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Author Topic: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it  (Read 28729 times)

Offline hoptoad

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snip..
You say burning up, but in fact it is an 'explosion' as the heat given off gives rise to a supersonic shockwave, but I won't argue the point

Indeed, the velocity of the meteorite entering the atmosphere would be upwards of 50,000 kph (and that's a really slow one!) Faster than the space shuttles average re-entry speed of 30,000 kph. Anything, including the space shuttle will create a massive sonic boom upon entering the atmosphere at those speeds. Yet the sonic boom will still be much slower than the metorite (or the shuttle), so long delays in hearing  its flight shockwave and / or its explosion shockwave when it blew apart, would be expected at ground level.

It's easy to see how a kiloton or more of energy would be released when a large meteorite blows apart in the air. Thank goodness it did, because there would have been much more energy released if it had hit the ground while still in one large piece.

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  As we have not heard from observatories stating that they have previously followed the path of this meteor, before it entered the atmosphere, and have not mentioned anything related to it, at least that I are aware of.  Maybe they have...but, did not warn people about it.
  It may not have even been a meteor, as you mentioned it did not produce the expected extreme sonic boom, but several small booms, instead.
But, no warnings from the big eye in the sky.
  We can see from obserations of our moon, as well as other planets, that big meteors have impacted its surface and left huge craters. Which implies that they did not totally break apart on entry. Even though there is not supposed to be an atmosphere on the moon, which can't be disproved, either. As there may be an atmosphere of some sort, as well as on Mars, and other planets.
  NASA states that they have not been back to the moon in over 40 years. Is this to be believed. Possibly other space crafts from our planet have, and more...
  Although this is all speculation, it all seams very odd to me.
 



Offline hartiberlin

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OK...
look at these videos and gauge the height.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4N_FpEcxk4 , at 0:04 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0yCBuiOVS4  at 0:31 seconds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_RknL9G-Q at 0:18 seconds

Sorry but none of these videos of the very same event can support the meteor burning up as low as 1000 - 500 meters. This makes the rest of your theory unable to be supported by the evidence.

(You say burning up, but in fact it is an 'explosion' as the heat given off gives rise to a supersonic shockwave, but I won't argue the point)

These are all examples where they used wide camera angle lenses, so these distort the real view and make it look more high... and the first video was probably from a different piece of the trail and from much further away, maybe the next city,
as the trail was much shorter and much more far away and it was filmed almost with a fish eye lens, so big optical distortion...

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As to the results of air quality sampling I won't comment until I have researched it more, but the evidence presented so far is not conclusive of anything other than atmospheric pollution from any source.

Yes, study them !

They document the metal ions and other stuff found in rainwater from the chemtrails.

Have a look at this video to see the difference between contrails and chemtrails


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6q8H6ASKgM



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  Forget the crowbar, jackhammer, or any other means to open your eyes, you've made your point.

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Offline TechStuf

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Look, gianna, we all know you're having trouble with social interaction, and we've put up with it long enough....

I'll put it in plain language that you're sure to be able to translate.  This is a forum about discussing possibilities, not to pander to immature characters who call 'bs' on every thing.

Such ones, like yourself, would certainly not act as you are in real life.....

For example, if you showed up to a UFO or Free Energy convention in real life, and started doing your 'BS' and 'Idiot' routine with your big mouth, your fingers, or both...

You'd have had your 'BS' attitude adjusted for you by now.

Do yourself and us a favor, quit popping onto the site simply to register how lonely and bitter you are. (sad for one so 'young'.)  You've registered your dissatisfaction and it's past time for you to move on to yet another nook on the net that will probably do as we did, and tolerate your curmudgeonly self for a spell.

You've moved past ridiculous.....


Now it's just time to move....on.




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Offline NickZ

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  gianna:
   Your rude and insulting attitude is what we are sick of. It has nothing to do with your opinion, which I also don't share.

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Offline hartiberlin

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Another evidence, that the meteorite was much lower in height:


http://rt.com/files/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/trail-falling-residential-apartment-54.jpg


and there is the quote:


http://rt.com/news/meteorite-crash-urals-chelyabinsk-283/

"Witnesses in Chelyabinsk said the city’s  air smells like gunpowder."


If the trail would have been produced in 28 Km height, there would have been
NO SMOKE on the ground that you could smell !

Decending from 28 Kms it will take a long time for the smoke particles to come
down, ... but not from 500 to 1 km height !

So you have it... the meteorite was much lower than claimed by the scientists...

at least over the Chelyabinsk city !

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VERY interesting information...

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"Witnesses in Chelyabinsk said the city’s  air smells like gunpowder."

Various otherwise non-explosive materials require both pressure and heat in order to ignite.  I can certainly understand the attitude of many in Russia, that this appears to be a warning of some kind.  Of course, by the time that many smell 'sulfur', they will see it falling as well.

http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm

The cities of the plain in the days of sodom and gomorrah received a great pouring of burning 'hail'.  The  balls of sulfur which fell, still litter the sites today.  Sulfur more pure than any natural source found on earth.  Certainly not volcanic.  The balls are still ignitable today, and the burnt shells of the sulfur balls indicate that they were on fire before hitting the ground, many surviving because of being smothered out in the ashes that were created by the great conflagration.  The Dead Sea was once very much alive, and the region around it, a lush paradise.  A paradise sacrificed on the altar of institutionalized wickedness.  Man's inhumanity to his fellow man.   

Just before the earthquake that caused the remains of Noah's Ark to rise out of the ground to greater prominence, strange lights were seen in the skies of the area.  Many lives were saved by so many being outside to witness the lights.  In the case of the russian meteor it seems, many were injured by the concussive blast as they were at their windows to witness the meteor trail when the sound came.  Signs and wonders....indeed!  The more these things occur, the more people wonder how to react to them.  Instead, one should study the amazing correlation between these events and what was foretold.  As thus far, these events are following an ancient Script written just for our day.




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P.S. Revelation 8:7 indicates that what happened at sodom and gomorrah will happen again at this late hour.

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Quote from a CNN article today about new calculations on this and other info:  "From there, Brown said, they could calculate the size of the fireball; and using an estimate of the meteor's speed from the numerous dashboard and mobile-phone cameras that captured the scene, it was "first-year physics" to figure out the approximate size and weight, she said.

The latest estimate is that the Chelyabinsk meteor was about 56 feet (17 meters) across, weighed more than 7,000 tons and was moving about 18 kilometers per second (40,000 mph) when it blew apart, she said."
Article here: http://www.cnn.com/2013/02/27/world/europe/russia-meteor/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
Based on that speed and size I would guess (my guess only) that it was higher than it looked.   For comparison that was flying about 100 times faster than passenger jets. 


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  And the UFO that destroyed it was flying faster than that. So, do we actually have a craft that can go that fast, to intercept and destroy such an object?  NO!!!
  I feel that this point is MUCH more important than the size weight, or speed of the meteor.

   Nick_Z

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http://siberiantimes.com/weird-and-wonderful/news-and-features/news/so-did-a-ufo-shoot-down-the-famous-chelyabinsk-meteorite-last-month/


If, according to the article, there are two other independent videos which show the same object overtaking the meteor, and all videos show no signs of tampering, then there is no other logical conclusion than that it was intercepted.




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Let us also keep in mind the Norway phenomenon of last year.

That could very well have been a holographic dry run for this latest 'incident'.

Regards...



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Also, please remember that the prolific evidence of the cities of the plain, including sodom and gomorrah having been destroyed by fire from above, was foretold.  Also it is foretold that it would be worse in our day.  We were forewarned that the earth would wobble, the heavenly bodies would be shaken.  They are.  We were told that at the same time, the oceans would be greatly agitated,  they are.  We were told that a militaristic conglomerate 'beast' would take dominion over the air, even going into space, and control the weather to an extent. All sorts of lying wonders it may perform.  "The world will wonder after the 'beast', saying, who can wage war with it?" I could of course, go on, and have.....

For very good reason.

God's Word revealed all of this long beforehand and Has proved accurate to the letter.  Many are perplexed, just as God's Word said they would be.  How many are wise enough to turn to the source of all Good things at this late hour, instead of languishing in doubt, mistrust, and fear of the unknown?

God makes all things Known to His children.  And at the end of this mess, Christ said that there is not a thing hidden that will not be revealed.

There are "lying wonders" designed to deceive and then there is the Hand of God.  Soon enough, there will be no question as to which is which, any longer...


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Offline NickZ

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  That brings to mind the crop circle of the Alien with the sign.
   Once decoded it says: Beware of strangers bearing false gifts...as well as other warnings.
There are several thousand crop circles, trying to communicate with us in this way.

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