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Author Topic: 1850 Watts free energy power ? New GEGENE circuit by JL Naudin shows COP = 2.8  (Read 178145 times)

Offline casstete

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@MarkSCoffman

you a joke, tell me which devices did you build to disprove them ? How many exactly and do you have proof also not just claim you did something actual videos and such  ,
you haven't the potential to critically think YET you accuse others of not doing so . You probably never managed to build any of them and just here to show how clever you are .... hows that working for you


 I know about Biotransmutation , Cold fusion , I even sell a device that reduces 90% CO2 and +15% fuel in most cases by using such a process . Browns Gas generator & a solid state radiant charger by Supermuble i use for HHO .

I suggest you go study a little like on Prof Pappas Website papimi so you actually can back your Hero Member status with some understanding of the word 



So what I KNOW FOR SURE ... is you not knowledgeable enough to discuss the subject of Free energy in general .

As a Hero Member you lack of understanding of the Universal Source of energy is shocking 

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Offline TinselKoala

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Casstete you are talking, with your insults and gullible ignorance,  to the real makers and builders on this forum. You cannot provide any evidence OF YOUR OWN for the validity of your claims. You cannot provide any demonstrations or experiments OF YOUR OWN to support the ridiculous things you are saying.

200,000,000 dollars to Bedini for the MEG. You are laughable and your posts are nonsensical. Grow up and do some real work of your own, before you insult the builders and knowledgeable experimenters on this forum. You have ZERO credibility here.




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Casstete,

Life is a puzzle sometimes, isn't it?  Sometimes it's enough to crack your noggin.

It's like you consume the worst kind of 'tabloid tech trash' at the supermarket checkout line.  "Baby born with three heads and Tom Bearden makes $200M sale."

If Tom Bearden really did send you that email, then the old carny is still up to his tricks.  Who knows, there may be a "donate" button on a Bearden web site and he uses the money to pay his electrical bill.

You should seriously take my advice.  If you go through life with your current attitude, somebody may one day swindle you out of all of your money.

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I have the Bedini Teslacharger 5 here , did i get swindled ?

I have used the Lakhovsky & Papimi for treatments well proven by many different doctors & scientists .

Have I been swindled ?

The Teslacharger brought back  2 considered useless batteries given to me by my Bike Mechanics .

I have friends here like supermuble who have built JCells made with Aluminium as well as Adams motors .

I sell a device based on Ranque Hilsch effect that reduces fuel by 15-25 % .

OOO and it was tested by Gas de France/SUEZ who confirmed it .

So tell me man , what the f**** do you people think you know ?

I told you before I studies Biotransmutation & Cold fusion .... overunity is no mystery to me .

A Mystery to me is how people like yourself with more hands on experience & capability than myself .... can't do what for example supermuble did with J Cell or JLN Naudin showed with 3-4 devices that show overunity .

So what ?

You telling me if you build a proper Adams or Stoern , www.gap-power.com or the basis of that device a 1890 Magnetmotor by Gary's http://www.rexresearch.com/gary/gary1.htm you can't get mechanical overunity ?

You telling me Bedini showing his wheel spin faster at full moon is a Liar .

Please if it's going down like that I want you to call ALL the inventors here www.rexresearch.com liars .

Also Louis Rota which you never heard of that flew his antiG device from Marseille to Paris with 1000's watching including journalists in when ???

1915 . So man get your finger out and do something , the knowledge is there I lack the change & some know how YET I will manage b4 you lot . Shame .

And this forum is littered with Agents & wanna B Pro's

Proof is if you check supermubles threads and read what he said about devices HE made .. and how you lot bashed him .

He built a successful J Cell ... Question can you ?

Did you ever and do you understand the requirements ?

This forum is for builders ? Build something then


Offline casstete

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Casstete you are talking, with your insults and gullible ignorance,  to the real makers and builders on this forum. You cannot provide any evidence OF YOUR OWN for the validity of your claims. You cannot provide any demonstrations or experiments OF YOUR OWN to support the ridiculous things you are saying.

200,000,000 dollars to Bedini for the MEG. You are laughable and your posts are nonsensical. Grow up and do some real work of your own, before you insult the builders and knowledgeable experimenters on this forum. You have ZERO credibility here.

Yea it's like I said , you think you smarter than Tom Bearden ! I want to see your experiments cause with the posts you have you must have LOADS to show disproving 100's of overunity devices 1000 even that exist .

You want a bet you the ignorant one post 6000 times and building .... 2 out of 100's

You want to tell me what your mathematical odds of being WRONG are considering www.rexresearch.com existing devices ....

Lets just take the 100 year old ones where you should grasp the concepts by now . 

I know Melon farmer smarter than you 120 years ago ... who are you ?

You think you know ANYTHING more than the next man on the subject your kidding yourself .

Explain to us how the body works using a taking  5-6 % from food ... where the 95% needed come from .

OOOO it's a overunity system smart ass , everyone knows it seems you didn't get the message .

Why we copy PC & Hardware as close to the Body as possible ? Alls mysteries to people like you , half ars engineers with limited understanding of anything and expert on everything .

The worst people , educated fools from uneducated schools .

Now Tom Bearden is a honest man , admits to his Bench limitation . Everything I have heard from him has been corroborated by including people like Luc Montagnier .

Can you build a Joe cell like my friend supermuble here in the forums or his radian charger with no moving parts .

He discusses many things me and I told him a few things about water & how structured water was a prerequisite .

So yea you are correct , I have no credibility in this forum cause after 5 years I only joined it now seen as Supermuble warned me it's full of smart arses that never actually built anything but attack everyone with unconventional approach to KNOWN FRAUDULENT ELECTRIC ENGINEERING .

Seems again you didn't get the memo .

Now you compared to Bearden ... lol ... you have NOTHING on him . Even if he sucks by his own admittance .

The insulting here is you because of your first emails .... about how other people don't know what you do .

You a Joke , you don't know much and it shows in your answers to my sometimes very thoughtful    messages .

Have you built the GEGENE or MileHigh ?

Isch don't think so , but you here and happy to destroy it .

So what can I say except for apologies if you did ... & still JLN building 20-30 has more credibility than YOU .

Since this is all nonsense you must have a ready Gegene disproving it correct .

No ? O well then 

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Offline casstete

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Casstete you are talking, with your insults and gullible ignorance,  to the real makers and builders on this forum. You cannot provide any evidence OF YOUR OWN for the validity of your claims. You cannot provide any demonstrations or experiments OF YOUR OWN to support the ridiculous things you are saying.

200,000,000 dollars to Bedini for the MEG. You are laughable and your posts are nonsensical. Grow up and do some real work of your own, before you insult the builders and knowledgeable experimenters on this forum. You have ZERO credibility here.

AND you can't even read  + you don't know who built what ?!?

You Joker telling people to grow up when you have reading problems + don't know who built what !

Now here is the Email from Tom Bearden the guy who made the MEG TINSEL ! Don't know where you got Bedini from BUT OBVIOUSLY  your faster at Bitching than reading properly !

After the confidential part I will not share because he asked me not to this is the rest of his email :


"Anyway, the MEG is completely frozen and will remain so forever, so it appears -- unless someday the international law is changed.

 

Weirdest thing I ever heard of, but search out and check that article in the Wall Street Journal for confirmation of the great

international racket called "sweeping the cash."

 

I'm presently recovering from terrible body damage from months of radiation to kill a terminal tumor in my abdomen, and so it

will be from 8 more months to a year before I can get active again, move around, etc. And I turned 83 years old last December, so

my days are numbered after having my insides eaten out for 33 years by biological warfare mycoplasma sprayed by my own US

folks and Canada in a joint US/CANADA secret program. This modified mycoplasma is called "mycoplasma pneumonae", and there

is a little known specific test for it available from LABCORP by one's doctor. The treatment (50% then live) is a year on antibiotics.

 

Ah well! If I can do it in a few months from now, I'll write up precisely what a dipole is and does (in modern physics). Every dipole

in the universe already is a free energy system (1) absorbing virtual energy from the seething virtual state vacuum, (2) integrating the

absorbed energy to observable size, and (3) re-emitting it as a steady stream of photons which is mistakenly called "static" voltage.

 

The emitted voltage isn't "static" at all, but it is STEADY!

 

Tesla powered that Pierce Arrow car off the "static" (steady) voltage of the battery, without any physical connection

to the battery. Like placing windmill in a stream of wind -- don't try to block the source of the free "energy wind", but just let it

sit in its  ongoing passing stream, diverge and catch a bit of it to power your external loads and losses, and that's it.

 

Hope things go well with you and please hang in there!

 

Tom B. "






THAT is a honest man who may have made mistakes here and there but that HAS to be expected when you confront every know science in the universe AS DID HE !

Ok so go ahead tell me I got no credibility .

This is not ME ... this is the worlds greatest scientists against people who claim it's all BS ..... You

http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/020209.htm

Please feel free to passive aggressive insult me like you did initially you ignorant small minded joker

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@farmhand

You are saying that Bedini has moved away from "radiant energy" tech and I believe that is correct. There really is no such
thing as radiant energy, but what he was using was not directly radiant energy but high voltage pulsing with static electricity.
He wanted to take advantage of what works and what did not change. That is; impedence matching through using
capacitors as DC charge pumps. While it has its drawbacks his currect tech can be used with most any battery technology,
he also combined this with four stage process of battery charging including pulse charging but not with abnormally
high voltage pulses.

His radiant charging only worked with acid/lead battery chemistry and unregulated high voltage pulsing would blow out
capacitors and probably damage supercapacitors as well. Radiant charging knocks bubbles off the plates in water based acid/lead
batteries when opportunistic cosmic events are happening in a way that battery charging power is highly decoupled from the power
of the static electric pulse used to trigger the bubbles release. Other problems with this include important charge process termination
after subjecting the battery to high voltage pulses. The long thread by turion on energeticforum.com that is using a "bad" or "sensor"
batteries is all about this stuff. Its function is all real, but probabalistic.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Ok I agree with you but it's the unseen input from the environment absorbed into the battery, this is also always what Bedini claimed  & you have to try to accept that RPM's on Bedini devices accelerate so seemingly resistance is reduced with greater gravity or whatever the reason may be .

You want to help a layman like myself test the Teslacharger 5 with new  charging technology by bedini , suggest something I'll be glad to test it .

I was running a 9 Watt 0.15 amp device on a 10 Watt Mono Panel ... and Battery was charging .

I don't know what one would expect from conventional chargers so your help would be appreciated in calculating efficiency ... if you bothered .

I am not a fan of the Lindeman & Aaron crew though they have good infomation I don't like their clickbank methods .... but what can I say

I can either try build one ... will take me time and I would never expect to build it as someone playing with it for 20+ years .

So I bought the 3 Amp charger for testing . I got 2 corroded batteries back to hold 12.7 V ... i need 2 put a load and test if it holds the energy but it seems it does .


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Yea it's like I said , you think you smarter than Tom Bearden ! I want to see your experiments cause with the posts you have you must have LOADS to show disproving 100's of overunity devices 1000 even that exist .

You want a bet you the ignorant one post 6000 times and building .... 2 out of 100's

You want to tell me what your mathematical odds of being WRONG are considering www.rexresearch.com existing devices ....

Lets just take the 100 year old ones where you should grasp the concepts by now . 

I know Melon farmer smarter than you 120 years ago ... who are you ?

You think you know ANYTHING more than the next man on the subject your kidding yourself .

Explain to us how the body works using a taking  5-6 % from food ... where the 95% needed come from .

OOOO it's a overunity system smart ass , everyone knows it seems you didn't get the message .

Why we copy PC & Hardware as close to the Body as possible ? Alls mysteries to people like you , half ars engineers with limited understanding of anything and expert on everything .

The worst people , educated fools from uneducated schools .

Now Tom Bearden is a honest man , admits to his Bench limitation . Everything I have heard from him has been corroborated by including people like Luc Montagnier .

Can you build a Joe cell like my friend supermuble here in the forums or his radian charger with no moving parts .

He discusses many things me and I told him a few things about water & how structured water was a prerequisite .

So yea you are correct , I have no credibility in this forum cause after 5 years I only joined it now seen as Supermuble warned me it's full of smart arses that never actually built anything but attack everyone with unconventional approach to KNOWN FRAUDULENT ELECTRIC ENGINEERING .

Seems again you didn't get the memo .

Now you compared to Bearden ... lol ... you have NOTHING on him . Even if he sucks by his own admittance .

The insulting here is you because of your first emails .... about how other people don't know what you do .

You a Joke , you don't know much and it shows in your answers to my sometimes very thoughtful    messages .

Have you built the GEGENE or MileHigh ?

Isch don't think so , but you here and happy to destroy it .

So what can I say except for apologies if you did ... & still JLN building 20-30 has more credibility than YOU .

Since this is all nonsense you must have a ready Gegene disproving it correct .

No ? O well then

I have built the Gengene,and sorry to say-no cigar there. that was nothing more than JLN making measurement error's-already been prooven to be the case.

Quote: Can you build a Joe cell like my friend supermuble here in the forums or his radian charger with no moving parts . ???

you mean a solid state flyback charger/desulphator? I dont get the hype???

I have also built many versions of the MEG,and none worked as Tom said.
The MEG dosnt work,and has not been blacked shelved-they dont black shelf stuff that dosnt work.

Quote: Now you compared to Bearden ... lol ... you have NOTHING on him . Even if he sucks by his own admittance .

Sooo wrong.Tom would be lost with most stuff TK and MH do and have done-sorry,but thats the truth. Every single so called OU device TK has looked into and replicated,was prooven to be under unity. Infact ,TK hasnt missed one yet-He has always been correct-and that's a fact.

Bendini,Arron,Linderman-all full of crap,and only out to make money by way of deception.Example-electric motor secret's ::) Biggest load of rubbish ever sold-and the list go's on.

You could of course post a schematic of an OU device,or a video(clear video)with accurate measurements taken to show OU. But that will never happen-and thats a fact.There is no magic radiant energy coming into the bedini pulse system's-and thats a fact aswell.

Why dose the rotor turn faster on a bedini motor during a full moon -LMAO-maybe the werewolfs are giving it some extra spin.


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200,000,000 dollars to Bedini for the MEG. You are laughable and your posts are nonsensical.

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You have to be cautious about contract numbers; this reminds me of those post punk darlings of the 1980s, Sigue Sigue Sputnik.

It was reported that they signed a $6 deal with EMI. When looking at the text, we see reported something amounting to a fee per show, per record sold, per appearance, in various continents, and ending up with an expectation of numbers such that if these figures are achieved, they will be paid $6m.

i.e. Here is the price list - when you have earned $6m, you get $6m.

On that basis, a $200m deal with John Bedini is quite reasonable, if and only if JB does a digital extraction well before a principal patent of his runs out in seven years time.

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The MEG is Bearden's worthless contraption.  It is in essence a transformer with lots of leakage inductance.  ETI set-out to test it thoroughly years ago.  Their impartial but unflattering report is available on their web site.  No one is going to pay any money for that useless device. 

MEG true believer Graham Gunderson came up with his own useless variations on the MEG.  Mark Goldes' old company:  Magnetic Power Inc. used one of those as the basis of an equally useless patent: 7,830,065 which is a transformer with lots of leakage inductance, plus some permanent magnets to bias it and a resonant tank circuit.  That patent is assigned to the Mark Goldes / Hagen Ruff founded company Chava LLC.  Hagen Ruff has a different company now:  Chava Energy that disavows any connection to Mark Goldes.

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Can you build a Joe cell like my friend supermuble here in the forums or his radian charger with no moving parts . (http://www.overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif)

I probably shouldn't post this here ... because when I show these kinds of things (which are the same kinds of things that FE claimants show as evidence for their claims) people tell me that there isn't anything special happening. (and they are right) But why don't they apply the same critical thinking to Bedini and Bearden et al? Casstete will bust another brainfuse and give us all a lot of laughs.

I think I should change my name to "Beerdonie" and put my stuff in black boxes and provide blurry offcenter scopeshots without information and light up a bank of light bulbs. Then maybe people will start sending ME money for nothing too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0sjqoshznU

This modern generation. They are so used to LEDs that they do not appreciate what a NE-2 can tell them, or what kinds of voltages and electric fields they can indicate.


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Well "Great Beerdonie",  NE-2's are a lot harder to over-voltage than diodes.

how many here remember having to replace the exciter in a florescent light?? or that wonderful smell of the transformer melting,, ah the good-ol-days :)


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Thanks and you make  very interresting point , I wonder if you ever watched Prof.Bass  "Rediscovery of Lost Secret of Moray Radiant Energy .
Systtem "

He claims that it is all Schumann resonance that powered Morays's 20 KW device . Funny thing is that Nobel Prize holder Montagnier shown in his DNA Teleportation ( f#@$ incredible ) that indeed life is brought back by 7.83 HZ .... wherever it once existed ( the water retains the DNA  information & starts recreating from beginning the original DNA )

So the experiment goes like this , 2 glasses of water with DNA , filter it out completely from one of the 2 glasses . Play 7.83HZ and after 16 hours DNA is starting to be recreated ( proteins ... and so on )

We also know that humans , plants or animals when deprived of 7.83 HZ in bunkers they built in germany for that purpose .... people get Ill , tiered , worn out & very sick after a week +- . Depressed , anxious , aggressive ... Naturally because you are removing the LIFE frequency . 

Gravity is only one ingredient , Nature works in Symbiosis as does for instance Biotransmutation or cold fusion ( Alchemy) .

We dealing with many wave forms , Magnetic , Schumann , gravity,light ,sound  ... "time" all these waves interact (resonate with something)and release energy.

I lack the electrical engineering .. so I had to approach it looking at nature like Schauberger & Grebennikov .

If I had HALF the knowledge of electrical engineering people have in these forums I would have built them by now favoring Magnetic as a Magnet is a "generator" by default where then you just need to extract it ( this is what correctly was pointed out by the previous comment )

Look i just ordered the Solartracker V 5 new system by Bedini NOT USING RADIANT as per Lindemann ... I am not happy about it because Bedini spent 20 years telling us about radiant energy and now he flipped on it ? We will wait see what he says .

Radiant was NOT the power ... the power came from what happened in the Battery when it was charged with radiant ( not JUST Pulse charging) ... you can see it in a video i posted (shit spelling ... "Raidiant /Etheric /Orgone - John Benini.)

His wheel spins faster at full moon .. !

Then we now have Keshe from Iran who released 4 GB .. all his files for his device cause they were pressuring him

You have the QEG that now plans have been released

You have Tom Bearden who wrote me that they had been payed some 200 000 000 Mil. for the MEG and that it was held back by UN .... they are not given access to the money !  BUT Jean Louis Naudin built it SUCCESSFULLY .

So most people here should be able to build it ... .

SO MANY DISINFORMATION agents out there ... and if one speaks about how a device DOESN'T work without being able to disprove it .

They are MORE useless than inventors with fake devices !

Thanks 4 sharing and sorry for extensive post  :P

Why can't anyone replicate these OU experiments then?

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Why can't anyone replicate these OU experiments then?

Simply because there is NO OU there. Let me explain...

I have also been interested in this experiment and so, naturally, built a replication circuit. I will tell you the results in a minute.
To make sure that I am objective and there is no outside influence of any kind I even signed up my son and some other local school boys to do a science fair project based on GEGENE. Some picture are attached.

In both cases the end result was the same. The circuit efficiency was never overunity. At best it was close to 94%.
Why then others claim overunity here? Simply because they made some errors in their input/output consumption calculations.
The test circuit included a 1300w induction plate, Tectronix THS710A scope/meter, 3 * 250W load lamps, SunPower 500W online inverter, 35A rectifier bridge / 15000uF/200V capacitor plus a Kill-A-Watt plug-in meter. In addition a Fluke meter was used to double check the results.

The experiments covered every possible scenario with different combinations of flat pancake/bifiler coils, various combinations of number of turns and induction power levels. The efficiency has never even reached 100%.

While it was interesting/educational to complete the project the end result is undeniable: no OU.

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« Last Edit: July 23, 2014, 01:37:54 AM by avalon »


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Two coils (load and feedback) were used.
The feedback coil fed the online inverter through a rectifier bridge+capacitor combination. The resulted AC power was returned to the AC input. The entire consumption was monitored through a Kill-A-Watt meter (plus double checked with Tectronix/Fluke combination).
Some different combinations were used, i.e. load coil was alternated between a bifiler or a standard pancake coil. The same was done for the feedback.
The experiments also included multiple load/feedback coils (up to 3).
~A

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