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Author Topic: increase OU of captret  (Read 55848 times)

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2013, 04:33:42 AM »
Now I see, you came here at OU.com with the intention of finding sponsors for your project.
Joule thief is a blocking oscillator, and is not a stable oscillator per se, its oscillation frequency fluctuates when the power source diminishes its voltage potential.
Choose other oscillation circuits if you want stable resonant tuning spot.
Good luck to your new design. We come here to share our projects for free.
Correction: I should say I have found my sponsor on last weekend.
Yea, JT does not work for this project. So I have order some ferrite rod and U shape ferrite for the next research.
What I have right now is a generator fully running a LED not too bright without any batteries..........until now.
So, I proved the self-charging effect is an additional energy coming from the cap or the capacitor act like a battery, who's knows....

PARAV

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2013, 12:11:07 AM »
Correction: I should say I have found my sponsor on last weekend.
Yea, JT does not work for this project. So I have order some ferrite rod and U shape ferrite for the next research.
What I have right now is a generator fully running a LED not too bright without any batteries..........until now.
So, I proved the self-charging effect is an additional energy coming from the cap or the capacitor act like a battery, who's knows....

Well, Dequadin,
So much for the utilization of using this forum as a means of sharing ideas for  the rest of the members here ---
You wasted everyones time here.  Accept of course the new sponser that you tricked into your accepting your idea.
You, sir, are a jerk! -- "DO NOT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT"--
Paul

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2013, 01:58:26 AM »

Well, Dequadin,
So much for the utilization of using this forum as a means of sharing ideas for  the rest of the members here ---
You wasted everyones time here.  Accept of course the new sponser that you tricked into your accepting your idea.
You, sir, are a jerk! -- "DO NOT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT"--
Paul
Did I really not sharing the ideas?
you are representing everyone?
Do you even thing about the how to apply the theory into practical?
Do you even try?
Please be respect

PARAV

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2013, 05:43:06 PM »
Did I really not sharing the ideas?
you are representing everyone?
Do you even thing about the how to apply the theory into practical?
Do you even try?
Please be respect
Hi Dequadin,
Yes, with all due respect sir, I may have been a little too brash about this , but still ---The information you submitted was very vague. You refused to submit a schematic. The drawing of what looked like a Leydan Jar shows nothing. What's a guy suppose to do with a theory and  with no pertinent  information to start on?
Your theory and ideas may have been grasped by some of the guys but it went way over my head I guess.
Good luck with your venture.---Paul
 

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2013, 07:06:40 AM »
Hi Dequadin,
Yes, with all due respect sir, I may have been a little too brash about this , but still ---The information you submitted was very vague. You refused to submit a schematic. The drawing of what looked like a Leydan Jar shows nothing. What's a guy suppose to do with a theory and  with no pertinent  information to start on?
Your theory and ideas may have been grasped by some of the guys but it went way over my head I guess.
Good luck with your venture.---Paul

Actually I don't really see your respect, you haven't ask for any clarify idea. Your act quite nonsense. Yes, Sir, you jerk too
There is no free lunch in the world, just free energy.
Did Tesla showing what is the circuit inside the "black box" to the public?
Did Tesla provide his AC generator invent for free at first?
Everything start with theory, not information of an existing "thing"!
If I give so much information, everyone will based on what I provide and stop thinking another designs like you. What a shame!

If I haven't find my angel funding, I can't even afford for those expensive caps.

I left the design of the generator below. Cuz I have redesigned another tube in better output and reduced weight.

http://youtu.be/gykT-j96caY
I started thinking the guys right here mostly are not inventor but the one with the rusty mind

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #20 on: March 28, 2013, 07:35:12 AM »
Hi Dequadin,

You R free to share whatever you are willing to share here in this forum, as Internet is a free world for everybody to participate in it.
And we appreciate very much what you have released until now being the generator circuit Version 1.0 to us.
Your disclosure so far is enough for us to start experimenting with.
Keep on your good work, and when you have success with your new design,  the sole good news will make us joyful and excited so much as to you.
We all need to use our brain, and invent, otherwise, we are reduced to a punch of armchair critics.

aaron5120

Groundloop

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2013, 02:19:49 PM »
Dequadin,

Can you say what brand (and type) of capacitors you are using?
Also, what kind of reasoning led you to put all the capacitors into a shielded jar?

Keep up the good work...  :-)

GL.

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2013, 05:57:58 AM »
Dequadin,

Can you say what brand (and type) of capacitors you are using?
Also, what kind of reasoning led you to put all the capacitors into a shielded jar?

Keep up the good work...  :-)

GL.

those caps are not cheap, for such a high freq. source, what caps will you use?(T.H. Moray signal detector give us hints )
the reason is the foil is easy to capture charge, not the legs of those cap.
when it's complete shield, the output will more stable and voltage drop slower.(maybe output more)
in fact, the effect of put all the capacitors into jar is not huge changes, just better than nothing.
Since the output still small, hard to measure the different.
But one thing that I observed is the temperature does matter. When the cap is heated up, the output is far
lower than the room temperature. Shield it into jar can separate the from the heat source.
And what I want is to make it portable.

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2013, 06:55:21 AM »
Hi Dequadin,
If the output of your captret generator decreases with heat, maybe it is due to the negative temperature coefficient of the capacitance with respect to the increase of ambient heat. That is, the higher the temperature, the lesser the capacitance, hence the lower total output potential.
There are electrolytic capacitors that have positive temperature coefficient of capacitance. That is, the higher the temperature, the higher the capacitance. Hence, choosing this kind of capacitors, maybe you can take advantage of the ambient heat to harness more output, and will not be necessary to isolate the caps from the exterior ambient.

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2013, 11:54:36 AM »
Hi Dequadin,
If the output of your captret generator decreases with heat, maybe it is due to the negative temperature coefficient of the capacitance with respect to the increase of ambient heat. That is, the higher the temperature, the lesser the capacitance, hence the lower total output potential.
There are electrolytic capacitors that have positive temperature coefficient of capacitance. That is, the higher the temperature, the higher the capacitance. Hence, choosing this kind of capacitors, maybe you can take advantage of the ambient heat to harness more output, and will not be necessary to isolate the caps from the exterior ambient.

I know what you mean. My caps are naturally colder than air, that should be because of the turning RE into electric.
You should try different caps. I also based on some theory and started making something. (In my opinion, cold thing is better, chemical reaction is mostly related to heat)
I don't know how, try make it out and test it.
I am thinking to reform the caps or "conditioned" the cap, it should self-charge faster than normal cap.

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #25 on: April 02, 2013, 05:12:26 AM »
If no one know what type of capacitor should use in this generator, please try UC, but not the hybrid type.

I have found that, the reformed or "conditioned" cap will self-charge faster than a normal cap.
The reforming process is .....(caution: if over-charged your cap, it will be damaged and explosive)
1. short 2 legs and connect positive power supply
2. captret connect negative power supply
3. power supply should be higher voltage than the cap's voltage(don't supply too much! Make sure no "swelling" of your cap!)
4. cap should be heated up a little bit, heat it up in addition source(caution: beware the explosion, no direct heat!!)
5. disconnect with power supply, wrap paper than wrap foil to maintain the temperature not to cool down so fast
6. let it cool down for 1 whole days.
7. Test it (short 2leg and captret, disconnect, test the self-charging effect. If no self-charge effect, your cap is dead)

The reforming cap should be around 30% faster in self-charge effect, and around 25% more voltage output.
(reforming process can be effective if provide a radial beam through the cap, which I don't have the radial substance/source)

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #26 on: April 02, 2013, 05:47:46 AM »
Hi Dequadin,
Many thanks for sharing your progress in this project.
In regard with your latest hints, I have a few questions, which are more or less irrevelant, just due to my ignorance of the Electronic Engineering jargons:
1) You recommend the use of UC for the caps. Please confirm UC means Ultracapacitors.
2) I wonder if the conditioning of the caps will shorten the lifespan of usage of the caps, because the heating will dry up the electrolyte inside the cap eventually.
3) What do you mean radial beam? Is it radio frequency waveform ? Or does it mean radial position instead of axial position to the capacitor? Does Radial source mean a radio frequency source ?
Thanks a  lot for clarifying these terms.

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #27 on: April 02, 2013, 05:51:45 AM »
I have not posted results of my replication, because until tomorrow I will be able to go to Shenzhen city to buy the caps for the experiments. I plan to buy electrolytic caps ranging from 0.047uF to 30uF, 6V to 10 V capacitors of low ESR for selecting the best capacitance for the negative bias effect.

aaron5120

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #28 on: April 02, 2013, 06:03:24 AM »
Hi Dequadin,
Many thanks for sharing your progress in this project.
In regard with your latest hints, I have a few questions, which are more or less irrevelant, just due to my ignorance of the Electronic Engineering jargons:
1) You recommend the use of UC for the caps. Please confirm UC means Ultracapacitors.
2) I wonder if the conditioning of the caps will shorten the lifespan of usage of the caps, because the heating will dry up the electrolyte inside the cap eventually.
3) What do you mean radial beam? Is it radio frequency waveform ? Or does it mean radial position instead of axial position to the capacitor? Does Radial source mean a radio frequency source ?
Thanks a  lot for clarifying these terms.

aaron5120

1. Yes, I mean Ultracapacitor. If you have read T.H. Moray patented tube, he use ultracapacitor in his signal detection tube.
2. Maybe...however I need more power, all or nothing, no matter what.
3. I always miss-typing, no time to check. It should be radiation beam, radiate substances are hard to obtain for the test. After the reforming the capacitor with high radiation density, it will memorise the radiation density and drain more to maintain the radiant density inside after the reforming process in theory(I haven't test this one, cuz I don't have those radiation source).

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #29 on: April 02, 2013, 12:13:54 PM »
@dequadin.what exactly in the most simple terms have you got ther.a self-charging cap? Is there oil in the cap?are the two plates of the cap made from different metals and is there a trace of moisture in the cap?lets get to the bottom of this using textbook science.