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Title: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 21, 2013, 03:35:05 AM
Hi,
the latest Russian meteorit at the 15th of February had some strange side effects:

Please watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg1iH7i6ozI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg1iH7i6ozI)


Why was the loud sonic boom bang only 1:24 minutes later heard as the meteorit has already passed by as can be seen by the cloud´s trail  ???

2. Why were there several detonations to hear ??

Hmm, strange !

As the distance from the clouds was probably not more than 1 Km over the ground where the cameraman recorded this, the sonic boom should be there in just around 3 seconds, but not minutes away ! Can somebody please explain this ?

3.Also these videos show, that a UFO might have broken through the meteorit and thus made it explode in the air, rather then on the ground and so helping to avoid bigger craters and more damage...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YLxZYiLKMw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YLxZYiLKMw)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_eGtmEjHQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_eGtmEjHQ)

What do you think of this ?

Many thanks, Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic boom from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 21, 2013, 03:41:41 AM
Also in this video you can hear the several booms and the cloud trail from the meteor is already there
for some time already !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajjtObT9RJI


Strange...

WHy does the sonic boom takes so long to come in and why so many boom sounds ?
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic boom from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 21, 2013, 03:47:53 AM
Also this video:

27 seconds after he began recording and it sounds like being in a war zone !


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1P521pXW6Qo


I guess the clouds are not higher than 1 km , so at 330 Meters/sec the sonic boom
should be there in about 3 seconds but not after 1 minute or more...

and why so many booms ?
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: e2matrix on February 21, 2013, 06:21:03 AM
Cool videos!   I did not however see anything that didn't have a reasonable explanation or at least a theory I could use to logically explain what was observed.    An incoming large meteor or whatever you want to call it - meteorite, space rock will get heated up rapidly upon entering the atmosphere and if it isn't small enough to just burn up it will likely explode into many pieces.  Rocks heated with a torch will explode.   As far as the explosion sounds there are a couple possibilities.   Since this was coming in much faster than the speed of sound an initial boom may have been picked up from miles away from the incoming direction after the meteor had already passed by.   Or it may have been the sound of the impact which easily could have been several miles beyond the city where the videos were taken.   An impact 5 miles away would have produced a boom close to 27 seconds after the fly by.   The main impact could have been the big boom or the sound could have been from earlier when it was going faster than the sound barrier.  Then the smaller booms could have been the impacts of all the smaller pieces either impacting the ground or making their own sonic booms.   I'm not sure but just thinking those are possibilities. 
   The one video of someone claiming a UFO shot it apart doesn't seem likely from what I saw.  It looked more like the point where the meteor exploded and there may have already been some fragments breaking off that were on the same trajectory.    Now if it had really been a UFO I would imagine a high power laser type beam hitting it or an energy burst of some sort that would have totally disintegrated it.  And that would have probably happened far before it got that close to the planet.   If 'they' were protecting us why did over 1000 people get injured?   I think anything is possible but IMO the "UFO shooting it" idea is unlikely. 
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 21, 2013, 08:38:38 AM



Strange days....Strange Days Indeed.


http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/02/mans-trip-to-heaven-story-going-viral-2571498.html


Our reality is showing it's age.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 22, 2013, 03:49:26 AM



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What bothers me is why do people see something that is able to be described perfectly well by science (and for that matter simple common sense) and dream up the most absurd bullshit to explain it.


Well, Gianna, there's 'bs' and then there's 'absurd bs'.  What Stephan proposes is neither.  Of course, if one had taken the time to investigate, one would have found much factual evidence regarding UFO's interacting with both heavenly and terrestrially based flying objects.


Here is one sample among many.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePr0FBZ7wNg


Absurd 'bs' would also include calling 'absurd bs' about proven possibilities of which one is obviously ignorant.




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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 22, 2013, 06:21:49 AM
Lol....to someone who responds with knee jerk "absurd bs" in ignorance to Stefan's thoughtful sharing of information, no amount of evidence would be enough.  I'm not here to educate or prove anything to you, Gianna.  Simply obtain more education before inferring 'absurd bs' on the forum host.  Youtube is replete with enough compelling evidence for which to make solid conclusions as to the parameters of possibilities regarding a great many increasing dilemmas the world faces.  Apparently, you haven't been afforded the opportunities to spend much time at all under clear night skies as well, or your eyes and mind would be less 'squinted' than at present.

For those with eyes to see, among which I will not libelously include you, Gianna, here are but a few examples....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH3VFxLafOU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH3VFxLafOU)

Youtube - 'ufo shoots'  (many videos from many sources)

http://rense.com/general81/myst11.htm (http://rense.com/general81/myst11.htm)

Walson's pics and vids have been confirmed by a growing number, some of whom have direceted IR lasers toward these space craft and have received absolute confirmation of exotic, highly maneuverable space craft.

At present, for those of us who have seen these things with our own eyes and the mountain of shared evidence from others....the ones calling "absurd bs" on these matters from their armchairs come across as willfully ignorant or worse; paid internet schills.  Or even worse still, unpaid internet schills, that may not even know they are schills....(lol?)

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/ (http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/)



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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 22, 2013, 06:37:34 AM
Well it was told by the media that the Meteorit was just only 15 Meters big in diameter and when you look at the cloud
trails you just see, that they are NOT 20 Km above the earth but only around maximum maybe 500 Meter  to 1 Km !

At 15 Meters diameter and 20 Km height you would not have seen such a big sized trail from the ground standing directly below it..

Also you can see it from the car videos that the meteorit was already pretty low in height when it glew up...


Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 22, 2013, 06:51:22 AM
Great observations.  Google 'Tunguska Ufo' as well, Stefan.  The natives of that region reported many strange sights and portents inconsistent with naturally occurring events for months up until the blast.


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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 22, 2013, 11:51:48 PM
  Although it may be hard to know for sure if that was actually a meteor, or just what it really was. Or if that was an alien UFO that blew it apart, or our own UFO, to help us avoid a worst catastrophy. 
  They may have done something similar to this before, in other places.
  I have heard that no thermonuclear war will be permitted in our neck of the woods, by those that can control that type of thing, which may not be anyone from this planet.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 23, 2013, 02:36:01 AM
No, you are mistaken. According to European Space Agency (ESA) , it was  a

"17-meter (56-ft) meteor with an estimated mass of between 7,000 and 10,000 tonnes exploded at 03:20:26 GMT over 55° 10' N, 61° 25' E at an altitude of 15 to 20 kilometres". That ties in nicely with my original impression of the videos. 

I think you are misinterpreting the height as there is nothing to really give it scale, and you are probably subconsciously comparing it to jet contrails. This object was travelling at around 18 km/ second so would leave a much larger wake that would appear closer if using the same subjective scale.

So in the first video from the delay of 1:25 minutes=85 seconds,
do you really think this was 85 seconds / 3 = 28.3 Kms high ??

At 17 Meters the trail it produced was probably maximum 50 Meters wide when it went through there....
So you do you really think these videos show a 28 Km height trail ?

At 50 Meters width at almost 30 Km height this should look much much smaller when you are standing on the ground below it....
This would not have covered almost 1/5 of the sky in the video then, if it would be 28 Kms high and 50 Meters wide !
Just calculate it....

Compare it to "normal" "chemtrails" from commercial airline planes, which fly at just 10 Kms height...
These are even smaller  although the plane has almost the same wingspan at around 30 to 50 Meters and with 4 plane engines they also emit lots of vapour and chemicals at probably the same width...
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hoptoad on February 23, 2013, 03:58:13 AM
What bothers me is why do people see something that is able to be described perfectly well by science (and for that matter simple common sense) and dream up the most absurd bullshit to explain it.

snip..
Even more concerning, is that many who do so, are political or religious leaders!
Cheers
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 24, 2013, 01:43:11 AM
No way this trail was 28 Km high !

Look at these pictures done with unzoomed camcorders and mobile phones !

Maximum 500 Meters to 1 Km high IMHO !

The only thing that could be, that the sonic speed was broken at higher altitude
some 30 Kms away from the town and then the sonic boom traveled for 85 seconds
into the direction of the town...
But as you can see, the cloud trails directly above the town is NOT 28 Km high !


Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 24, 2013, 02:26:25 AM
It does seem to make rather clear that since a house sized rock can do that....and Tunguska did what it did, all from above ground....

Then what what awaits after an appreciable storm of car sized flammable chondrites over land, or a football pitch sized ocean impactor?

I mean, look at what happened to Sodom and Gomorrah:


http://arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm (http://arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm)


Time, what remains, Will tell....




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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 24, 2013, 08:56:25 AM



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You are demonstrating the classic mistake of allowing your point of view to cloud your judgement of the evidence.


I disagree.  In fact, I'd say that Gianna is repeating the more common mistake of allowing his cloud of view to point his judgment.


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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 24, 2013, 07:00:35 PM
   Stefan and All:
   Here in the video below (second video below), are some comments from a Russian cosmonaut that knows and has seen more than us.
  There are many objects flying all around our near space field. This guy is saying that some of these are inteligent, and were following him. Check his video out.

  Whether it was a UFO that blew the meteor apart, or not, we may not ever know for sure, but here is another video to further prove this was not done by the Russians.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZzG881Vii8

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=WASnC_-vsQs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=WASnC_-vsQs)

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 24, 2013, 11:26:52 PM
Absolute rubbish. This wake is significantly higher than that, but from the photos you choose it is hard to say exactly how high as there is nothing in the pictures to provide a scale, other than the expected size of the wake, and you are grossly underestimating that size.

Absolute rubbish:
You seem to have never seen chemtrails or vapour trails from planes that fly at 10 Km !

These are much smaller than these cloud trails from the Russian meteorite.
At 28 Km would be even 3 times as high !

Give me a break, if you claim these clouds are really almost 30 Km high you are nuts !

You can see the scale from the houses and the trees.
These are maximum 1 Km high probably much less...


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Remember that this exploded with an energy  equal to a half a megaton nuclear bomb. If the wake was only 500 to 1000 metres away the cameraman would most likely have been vaporised by the event. 

Yes, that is also what I don´t believe  !

These were just a few big sonic booms, but no half a megaton nuclear bomb !

If this thing would really have exploded, it would have looked totally different and we
saw the whole vapourizing !

This thing did just glow up , but did not explode !



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The size of wake of an object is proportional to its kinetic energy not just its size.


Rubbish !

How should a 15 Meter Meteorite have a 2000 Meters wide vapour trails just a few seconds after it flew by ??
Totally unlogic and does not work physically !

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Have look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_event) where it gives the relationship between meteor size and airburst altitude. To have exploded at 500- 1000 metres would require an object 85 metres in size and would release 28 megatons of energy. That would definitely giving rise to devastation on the ground on a large scale.  By comparison a 20 meter object such as this gives an airburst altitude of 22 km and around 380 kiloton blast

You are demonstrating the classic mistake of allowing your point of view to cloud your judgement of the evidence.

It did not explode ! It just only burned up ! Just look at all of the video for the evidence !

The sonic booms must have come from 30 Km away, where it entered the lower atmosphere !

In the late 60s and 70s we had often some Russian Jets flying over West-Berlin where I live in the cold war time
making sonic booms to scare us.
Almost every time I ran outdoors when this happened and wanted to see the planes, but you could
never see them. They were probably really high and you could also only hear the sonic boom and they had already
been flying by and could not be seen.

Sometimes I also was already outdoors, but just milliseconds after the boom
looking up you also could not see anything... So I guess they have been flying way too high to be seen by the naked eye...
or they had already passed by and the sonic boom was traveling way behind them....
Probably the same happened here in Russia, that the sonic boom was really coming from 30 Km away and traveling way behind the
meteorite...
but the pictures I posted it was already very low above the houses as you can clearly see from the pictures...
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 24, 2013, 11:32:37 PM



Careful there, NickZ.....we wouldn't want to offend someone's delicate sensibilities by prying too hard with that eyelid crowbar.


One man's mountain of evidence, is another's fearful abyss.




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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 25, 2013, 12:18:44 AM



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No, I've certainly never seen a chemtrail, because they don't exist.  As I've said before, no need to start spraying people when the average intelligence is so low already.

LOL!  Well then, it's official.  'gianna' has never been outside with his/her eyes open.  (big surprise)  Come to think of it, apparently hasn't been on the internet with his/her eyes open as well!

The only alternative is the the paid/unpaid schill scenario.....

You know, like hitler, for the greater good and all.


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P.S.  Stefan, surely you see the futility of furthering dialogue at this point.  For if one is in such a dense 'fog' already, of course they cannot distinguish chemtrails.  Only on the internet are those whose lifestyle choice is to 'cuss the impossibilities', all too often allowed to be the bane of those who gather to 'discuss the Possibilities'.  If yours was a public forum in real life, the 'giannas' wouldn't bother showing up, and for very good reasons.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 25, 2013, 01:22:43 AM

  @ Gianna:
  Sorry our combined knowledge and opinions here don't meet with your approval.
  But, I don't think the crowbar would help. Maybe a jackhammer would do the trick.

  I guess then that the cosmonauts report is just rubbish, also, as well as the video of the object that blew up the meteor.   Thank God!


Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 25, 2013, 02:18:48 AM
   Well, I see.
   Then its all just space junk. Thank God,  again...
   There are no other objects in space, just "rubbish". There are no videos of space that are showing  anything other than that.  Sorry my mistake. 
But,... do you believe your eyes? Then do some real looking into it. Or better yet, never mind.
  Time will tell, and I'll remind you then. 
  Have you heard about something called a superiority complex.  NO?

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 25, 2013, 06:00:44 AM



The more attention you give to sophomoric adolescents, the more they will whine.


As I stated early on...no amount of visual evidence is enough to pry open the stubborn eyes of the willfully sight impaired.




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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 25, 2013, 06:19:08 AM



Told ya guys.....

It acts like some kid, I'm guessing a high school/college dropout, who stayed just long enough to become indoctrinated but lacking the motivation to finish.

Which explains the demands for a free education here on the forum.

Ignore him/her and that one will vanish in a puff of....puffery.


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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 25, 2013, 06:24:55 AM
    Gianna:
    You're still reading this thread? There is no proof, nothing but Bs, dumb dots flying through space, etz...   
  I get it...
   

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 26, 2013, 12:44:41 AM
  If you feel that way, then why are you here. Your insults, and only negative comments are only serving your overinflated ego. What is your problem.   Take it elsewhere.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 26, 2013, 04:56:22 AM
No, I've certainly never seen a chemtrail, because they don't exist. 

As I've said before, no need to start spraying people when the average intelligence is so low already.


You seem to be a paid disinformation agent or you just don´t understand or are too dumb to understand !

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 26, 2013, 05:05:46 AM

Ok then, provide just one conclusive piece of evidence for chemtrails. There are absolutely none.



Again wrong:

http://www.sauberer-himmel.de/untersuchungen/

And with english translation:

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sauberer-himmel.de%2Funtersuchungen%2F&act=url

These are the measurements of the stuff  from Chemtrail !


Also for more on Chemtrails have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnaejfOztuQ
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 26, 2013, 05:27:24 AM
Here you can see a plane like an Airbus or Boing flying at 10 Km height with the same or bigger
width of the trails like the meteorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJr5bPwnOrk

Now this is only 10 Km height, now imagine 28 Km height !

You almost would not see the about 30 to 50 Meters wide trail in 28 Km height
or only as a very faint white line !

So if you compare it to the Russian meteorite trail you will see, that its trail
was much bigger and thus it was much lower in height, when it passed over the town where the videos were recorded.

So the question still is,
1. where did these sonic booms really came from and
2. at what heights were they produced and
3. how should there have been a half megaton  explosion when the only thing that was shown
on the videos was a burning up meteorite  and during this burning up there was no explosion sound to hear ?

Regards, Stefan.


Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 26, 2013, 06:20:44 AM
 Stefan:
  Thank you for your efforts on this.  I do think that it is futile at this point, to try to reason with a closed mind, such as with the case of this person.  But, the rest of us may  understand, that there was an action taken by an unknown flying object that caused the effect observed in the video.
 
  The video I uploaded shows a UFO of some type, at the moment of explosion.
 I don't see any coinsedense of the meteor blowing into pieces at exactly the same time.

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 26, 2013, 09:03:48 AM
Also, some of the vids I've seen which show projectiles moving toward various moving objects....most times the origin of the projectiles seems to be 'cloaked' or out of frame.  Of course, my own experiences prove to my satisfaction that many of these 'craft' seem to move in time as well as space.

God's Word references the 'beast' in our day as a military/government conglomerate that can call down 'fire' from heaven, taking dominion of the air, even going into space, controlling the weather to an extent.  Even seeking to change 'times' and 'seasons'.  Going so far as to require it's subjects to receive it's 'mark' in order to participate in the economy.

'And the nations will wonder after the beast, saying, "Who can Wage War with it?"



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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hoptoad on February 26, 2013, 11:06:57 AM
snip..
You say burning up, but in fact it is an 'explosion' as the heat given off gives rise to a supersonic shockwave, but I won't argue the point

Indeed, the velocity of the meteorite entering the atmosphere would be upwards of 50,000 kph (and that's a really slow one!) Faster than the space shuttles average re-entry speed of 30,000 kph. Anything, including the space shuttle will create a massive sonic boom upon entering the atmosphere at those speeds. Yet the sonic boom will still be much slower than the metorite (or the shuttle), so long delays in hearing  its flight shockwave and / or its explosion shockwave when it blew apart, would be expected at ground level.

It's easy to see how a kiloton or more of energy would be released when a large meteorite blows apart in the air. Thank goodness it did, because there would have been much more energy released if it had hit the ground while still in one large piece.

Cheers
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 26, 2013, 08:28:28 PM
  As we have not heard from observatories stating that they have previously followed the path of this meteor, before it entered the atmosphere, and have not mentioned anything related to it, at least that I are aware of.  Maybe they have...but, did not warn people about it.
  It may not have even been a meteor, as you mentioned it did not produce the expected extreme sonic boom, but several small booms, instead.
But, no warnings from the big eye in the sky.
  We can see from obserations of our moon, as well as other planets, that big meteors have impacted its surface and left huge craters. Which implies that they did not totally break apart on entry. Even though there is not supposed to be an atmosphere on the moon, which can't be disproved, either. As there may be an atmosphere of some sort, as well as on Mars, and other planets.
  NASA states that they have not been back to the moon in over 40 years. Is this to be believed. Possibly other space crafts from our planet have, and more...
  Although this is all speculation, it all seams very odd to me.
 

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 27, 2013, 12:27:05 AM

OK...
look at these videos and gauge the height.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4N_FpEcxk4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4N_FpEcxk4) , at 0:04 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0yCBuiOVS4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0yCBuiOVS4)  at 0:31 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_RknL9G-Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_RknL9G-Q) at 0:18 seconds

Sorry but none of these videos of the very same event can support the meteor burning up as low as 1000 - 500 meters. This makes the rest of your theory unable to be supported by the evidence.

(You say burning up, but in fact it is an 'explosion' as the heat given off gives rise to a supersonic shockwave, but I won't argue the point)

These are all examples where they used wide camera angle lenses, so these distort the real view and make it look more high... and the first video was probably from a different piece of the trail and from much further away, maybe the next city,
as the trail was much shorter and much more far away and it was filmed almost with a fish eye lens, so big optical distortion...
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 27, 2013, 12:31:22 AM


As to the results of air quality sampling I won't comment until I have researched it more, but the evidence presented so far is not conclusive of anything other than atmospheric pollution from any source.

Yes, study them !

They document the metal ions and other stuff found in rainwater from the chemtrails.

Have a look at this video to see the difference between contrails and chemtrails


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6q8H6ASKgM

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 27, 2013, 01:41:26 AM
  Forget the crowbar, jackhammer, or any other means to open your eyes, you've made your point.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 27, 2013, 11:09:41 PM
Look, gianna, we all know you're having trouble with social interaction, and we've put up with it long enough....

I'll put it in plain language that you're sure to be able to translate.  This is a forum about discussing possibilities, not to pander to immature characters who call 'bs' on every thing.

Such ones, like yourself, would certainly not act as you are in real life.....

For example, if you showed up to a UFO or Free Energy convention in real life, and started doing your 'BS' and 'Idiot' routine with your big mouth, your fingers, or both...

You'd have had your 'BS' attitude adjusted for you by now.

Do yourself and us a favor, quit popping onto the site simply to register how lonely and bitter you are. (sad for one so 'young'.)  You've registered your dissatisfaction and it's past time for you to move on to yet another nook on the net that will probably do as we did, and tolerate your curmudgeonly self for a spell.

You've moved past ridiculous.....


Now it's just time to move....on.




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Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 27, 2013, 11:48:08 PM
  gianna:
   Your rude and insulting attitude is what we are sick of. It has nothing to do with your opinion, which I also don't share.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on February 28, 2013, 02:42:16 AM
Another evidence, that the meteorite was much lower in height:


http://rt.com/files/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/trail-falling-residential-apartment-54.jpg


and there is the quote:


http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/

"Witnesses in Chelyabinsk said the city’s  air smells like gunpowder."


If the trail would have been produced in 28 Km height, there would have been
NO SMOKE on the ground that you could smell !

Decending from 28 Kms it will take a long time for the smoke particles to come
down, ... but not from 500 to 1 km height !

So you have it... the meteorite was much lower than claimed by the scientists...

at least over the Chelyabinsk city !
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 28, 2013, 02:59:28 AM
VERY interesting information...

Quote
"Witnesses in Chelyabinsk said the city’s  air smells like gunpowder."

Various otherwise non-explosive materials require both pressure and heat in order to ignite.  I can certainly understand the attitude of many in Russia, that this appears to be a warning of some kind.  Of course, by the time that many smell 'sulfur', they will see it falling as well.

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm (http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm)

The cities of the plain in the days of sodom and gomorrah received a great pouring of burning 'hail'.  The  balls of sulfur which fell, still litter the sites today.  Sulfur more pure than any natural source found on earth.  Certainly not volcanic.  The balls are still ignitable today, and the burnt shells of the sulfur balls indicate that they were on fire before hitting the ground, many surviving because of being smothered out in the ashes that were created by the great conflagration.  The Dead Sea was once very much alive, and the region around it, a lush paradise.  A paradise sacrificed on the altar of institutionalized wickedness.  Man's inhumanity to his fellow man.   

Just before the earthquake that caused the remains of Noah's Ark (http://arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm) to rise out of the ground to greater prominence, strange lights were seen in the skies of the area.  Many lives were saved by so many being outside to witness the lights.  In the case of the russian meteor it seems, many were injured by the concussive blast as they were at their windows to witness the meteor trail when the sound came.  Signs and wonders....indeed!  The more these things occur, the more people wonder how to react to them.  Instead, one should study the amazing correlation between these events and what was foretold.  As thus far, these events are following an ancient Script written just for our day.




TS



P.S. Revelation 8:7 indicates that what happened at sodom and gomorrah will happen again at this late hour.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: e2matrix on February 28, 2013, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from a CNN article today about new calculations on this and other info:  "From there, Brown said, they could calculate the size of the fireball; and using an estimate of the meteor's speed from the numerous dashboard and mobile-phone cameras that captured the scene, it was "first-year physics" to figure out the approximate size and weight, she said.

The latest estimate is that the Chelyabinsk meteor was about 56 feet (17 meters) across, weighed more than 7,000 tons and was moving about 18 kilometers per second (40,000 mph) when it blew apart, she said."
Article here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/world/europe/russia-meteor/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Based on that speed and size I would guess (my guess only) that it was higher than it looked.   For comparison that was flying about 100 times faster than passenger jets. 

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on February 28, 2013, 05:37:09 PM
  And the UFO that destroyed it was flying faster than that. So, do we actually have a craft that can go that fast, to intercept and destroy such an object?  NO!!!
  I feel that this point is MUCH more important than the size weight, or speed of the meteor.

   Nick_Z
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on February 28, 2013, 11:15:53 PM



http://siberiantimes.com/weird-and-wonderful/news-and-features/news/so-did-a-ufo-shoot-down-the-famous-chelyabinsk-meteorite-last-month/


If, according to the article, there are two other independent videos which show the same object overtaking the meteor, and all videos show no signs of tampering, then there is no other logical conclusion than that it was intercepted.




TS

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: Cap-Z-ro on March 01, 2013, 12:21:07 AM
Let us also keep in mind the Norway phenomenon of last year.

That could very well have been a holographic dry run for this latest 'incident'.

Regards...


Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on March 01, 2013, 01:06:47 AM

Also, please remember that the prolific evidence of the cities of the plain, including sodom and gomorrah having been destroyed by fire from above, was foretold.  Also it is foretold that it would be worse in our day.  We were forewarned that the earth would wobble, the heavenly bodies would be shaken.  They are.  We were told that at the same time, the oceans would be greatly agitated,  they are.  We were told that a militaristic conglomerate 'beast' would take dominion over the air, even going into space, and control the weather to an extent. All sorts of lying wonders it may perform.  "The world will wonder after the 'beast', saying, who can wage war with it?" I could of course, go on, and have.....

For very good reason.

God's Word revealed all of this long beforehand and Has proved accurate to the letter.  Many are perplexed, just as God's Word said they would be.  How many are wise enough to turn to the source of all Good things at this late hour, instead of languishing in doubt, mistrust, and fear of the unknown?

God makes all things Known to His children.  And at the end of this mess, Christ said that there is not a thing hidden that will not be revealed.

There are "lying wonders" designed to deceive and then there is the Hand of God.  Soon enough, there will be no question as to which is which, any longer...


TS
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on March 01, 2013, 01:38:51 AM
  That brings to mind the crop circle of the Alien with the sign.
   Once decoded it says: Beware of strangers bearing false gifts...as well as other warnings.
There are several thousand crop circles, trying to communicate with us in this way.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: hartiberlin on March 01, 2013, 10:11:29 PM
I think the 2 videos with the UFOs smahing the meteorite were somehow filtered from the meteorite glow up videos...

Yes, but unfortunately they did not state how they exactly filtered the source videos...

But as in your upper compilation video all videos were again with fish eye cameras, which distort the height
of the meteorite, although a few of them showed the meteorite coming pretty low, at least much lower than 28 Km !


Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on March 01, 2013, 10:40:18 PM
  As it was obviously dusk, or nearly night time, and the glow from the meteor would most likely cause the camara to adjust for the light, and this can make any other objects quite hard to spot. I can see why the filtering would improve the visibility of other objects. This does not discount the view of what is not just a reflection in the lens, or distortions from light filtering, and would make a difference if this filtering effect is not used. 
  We'll never know for sure.  Would it really make a difference? The important point is that the meteor blew up or was blown up, and caused less harm than if it didn't.
 
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on March 01, 2013, 11:56:22 PM
Quote
The important point is that the meteor blew up or was blown up, and cause less harm than if it didn't.

Just like Tunguska which, itself was surrounded by curious sightings before and after the event.
If one takes the time, one may observe an impressive number of Independent videos which show UFO's shooting at or interacting with, fast moving targets.  Having witnessed the speed of these craft on numerous occasions, it is clear to me that they can move faster than meteors.  A meteor moving at 20 miles a second?  Try 60 to 100 miles a second, including right angled turns.  And that's the slow ones you can see.

Of course, the armchair researcher will NEVER know for sure.  Only those among us that truly wish to 'engage' reality are capable of truly discerning these things for certain one way or the other.  This means spending time out of doors on clear nights.  Any time I hear an armchair 'detective' parade their ignorance on the subject, it quickly becomes clear that they haven't put in much 'sky time' out of doors at all.  It's one thing to 'believe' a youtube video, quite another to witness these things for one's self.

To the naysayers (or even the idly curious) I say, get off yer butts, get outside on a clear night with a common laser pointer or even a strobe flashlight and find out what's really what up there in orbit above us (as opposed to an aircraft with blinking nav lights. big no no).  When one responds by doing the 'squirrelly whirly' or 'monster dive' right at you until it's hovering a hundred feet off the ground and lighting up the entire area with an eerie, golden green metallic light....one can rationalize it away or correlate the information to current events in whatever way one may.

I for one, have seen much more than enough by which to discern the lateness of the hour.



TS
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on March 02, 2013, 12:41:48 AM
  I had also previously seen a video of some saucers flying over the area in Japan where the earthquake hit, over the reactors. Now I don't see them posted on you tube anymore.

  Here is another view of the meteor that hit chelyabinsk. It does not look like cracks in the glass, or light reflections. As the glow would blind anything else in the area, this "filtering"  was necessary.
http://siberiantimes.com/weird-and-wonderful/news-and-features/news/so-did-a-ufo-shoot-down-the-famous-chelyabinsk-meteorite-last-month/
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on March 02, 2013, 07:11:09 PM
  Sorry that was the wrong link (above). 
My point is that some videos are being removed, whether by the posters, or someone else. It doesn't surprise me that the most reveling videos are not available anymore.
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: SeaMonkey on March 07, 2013, 04:28:21 AM
Quote from: NickZ
It may not have even been a meteor, as you mentioned it did not produce the expected extreme sonic boom, but several small booms, instead.

Correct, it was not a meteor.  It was in
fact intercepted in order to assure that
the onboard toxic fuel was ignited and
consumed before the object struck the
ground.  It was a man-made object on a
mission that went awry.

The cover story is that it was a meteor so
that there would be no need to either confirm
or deny.

Yes, the Kiwi (or so he claims) is a disinfo agent.

Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: NickZ on March 07, 2013, 04:52:19 AM
  Interesting, and confirms what some of us had thought that had happened. 
The disinfo agent also makes sense, at least it does to me. As you'd have to be blind not to see the object intersecting, flying through and destroying the so called "meteor".

  Any links to the information you've mentioned would be most welcome.

  Nick_Z
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: SeaMonkey on March 07, 2013, 06:13:26 AM
Fortunately, sufficient video was obtained from
various observers which reveal, to those who are
familiar with such events, telltale signs enabling
discernment of the true nature of what was seen,
heard and felt by many.

When cover is initiated it is done by agreement at
the highest levels of the participant governments.
At some time in the future the truth may be revealed
but because of the classified nature of the event the
media sources (mainstream and alternative) will find
nothing to substantiate any suspicions they might have.

Weapons in Space are not supposed to exist.
 
Title: Re: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it
Post by: TechStuf on March 07, 2013, 11:35:49 AM



http://rense.com/general81/myst11.htm




They don't like it when lasers are pointed at them....I can promise you that.  Sometimes they just flutter out of the way.  Sometimes they zoom down from orbit to just 100 feet off the ground, coming at you so fast it seems that an impact, with you at it's center, is a split second away....only to hover for a few moments, lighting up the entire area, before zooming back to orbital height again in a second or two. 


They appear to move faster than any meteor I've seen.  Much faster.




TS