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gravityblock

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2013, 03:50:26 PM »
The media for the DVD disc is extremely important.  A platinum DVD disc pins the precursor molecule in place, flattening the bent structure while simultaneously catalyzing a reaction that strips off the hydrogen, which is contained in the graphite oxide. As the reaction proceeds, the carbon, also contained in the graphite oxide starts to form a half-cage of sorts and the stripped hydrogen then binds externally to the cages of the fullerenes. At some point, the formation of the spherical bucky ball is presumed to be spontaneous, leaving a ball of pure C60 pinned on the platinum surface of the DVD disc.  In short, this process makes carbon fullerenes with a 100% efficiency, and without the formation of the fullerenes there will be no net energy gain. The red dvd laser can now easily break the bonds of the fullerenes with a net energy gain.  In addition to this, DVD's have a polycarbonate structure which acts as a dilectric for high stability capacitors.

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #33 on: February 23, 2013, 12:37:56 AM »
Thanks so much for sharing the News on this!!!

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #34 on: February 23, 2013, 06:26:46 AM »

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #35 on: February 23, 2013, 06:32:47 AM »
I see it was already posted . Hackaday

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #36 on: February 23, 2013, 08:39:56 AM »
I see it was already posted . Hackaday

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Yes, I posted that as I check their site all of the time.  They have some great things on there, most of which i do not understand.  It is a good place to learn some new developments though, except, they are not as advanced as we are here on OU on the JT circuits, but other than that....

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #37 on: February 23, 2013, 08:07:11 PM »
This patent discloses how to create a graphene or graphene oxide arerogel which may be reinforced with a polymer.  The polymer could be a polycarbonate layer on a dvd disc to act as a dielectric for the formation of a high stability graphene aerogel super capacitor.  Exposing the surface area of 1 gram of this graphene aerogel would cover the length of an entire football field.  This method allows the graphene super capacitor to easily be scaled up.  Below is a snippet of the patent above.  Interesting stuff!

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A carbon-based aerogel is disclosed in which the carbon atoms are arranged in a sheet-like nanostructure. The aerogel may be either a graphene oxide aerogel or a graphene aerogel and may further be reinforced with a polymer. A method for making the aerogel is also disclosed and includes providing graphite oxide, creating a dispersion of the graphite oxide in a liquid, and drying the dispersion to form a graphene oxide aerogel. In one embodiment, the graphene oxide aerogel is thermally treated to convert the graphene oxide to graphene.

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« Reply #38 on: February 23, 2013, 08:25:50 PM »
I believe that was in response to my question above about the tape method.  i asked how it worked and thought maybe the efficiency could be scaled up a bit.  In thinking about it, I think perhaps the tape removes from the surface some particles that have been oxidized by the exposure to air.  If this is correct, why could we not grind the graphite into powder form and place it in a vessel and pressurize the vessel with pure oxygen and maybe even agitate the contents a bit?  It would seem to me that this would speed up the oxidation process...perhaps not by enough to make it viable.  The method used in those videos was with acid, which would be problematic for me to do in my small apartment.  Maybe we can come up with something that does indeed work.

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Bill,

Here's a video on "how to make Graphene at home by the bucket-load:  Part 2 - Simplified method".  This simplified method looks relatively safe if the necessary precautions are taken with there being no risk for explosion.  Let me know what you think, thumbs up or thumbs down?

Thanks,

Gravock

Video Description:

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"So, i was getting a lot of people telling me that the method I was using was pretty complicated and I agree. So, I have spent quite a bit of time looking for a much simpler way to do this and I think I have found it. Basically the method is to put

320ml Sulphuric Acid
80ml Phosphoric Acid
3.2g graphite Flake
18g Potassium Permanganate

into a jar and leave it sitting around for 3-4 days. At the end of that time add 100ml of Hydrogen Peroxide and you are done. What you should have is a bright yellow precipitate of graphene oxide. Then you need to wash this in 1 moar HCl and water until the pH is about 4 or 5. I don't think you could get simpler than this for a wet chemical method that seems to produce nearly 100% graphene oxide - well, I know I don't lead that interesting a life but I am pretty excited by this."

Edit: Corrected bad link.

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #39 on: February 23, 2013, 08:57:19 PM »
Bill,

Here's a video on "how to make Graphene at home by the bucket-load:  Part 2 - Simplified method".  This simplified method looks relatively safe if the necessary precautions are taken with there being no risk for explosion.  Let me know what you think, thumbs up or thumbs down?

Thanks,

Gravock

Video Description:

 Published on Feb 1, 2013

"So, i was getting a lot of people telling me that the method I was using was pretty complicated and I agree. So, I have spent quite a bit of time looking for a much simpler way to do this and I think I have found it. Basically the method is to put

320ml Sulphuric Acid
80ml Phosphoric Acid
3.2g graphite Flake
18g Potassium Permanganate

into a jar and leave it sitting around for 3-4 days. At the end of that time add 100ml of Hydrogen Peroxide and you are done. What you should have is a bright yellow precipitate of graphene oxide. Then you need to wash this in 1 moar HCl and water until the pH is about 4 or 5. I don't think you could get simpler than this for a wet chemical method that seems to produce nearly 100% graphene oxide - well, I know I don't lead that interesting a life but I am pretty excited by this."

Thanks for posting this but, when I hit the video link, it opens another page and takes me to the OU home page for some reason.  I have heard of this happening to some folks here but I have no idea why.  This method does sound reasonably safe and simple even though I was a very poor chemistry student, I think I could do this ok.

Can any one else get the video link ok or is it just me this time?

Thanks, great research on all of this.

Bill

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2013, 09:34:39 PM »
Thanks for posting this but, when I hit the video link, it opens another page and takes me to the OU home page for some reason.  I have heard of this happening to some folks here but I have no idea why.  This method does sound reasonably safe and simple even though I was a very poor chemistry student, I think I could do this ok.

Can any one else get the video link ok or is it just me this time?

Thanks, great research on all of this.

Bill

I corrected the bad link.  Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Gravock

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #41 on: April 19, 2014, 01:06:08 AM »
I have seen a few youtube videos of a guy using a predesigned lightscribe file to turn the graphene into a super capacitator.  Does anyone know where to find one of these files?  Maybe we could design one.
Heres the video with the pattern.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABZ6Sskf-0A

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2015, 10:20:36 PM »
Hi Guys, just a question.

I had a dinner with my wife and the candles, you now how it is. And than I was a bit just messing with the candle and then I realized the black deposit of the smoke from the flame could be some kind of Graphene?  So I collected the dark matter and putted on the tape and when I check it across the distance with the multi meter it shows me between 3-32MOhm.

My question is- is it Graphene? 

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2015, 12:57:02 AM »
Hi Guys, just a question.

I had a dinner with my wife and the candles, you now how it is. And than I was a bit just messing with the candle and then I realized the black deposit of the smoke from the flame could be some kind of Graphene?  So I collected the dark matter and putted on the tape and when I check it across the distance with the multi meter it shows me between 3-32MOhm.

My question is- is it Graphene? 

Cheers.

hi there.
you've managed to discover the answer to finding overunity. this first began when you found a way to get her to actually cook those nice sit down dinners you share together thats been keeping you alive. haha just kidding around.

that does sound interesting your discovery with the tape collecting airborne carbon deposits.
could it be a method to making graphene? it does work using a carbon, and without knowing myself having not duplicated the experiment, i would have checked for electrical conductivity also on non carbonated piece of tape, though you might have already done that as well and found there was a difference or not in results.
could the tape itself be able to have transferred some kind of static charge, or even the electric current in your own handling of the tape if bending it and maybe also that heat and the tiny electrical current that is present with the person themself?
was the rooms air very dry from a heating source? type of material if there was a tablecloth or surface the tests were performed on?
was one of those new smartwatches worn that might have some radiation present from the device it is or something to do with its bluetooth function on? other metallics nearby, rings, plastics etc?
my knowledge is rather limited, suppose any potential variables could affect test results.


might have found a easy work around to making graphene there it seems.
well done!


here is something i just found, trying to find the electrical conductivity of wax to see what effects it could have on what makes up the burnt carbons compositon.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0196890412002865

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Re: Amazing graphene super capacitor!
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2015, 03:44:58 AM »
...messing with the candle and then I realized the black deposit of the smoke from the flame could be some kind of Graphene?...
I've seen some of the Keshe builds use this. He heats up a copper wire to cover it in the black soot stuff. Don't know if his builds are real or not.