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Author Topic: increase OU of captret  (Read 55854 times)

dequadin

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increase OU of captret
« on: February 21, 2013, 09:11:59 AM »
did anyone have using filament to feed electron to the captret in a close system(like vacuum tube)?

Setup:
tin the tube outside with black colour.
captret(highly negative)
positive terminal-> connect to the positive to the load
negative terminal -> to the negative of the load

To begin with, feed electron using filament connecting to a small circuit, then remove.
if the self charging effect is valid, the captret must be charged up with negative ion.


Thinking this way...  High RE(low density of -ve) -> Low RE(high density of -ve)= battery
1. Atmosphere is slightly Low RE. Captret terminal connected here
2. positive terminal of the cap tend to move potential to same as the atmosphere.
3. negative terminal tend to stay Low RE
when connecting captret terminal with much negative atmosphere(Much Lower RE), positive terminal become High RE compare to the captret and push ion to negative terminal. Resulting in draining RE into the cap

So, cap voltage(density different) mean easiness of become Low RE that we really need
« Last Edit: February 21, 2013, 12:30:20 PM by dequadin »

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2013, 01:50:28 PM »
Actually, I have build a system to make a really big tendency to grab +ve charge, and put those charge into a big capacitor.
big capacitor captret terminal connect to the negative terminal of a capacitor for storage, all -ve and +ve connect to the positive terminal of the storage one.

for the storage capacitor, short captret and the negative terminal, the voltage between the storage capacitor grow up no longer in hour, but few second. (<3s +1mV)

the big capacitor and the storage one (250V 470uF)

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2013, 06:57:06 PM »
I found it!

But i am not sure. it charge my 2.7V 63kF to 0.5V just a second without battery. i short it down to zero and it grow up to 0.5V again in a second!
I have used a Digital and a analog voltmeter to test it, the analog one showing 0.4V , digital one showing 0.6V and growing up.

i am trying to make one to light up 1 LED


It is beyond my understanding of physic!! No heat released in that such a high power charge up....... :o
no matter how many time i discharge, once the circuit is closed, my cap bank just charge up in a second
« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 02:57:19 AM by dequadin »

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2013, 02:19:37 AM »
My tube provide me about around 1.1V right now. When I reduce the pressure inside the tube, the tube seem to give me much higher voltage output from a output terminal.

When I compare the voltage different with the ground, the ground act as a positive side. It is too hard for me to purify the output and amplifier the output to a higher voltage, since it has a strange behaviour of the output, just like a extremely high frequency(cannot be measure by any device) pulse voltage

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 06:37:33 AM »
I can now getting more the 3.4V~3.7V from my tube after shield with PVC, look really like the same as T.H. Moray one.
However, my tube doesn't require any battery.
After I can build something produce more than 12V and light up something like 40W LED, I will share this tube.

Also, I based on the same theory that already made something interesting like this, enjoy.
http://youtu.be/YuqiijUpvxY

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2013, 05:56:57 PM »
Updated
My device now can produce 8.96V, however the power is lowered in this setup, out of my expectation :'( :'(
Test:
28p LED, 1/4 brightness
4s LED full brightness
1 LED, burn out

device weight now : 2kg
material of the device: glass, glass powder, metal, plastic, oil

Target: 4kg weight can charge up an iPhone :-[ :-[

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 06:35:45 AM »
5LED full bright
13 LED around 1/2 brightness

my device do not contain any battery. However, in this setup reduced the power output for a higher voltage.
So I will redesign and let it produce a much lower voltage and transform it to around 5V soon.

I can sure this energy is non-stop producing. After I short it down to zero, it will grow up back to the same range of voltage.
When the weather gone bad, the energy produced is around 70%

The spec. of the LED is 3mm 3.0V~3.6V 13~20mA focus light

http://sphotos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/417673_10151484426256052_1551950029_n.jpg

http://sphotos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/60401_10151484665841052_1868304443_n.jpg

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2013, 02:27:25 AM »
The huge tube radial energy generator is in process......

The below thing is my tube using captret in high voltage, a 9V battery used.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZGbGzhtqZo

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 07:41:25 AM »
Sorry for the late update. I am still working on the prototype generator.

I received serval questions about the tube, I will only answer some questions.
1. I am not planning to show the circuit, since what I am building a huge prototype generator using the same theory and similar circuit. I can only provide limited information about the tube.
2. 3 terminals(including captret) of a capacitor will be use, none of the terminal with no connection.
3. The tube(the jar) showing in the picture having a foil inside as negative and foil outside as positive(0 V, "antenna" in my theory), the foil outside masked with tape
4. The tube(the jar) inside is low pressure, some water vapour maybe. (I pour alc. into the jar, light it up, pour out water and shield it fast)

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #9 on: March 20, 2013, 08:56:08 AM »
Hi dequadin,
Greetings from HK! I have written a comment in your YT channel. Congratulations! Your discovery seems to be very impressive, using the captret concept. Plengo would be very interested in knowing someone has developed a better captret application from his original ideas.
I look forward to learn more from you. I currently do R & D in joule thief alike circuits.
Keep up the great work, bravo!
aaron5120

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #10 on: March 21, 2013, 02:16:39 AM »
I have made the small scale of RE electric generator to light up a LED.
No battery involve at this time!

Energy from what we call "self charging effect", thats prove the RE does exist around us
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zUKmH4YqVk

I will continue my research on this type of energy.

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2013, 05:59:03 AM »
I tried my best to interpret your description of the modified captret device. This was done for the benefit of the fellow researchers here in OU.com in getting a visual idea of what you are currently doing. Sorry if the setup does not match closely to your actual connection.
You may choose to enlighten us a little bit more with your clarification. Thank you for sharing.

aaron5120

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #12 on: March 22, 2013, 07:11:15 AM »
Not really look like arron5120 mention.
The jar I call it R.E. Receiver, 9V battery involved.
You can only see 3 terminals on the jar, all the circuit and stuffs placed inside the jar.
The Captret is placed inside the the jar, the storage capacitor too.
I highlight the foil is placed inside and outside the jar, the foil outside is feed-back to the jar as antenna.
The foil inside is slightly negative and feed to a small circuit then connected to captret with a 9V battery negative terminal.

Another picture is the design of the scale-down RE generator that "without" involve any battery.
It weights about 1.3kg placed in a gift box, 2 terminals for positive and negative.
Without the Load, its voltage above 24V, when the output after shorted, the voltage will suddenly grow up to 4V instantly, and +1V/s,+0.5V/s,+0.1V, half-hour with grow up to around 24V
With Load(LED 3.3V 20mA focus light), its voltage around 3.2V with around 11~12mA(just guess by compare the brightness)

dequadin

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2013, 03:13:41 AM »
Updates:
1. I find my sponsor for this research.
2. I have tried using joule thief to drain the energy from my tube, but this doesn't work(unstable voltage, what is the load for the transistor then?....using adjustable 3kohm, can't be tuned on the right spot)
3. new design is planning

Thanks all for the support

aaron5120

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Re: increase OU of captret
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2013, 04:02:14 AM »
Now I see, you came here at OU.com with the intention of finding sponsors for your project.
Joule thief is a blocking oscillator, and is not a stable oscillator per se, its oscillation frequency fluctuates when the power source diminishes its voltage potential.
Choose other oscillation circuits if you want stable resonant tuning spot.
Good luck to your new design. We come here to share our projects for free.