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Author Topic: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013  (Read 199294 times)

Offline totoalas

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2013, 01:57:04 AM »
All the builds I've seen use spark gaps in the mm range.  A spark will form at between 1 and 2kV per mm of gap depending on air humidity.  SR193 was talking about a minimum of 3kV supply to start seeing see OU effects. Start low and go up, 3 inches sparks will make for a quite unruly circuit, when using a spark gap in series with the load, and working around it would be hazardous at best if not downright impossible when powered. It will also make placing other components such as diodes and caps very difficult, as you would need to drown them in epoxy, or mineral oil.

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Just found the yt channel comment of RimstarOrg   High Power mains Powered Ignition Coil Driver circuit  YT   lokeycmos   check this out   maybe you can replace the ignition coils with flyback    lol

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2013, 02:00:06 AM »
Should there be a Copper ring between the Ferrite sets? The questions are endless :-\
IMO the copper (or brass) ring is essential.
Also, the greater the diameter of this ring and "ferrite sets", the better the device operates.


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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2013, 02:04:35 AM »
Just found the yt channel comment of RimstarOrg   High Power mains Powered Ignition Coil Driver circuit  YT   lokeycmos   check this out   maybe you can replace the ignition coils with flyback    lol

That's interesting, but I don't see where this relates to Kapanadze's devices.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2013, 04:41:44 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hVasVR7AI&list=PLC7684829E98CAD74&feature=player_embedded
 
this guy used the spark from battery and earth to amplify in kapanadze


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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2013, 05:32:39 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6hVasVR7AI&list=PLC7684829E98CAD74&feature=player_embedded
 
this guy used the spark from battery and earth to amplify in kapanadze

Yes, I know.  With an adequate HV supply, not one giving out a 3 inch spark.  Check his spark gap.

m:o)
« Last Edit: March 05, 2013, 08:30:41 AM by tika »

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #49 on: March 05, 2013, 05:32:39 AM »
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #50 on: March 05, 2013, 01:15:11 PM »
Thanks Totalas and Tika for response. Yes Modern flybacks have diode in them as said. Today I hooked the Flyback to the cap in series to the coils and then the SG to earth. Light was very bright on bulb but was flickering. Maybe if I put alot of ferrites in coil I hold voltage and stop flikkering.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #51 on: March 05, 2013, 02:25:27 PM »
Thanks Totalas and Tika for response. Yes Modern flybacks have diode in them as said. Today I hooked the Flyback to the cap in series to the coils and then the SG to earth. Light was very bright on bulb but was flickering. Maybe if I put alot of ferrites in coil I hold voltage and stop flikkering.

Cool, those are encouraging results indeed!  Just a thought: if the HV is too high, a lot of power will escape to ground though the spark gap, the transistor will get very hot and the DC supply may collapse, that will cause flickering.  Did you check the DC supply to the flyback?  If it is collapsing, you need to either get more power available there, or lower the voltage to limit the loss though the spark gap, or a slightly wider spark gap if less than 1mm ? 

Good luck!

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #52 on: March 05, 2013, 05:37:16 PM »
Thanks Totalas and Tika for response. Yes Modern flybacks have diode in them as said. Today I hooked the Flyback to the cap in series to the coils and then the SG to earth. Light was very bright on bulb but was flickering. Maybe if I put alot of ferrites in coil I hold voltage and stop flikkering.
Thats good news
more exploratory experiments to follow and hope to develop a hybrid if not a so FREE Energy which is so elusive    lol
I tried to use two flybacks  and 18 ga 10 T around both ferrite cores ..  These are in series with a relay spark gap   - 2coils in series for each flyback
then to a flyswatter (4.5 v dc supply rechargeable battery)   . the two output from the flyback are charging via a spark   plasma to  a ferrite core with center tap bifilar coil shorted to earth ground . the bottom and top are connected to a dc cap 33000 uf 63 v dc  in series with a diode closing the loop ( energy amplification thread  gyulas latest circuit)
the top e core is wound with 400 t 23 ga   and produced 40 v ac with led lamp flickering with earth tap connection on the body
 the iginition set up for a 220 v ac spark gap...... I will try with a flyback  in place of the ignition coil ( new one cost 400 HKD)  flybacks cost me only 20 Renminbi  so I will buy more
lets simplify and amplify...  my e core is 4 inches in length and 2 inches height for half e core.....
If TIKA can make a control circuit for the hv side would be better
Check also Peter Linderman plasma mod where he amplified the spark into plasma by combing the positive dc source via a 12000 diode from microwave oven then to the output of the HV  ignition coil...
Very simple design  , he has a 555 timer circuit pulsing a 12 v dc relay,  2  no contacts   one side is upplied by variac  the center is from a photo flash cap  and the other side goes to the ignition coil  all are isolated and the supply from charged caps pulsed are the one supplying the ignition coil
instead of variac , we can use the flyback, to charge caps, then to the primary coil   / earth combination,  the load side is History.......
gurugi can you make a simple sketch on the lamp   thanks
totoalas :)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #53 on: March 05, 2013, 08:19:45 PM »
Hi I'm using a ZVS as driver. SG should be very close. Beware  not to explode the cap  :o
Today I tried alot of setups but still wondering which is the best.
I think cap should be in parallel though with flybacks like all Tesla coils.
Ok I should see more on this.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #54 on: March 05, 2013, 10:25:18 PM »
Hi Tika and all.

I have been looking into replacing my Ferrite Sets today and got this spec. I have attached below. What came as a shock to me was the abscence of Iron!! They do have quite a high permeability but will they be any good for this project? They are really cheap though, under 1 GBP each!!

And on another experimental observation with just my basic HF primary and 30 turn secondary. Up till now I have been using a small B/W television Flyback transformer with it's own oscillator drive (16KHz) output probably about 6 Kv rectified. Getting a dim glow in a 240V 40 W incandescent lamp.

 Earlier today I replaced the above with a 5Kv 50 Hz AC Ignition transformer. Slapped on a couple of HV diodes and the light output was amazing.

From this simple experiment IMO, two facts have emereged. First you need a strong healthy spark. And I noticed while the Spark Gap was running I could hear the underlying 50 HZ base frequency but as this was going on, audible fizzing of the SG saw the light intensity increase with the fizz. So even though you rectify your HV AC the underlying drive frequency is carried through. So IMO a High frequency voltage supply is also a must.




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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #55 on: March 05, 2013, 11:44:05 PM »
@totoalas

I still don't understand why you need such a high voltage.   You may fry your coil.

m:o)

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2013, 12:08:57 AM »
Hi Tika
Im trying to use as little input(12 v dc from solar )  to the primary coil as possible as I want to use solar as source  for hybrid kapanadze
The flyback as a cheap alternative  to the  kapanadze tech that can have same or near results will simplify the construction from off the shelf parts
Guruji has light on even in a flicker is a good sign of things to come
In Per Linderman Plasma  mod of AAron Murakami  the spark gap plasma has great impact on cars.....   and if we can apply same technique  will be better   battery   earth   plasma   coil   ?KW load
As you said the control of the plasma is what is needed to convert to useful energy  thats what im after for.......
ihave the parts for the 555 timer   relay caps and coils in an e core   ....  well see where it will lead me   at least Romerouk had initially tested gyulas circuit and saw an increas in cap charge .....then guruji lighting a lamp in a flicker fasion.....  then maybe more to do this set up
Im for kapanadze but if theres another way to achieve this will be better   more choice for the third world countries to benefit
please try this also as it has simple parts and let me know your opinion ...... thanks\
totoalas :)


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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2013, 12:20:14 AM »
@totoalas

I still don't understand why you need such a high voltage.   You may fry your coil.

m:o)
From this simple experiment IMO, two facts have emereged. First you need a strong healthy spark. And I noticed while the Spark Gap was running I could hear the underlying 50 HZ base frequency but as this was going on, audible fizzing of the SG saw the light intensity increase with the fizz. So even though you rectify your HV AC the underlying drive frequency is carried through. So IMO a High frequency voltage supply is also a must.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2013, 09:32:30 AM »
Hi I'm using a ZVS as driver. SG should be very close. Beware  not to explode the cap  :o
Today I tried alot of setups but still wondering which is the best.
I think cap should be in parallel though with flybacks like all Tesla coils.
Ok I should see more on this.

hi guruji

if u left too far spark gaps catodes, cap(s) explode? this coil is air or ferrite cored? how u calc how much turns need forward and back?


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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2013, 10:05:25 AM »
@totoalas

Your guess is as good as mine at this point.  Yes, high frequency is probably important to get the maximum energy gain.  But, as zcsaba77 pointed out, too high a voltage will fry your caps, it will also create arcing conditions in the coil itself and may burn your construction.  Just be careful, OK?

I am going with the theory that scalar waves are transferring energy, the electrons are pumped from the ground wire going through the coil by the the same effect discovered by Sergey Zatsarinin. 

http://jnaudin.free.fr/dlenz/DLE01en.htm
http://www.meyl.eu/go/index.php?dir=60_Documents&page=1&sublevel=0

@Grumage

High permeability is good for the kHz frequencies you are generating.  Iron is not fast enough to charge up with magnetic energy at high frequency.  ยต=7000 should be a good range for 25-40 kHz.

I video #4, Wesley states that the caps on the output side were needed to store output power to keep from flickering, and also that the device did not work well without an output diode.  Diode may not be needed, as your coil is totally different.

I wish you both success.  We will all be able to compare results soon.  Cool!

m:o)

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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