable resisitor and turn it till i get best brightness then measure the resistance and fit a corresponding led,
the "resistor/base" coil can be very few turns with the positive/collector been as many as the torroid can cope with.


What i really would like to see is a JT that can power 24 white Leds at near full brightness off one 1.5v AA,
 If this can be achieved then i believe i can make a self running unit.
If anyone has a circuit diagram that outputs full LED brightness to 24 leds please post in this thread
as whilst i can power 3 to 7 leds at near full brightness when i get above this amount they start getting dimmer.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 03:08:36 PM »
You should take a look at LTseung's work, then. He claims to be able to light up "thousands" of LEDs with his simple JT circuit, which is so OU that he is in mass production already.... it even makes a _negative_ COP !! (I'm not sure if that's better than Rosemary Ainslie's claim of COP Infinity or not...)

Pay no attention to my JT videos. My series-parallel bank of 24 white LEDs, running on 1.5 volts from a battery or capacitor, is somewhat less than "full brightness", after all -- and the circuit mods that I have used only increase brightness and run time significantly, they don't make it OU.

LTseung is the man to watch.....  universities and private researchers all over the world are receiving his _guaranteed OU_ mass-produced JT test boards at this moment.

Offline ramset

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 04:04:12 PM »
Tk
It is not often we get to Bask in such Humility,"full Brightness" is very hard to achieve........
 
But you keep goin Kid ...Someday perhaps?
 
Thx
Chet

Offline Rodelu

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 06:21:14 PM »
You should take a look at LTseung's work, then. He claims to be able to light up "thousands" of LEDs with his simple JT circuit, which is so OU that he is in mass production already.... it even makes a _negative_ COP !! (I'm not sure if that's better than Rosemary Ainslie's claim of COP Infinity or not...)

Pay no attention to my JT videos. My series-parallel bank of 24 white LEDs, running on 1.5 volts from a battery or capacitor, is somewhat less than "full brightness", after all -- and the circuit mods that I have used only increase brightness and run time significantly, they don't make it OU.

LTseung is the man to watch.....  universities and private researchers all over the world are receiving his _guaranteed OU_ mass-produced JT test boards at this moment.


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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 06:21:14 PM »
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Offline bryanwizard

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 10:24:18 AM »
I tried JT circuit already.. made some demo kit. 3Volts battery powering a 5W cfl bulbs.

I used an EE19 core with air gap in the middle leg to store more energy then release it after a cycle.

Offline Rodeown

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 05:25:31 PM »
Pay no attention to my JT videos. My series-parallel bank of 24 white LEDs, running on 1.5 volts from a battery or capacitor, is somewhat less than "full brightness", after all -- and the circuit mods that I have used only increase brightness and run time significantly, they don't make it OU.

Thank you, :-)  I am making a point of NOT watching any of your videos, looks like there is hours of research you have done that i dont need to know about ;-) ;D

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2013, 05:25:31 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2013, 07:41:35 PM »
Thank you, :-)  I am making a point of NOT watching any of your videos, looks like there is hours of research you have done that i dont need to know about ;-) ;D

And of course.... I feel the same about YOUR videos.... or I would, if I could find any.
 :-*

Offline chrisC

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2013, 03:34:15 AM »
You should take a look at LTseung's work, then. He claims to be able to light up "thousands" of LEDs with his simple JT circuit, which is so OU that he is in mass production already.... it even makes a _negative_ COP !! (I'm not sure if that's better than Rosemary Ainslie's claim of COP Infinity or not...)

....

LTseung is the man to watch.....  universities and private researchers all over the world are receiving his _guaranteed OU_ mass-produced JT test boards at this moment.


Is this the same LTseung who forgets to take his medicine?


cheers
chrisC

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2013, 03:57:07 AM »
Well since i first posted i have tried many configurations of coils on the torroids and got varying results...
here are few of my observations....bear in mind i am just "playing" so am no expert.

I noticed using different rated resisitors helps get better brightness,
I now use a variable resisitor and turn it till i get best brightness then measure the resistance and fit a corresponding led,
the "resistor/base" coil can be very few turns with the positive/collector been as many as the torroid can cope with.


What i really would like to see is a JT that can power 24 white Leds at near full brightness off one 1.5v AA,
 If this can be achieved then i believe i can make a self running unit.
If anyone has a circuit diagram that outputs full LED brightness to 24 leds please post in this thread
as whilst i can power 3 to 7 leds at near full brightness when i get above this amount they start getting dimmer.

Check out my videos.  I can light 400 leds on 1.5 volts and,  on my way there, when I did 200,  I would say they were at full brightness.  The 400 were not.  This was done several years ago.

Bill

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2013, 03:57:07 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2013, 11:58:34 AM »
Here's the latest ridiculous statement from the deluded liar Rosemary Ainslie. Someone who has NEVER built a JT and in fact cannot even understand how one works, thinks she's qualified to comment. Her continuing delusion that I am someone named Bryan (or Brian) Little shows how LITTLE regard she has for the truth, and her silly conjectures about JTs and about LTseung show how overweeningly arrogant and willfully ignorant she remains.

Note the lies: She links to THIS THREAD and then says that the basis of my objection is that nobody has made a self-runner. Where in this thread have I mentioned "self running" as a criterion? Nowhere. Ainslie continues to distort, misrepresent, and outright lie about what other people say.


And below the idiotic statement from Ainslie, I've included a photo of one of my JTs, lighting up 4 _neon_ bulbs brightly on the output of one depleted AAA battery. Using conventional understanding of electronics, empirical data gained from many hours of experimentation by myself and others, and proper application of scientific reasoning and technique, I made this.

There is no way that the ignorant and arrogant Ainslie can explain the functioning of this device, or any other electronic device, using her "model" -- one need only to observe her pitiful flailings in order to see the truth: Ainslie is ignorant of electronics, the "standard model" she tries to talk about, standard measurement techniques, the Scientific Method, and even her own chosen obsession: my identity.

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Re: Joule Thief need someone to try something .
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 08:47:23 PM »
I just realized that that is an old photo of the 10mH HVJT. Here's the "current" state of that project. The components on this side of the AAA battery make up the wireless receiver, but the antenna is removed and these components aren't active. The six NE-2 neons in series, 90 volts each, are powered only from the AAA battery.

 

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