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Offline scratchrobot

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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #75 on: December 28, 2012, 11:56:59 AM »
Red used what seems a pile of big speaker magnets? He also used 5 microwave capacitors in series, if I had them i would do the experiment myself.


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« Reply #76 on: December 28, 2012, 04:11:28 PM »
Red used what seems a pile of big speaker magnets?
That is much more likely. Generally, these ceramic magnets are much cheaper, larger and provide much lower flux density than NdFeB magnets.
Also, ceramic magnets are electrically non-conductive and have low magnetic permeability, thus they are not limited by the skin effect.

Finally, some ceramic formulations may contain beta emitters.


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« Reply #77 on: December 29, 2012, 01:19:26 AM »
could be magnets from a magnetron out of microwave ovens.
the ones i have read about 1 meg ohm depending where i'm at on the surface.
any ideas as to what they are made of?

but they seem to be smaller than the ones in mustafa's images and videos.
the image looks closer to speaker magnets i have.
the speaker magnets i've extracted have no measurable conductivity anywhere.

wonder what cергей b. was referring to in his reply to elementSix with the neos.



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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #78 on: December 29, 2012, 01:25:59 AM »
could be magnets from a magnetron out of microwave ovens.
the ones i have read about 1 meg ohm depending where i'm at on the surface.
any ideas as to what they are made of?
...the speaker magnets i've extracted have no measurable conductivity anywhere.
Those ceramic magnets could be made out of:
a) Strontium Ferrite
b) Barium Ferrite
c) Cobalt Ferrite

Speaker magnets are usually case b.
Some types of ferrite can be differentiated by their color, hardness, resistivity, coercivity, remanence, Curie temp. and density.
Most likely simple acid tests can be performed to chemically determine strontium/barium/cobalt content.
I don't know all of their properties by heart, so more research is in order.

but they seem to be smaller than the ones in Mustafa's images and videos. The image looks closer to speaker magnets i have.
Too small diameter or improper direction of magnetization will disqualify many magnets for this application.
It is a safer bet to choose larger magnets, that are magnetized "through the thickness"

wonder what Cергей B. was referring to in his reply to elementSix with the neos.
Perhaps he thought that stronger magnets are always better. It is not always so.

@yfree
I wonder which ceramic magnet composition (cobalt/barium/strontium ferrite) would be more amendable to the hypothesized "beta multiplication" ?


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« Reply #79 on: December 29, 2012, 02:13:12 AM »
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but they seem to be smaller than the ones in mustafa's images and videos.
the image looks closer to speaker magnets i have.
the speaker magnets i've extracted have no measurable conductivity anywhere.

wonder what cергей b. was referring to in his reply to elementSix with the neos.

As far as I know, the image of the magnet comes from RED, not Mustafa.
There are no images or videos from Mustafa, as yet.
The schematic of Mustafa's device was drawn by FreeEnergyInfo (Antanas) on the basis of a conversation with him.
Magnets are not mentioned there, just two transformers.

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« Reply #79 on: December 29, 2012, 02:13:12 AM »
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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #80 on: December 29, 2012, 04:59:44 AM »
It seems it would need strong field.  The stronger the magnetic field the stronger the responce.  But the main thing is uniformity.  You need a very even distribution of the field.  Couldn't you just use very fine wire wrapped coil for the magnetic field?  Like 1000 turn coil thats wrapped over the other coils.

Has anyone looked at the Zilano posts.  That chick seemed very involved in helping others get the device made right and the resonance or the L1 and L2 the same.

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« Reply #81 on: December 29, 2012, 06:03:41 AM »
I know everyone has seen these schematics, but they seem to know what they are talking about and have gotten results.  My problem is money, but also I don't have the right equipment like signal generators.  Can some please look into this and let us know.  Or if you know someone that you can trust that has done the experament and you know that they have and can tell us about it.  These are from the Russian TK website.

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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #82 on: December 29, 2012, 05:17:25 PM »
The stronger the magnetic field the stronger the response.
Higher magnetic flux density is not always better, because it leads to smaller Lorentz orbits, higher frequencies and consequently to higher losses from the skin-effect.

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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #83 on: December 29, 2012, 06:05:31 PM »
Hi all,

This thread got me thinking if a magnetic maser/paramagnetic amplifier could be made for power production. Have a paramagnetic rod made of maganese/iron, wrap with two coils and cap the ends with diamagnetic material bismuth/pyrolytic graphite to cause reflection of the magnetic field back into the rod. Then pulse one coil while seeing what kind of waveform you get back on the second. Something interesting to try maybe?

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« Reply #84 on: December 29, 2012, 08:05:32 PM »
Nice try. You are trying to substitute the photons in a LASER or MASER by magnetic field.

But magnetic field does not travel like photons thus it cannot be reflected between the bismuth mirrors to do anything more in the gain medium (not that Bi is an effective diamagnetic anyway).

The closest idea to yours is McFreey's BASER, which uses high speed electrons (or positrons) in place of photons. Electrons are traveling particles, too. In the BASER they are not confined in the gain medium by mirrors, but by a "magnetic bottle".


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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #84 on: December 29, 2012, 08:05:32 PM »
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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #85 on: December 30, 2012, 06:59:35 AM »
Привет всем !!

to Neo-X
Yes. Video and public presentation will not be on any forum. Guess why ??

scratchrobot
Yes. Red used magnets inside of the coil. Magnets are from CB radio startion big antenna holder. Very probably neodymium magnets.

to elementSix
There are many Russian guys on this forum but only few of them made posts

to Magluvin

Mustafs used 2 different power transformers T1 is 270w and T2 is 3kw. You can use big welding transformer as T2. It's not  necessary to have exactly 30v on output. Main thing is Resonance on 50Hz and proper triggering of thyristor when voltage pass through zero. Use high voltage high power thyristor. The speed of componet here play second role.

to verpies

No, Mustafa don't use magnets at all. only power transformers. Look carefully in his schematic. On the first look it's very simple schematic but.......
Including that you verpies have some appropriate equipment and pretty good understanding of physical processes you should start with analizing and researching this schematic. This is an "Anomaly" schematic. Thanks to anomaly we can get OU. You will see yourself than you start pulsing thyristor switch on zero passing envelope.
I hope you will get Overunity and present all on this and many other world Free Energy forums. When you finish maybe i will give you one "Very anomaly"schematic. This schematic is another proof that we don't know anything about very tiny physical processes or in a two words we are out of reality. So maybe you catch a glory like "Anomaly hunter"

Just kidding !! :D

Mustafa topic is here:

http://www.realstrannik.ru/forum/48-temy-freeenergylt-antanasa/101936-mustafa-ustanovka.html


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Re: TK device, TPU.. Only enter if you seek truth. Cause here it is...
« Reply #86 on: December 30, 2012, 07:50:42 AM »


to Magluvin

Mustafs used 2 different power transformers T1 is 270w and T2 is 3kw. You can use big welding transformer as T2. It's not  necessary to have exactly 30v on output. Main thing is Resonance on 50Hz and proper triggering of thyristor when voltage pass through zero. Use high voltage high power thyristor. The speed of componet here play second role.


Thanks C.  When I saw 3kw from the seconds transformer, it had to be so. And with the first transformer, as much as it takes in input, no sense in using a 3kw transformer there. ;)   Not many of those 3kw transformers laying around. ;)

Mags


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« Reply #87 on: December 30, 2012, 08:00:12 AM »
From the original scope shot or drawing of when the switching device pulses, at each zero crossing, it is when the output of the second transformer is in high current flow. The switching device loads that current into the cap, and when the switch releases, that cap voltage dumps into the load. Measuring the input of T1 should show a spike at the time of switching also.

I ran it on a sim and was able to produce 2.5 to 3 kw spikes on the load, but the input spikes were around 150 to 200w. There may be something to this.  ;)

Mags

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« Reply #88 on: December 30, 2012, 12:25:45 PM »
I dip in here occasionally to see what's going on.... interesting stuff. Reminds me of this self-resonant, self-triggering circuit that makes spikes on the zero-crossings.
First image:
Top trace is drain signal from switching mosfet showing the "output" spikes at 200 volts per division; they reach to well over 400 volts. Bottom trace is pickup from a probe _not connected_ to the circuit but connected to a piece of aluminum foil hanging about 20 cm away from the secondary resonator, shown at 20 V/div.
The system detects the secondary's oscillations in the field and makes the spike at the zero-crossing, which is fed to the primary, which stimulates the secondary to oscillate at its resonant frequency.
Second image is the DC input to the system, a little over 50 W. The secondary's output voltage is over 20 kV.... but low current. Still, the peak output power is very high .... unfortunately the _average_ output power doesn't exceed the input.
My system isn't perfectly tuned yet, the pulsing isn't happening exactly at the zero crossing so I'm not getting completely accurate resonant stimulation yet. I think it's now a matter of careful tuning of circuit inductances to get the triggering happening at exactly the right time, and with as sharp/short pulse as possible. This will maximize the VRSWR and the output power.... but I will still be very "shocked" if the output exceeds the input!

Anyhow... sorry if this diversion is too far off the "mark".....  ;)
Carry on......
-TK


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« Reply #89 on: December 31, 2012, 01:27:59 AM »
Has anyone checked out that NULL detector on the previous page thta I posted.  Any thoughts on if thats what is needed to pulse thyritors on Zero Crossing??

Thanks for input Magluvin....

It's a hard translation but, the info on Kapandze setup is good but you need a much  better translater than google..
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fhalerman.narod.ru%2FTTCG%2FKapanadze.htm

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