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« Last Edit: October 23, 2007, 10:38:59 AM by FreeEnergy »

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9/11 truth movement topic
« on: August 01, 2006, 12:08:06 PM »

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2006, 08:33:43 PM »
Wow, that is the best documentation I have ever seen about the 9/11 untruth...

This evidence is the best I have seen so far !
the Twin towers were destroyed probably by bomb explosions and
the Pentagon was probably hit by a cruise missile, not a plane !

I also always wondered back at this date myself, how the side
buildings of the Twin towers Center 7 or how it was called , did crash ?
When they showed this that day on TV it looked exactly
as if it was demolitioned with explosives and not from
the debris of the twin towers !

Watch this, it will open your eyes...
get as soon as you can before Google will take it off.
Download the GVI files, convert it to DVD and donate it to all your friends !
« Last Edit: August 01, 2006, 11:18:38 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2006, 08:56:03 PM »
Guess that's why he postponed the 2008 Election.

Beginnings of a dictatorship after 9/11.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060731/cm_thenation/20060814gillers

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2006, 12:30:19 AM »
From:
http://0911.site.voila.fr/

Saturday, July 08, 2006
Pentagon eyewitness IDs Global Hawk

Audio report from Republic Broadcasting Network.
http://mp3.rbnlive.com/Piper/0607/20060707_Fri_Piper.mp3
Summaries via LibertyForum July 7, 2006


"Christopher Bollyn, American Free Press, reports:

Samuel Danner (electrical engineer for AmTrak),
was involved in the clean-up at the Pentagon crash site
and inspected the debris at the site.

He said, "It was not a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon.

The plane looked like a hump-back whale."
He thinks a Global Hawk hit the Pentagon.
(There were only seven made as of 9/11/01
and two were missing at the time.)

Danner is a former pilot.
He said the aircraft that hit the Pentagon was very quiet
with one engine near the back.
He also saw a second plane overhead
and wonders if it was controlling the plane that hit the Pentagon.

He walked the lawn and picked up small pieces of debris with others.
He did not see any bodies from the aircraft.

Danner is very ill now with lymphoma,
which may be the result of DU exposure at the Pentagon on 9/11.

He wants to talk now (after seeing "Loose Change")
because "it's been bugging me."

The Global Hawk fired a DU missile that penetrated the thick concrete
wall of the Pentagon.
DU was detected at the time and workers on the scene later in the day
wore protective equipment.


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Yep, this 53-yr old Sam Danner, a pilot since the age of 16,
was a first-hand observer of the crash.
He pulled his car over to the south of the pentagon
on the right side of 395 when he saw the approach of the plane
that hit the pentagon.

He also observed a bunch of guys outside the pentagon
standing there looking through binoculars.

He got a good view of the plane's approach,
for a duration of at least three seconds.
He says that the plane was not a 757, no way.

"It was like a humpback whale" he says. . . .
one engine on the backside with a "V" tail and no windows
he could see. And it was very quiet.

Going about 400mph. Overhead, at an estimated 15,000 feet
he saw another plane.

As an EMT, he ran over to help at the pentagon,
but found no bodies,
no wreckage from a boeing aircraft on the scene.
He smelled cordite and he saw a 3-foot single engine
on the ground there.

He picked up graphite pieces similar to the composite wings
on a global hawk.

This engine matches the description of the single engine of a globalhawk.
The globalhawk is a UAV (unmanned aerial vehicle)
but could not have caused the damage if it wasn't containing
a bunker-busting missle deployed on impact.

The plane observed overhead might have been the plane controlling
the remotely-controlled mission.

If a 757 had crashed into the pentagon,
then there would have been aluminum all over the grass
and two 9-foot diameter engines.

http://www.total911.info/2006/07/pentagon-eyewitness-ids-global-hawk.html





Tuesday, September 11, 2001; 4:59 PM


Steve Patterson, 43, said he was watching television reports of the World Trade Center being hit
when he saw a silver commuter jet fly past the window of his 14th-floor apartment in Pentagon City.

The plane was about 150 yards away,
approaching from the west about 20 feet off the ground, Patterson said.
He said the plane, which sounded like the high-pitched squeal of a fighter jet,
flew over Arlington cemetary so low that he thought it was going to land on I-395.

It was flying so fast that he couldn't read any writing on the side.
The plane, which appeared to hold about eight to 12 people,
headed straight for the Pentagon but was flying
as if coming in for a landing on a nonexistent runway, Patterson said.

"At first I thought 'God, there's a plane truly misrouted from National,'"
"Then this thing just became part of the Pentagon ...
I was watching the World Trade Center go and then this. What's next?"

He said the plane, which approached the Pentagon below treetop level,
seemed to be flying normally for a plane coming in for a landing
other than going very fast for being so low.

Then, he said, he saw the Pentagon "envelope" the plane
and bright orange flames shoot out the back of the building.

By Barbara Vobejda
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, September 11, 2001; 4:59 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/metro/daily/sep01/attack.html



Don Perkal   
Even before stepping outside I could smell the cordite.
Then I knew explosives had been set off somewhere.
http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2001/09/19perkal.html



Gilah Goldsmith 
We saw a huge black cloud of smoke, she said,
saying it smelled like cordite, or gun smoke.
www.guardian.co.uk/wtccrash/story/0,1300,550486,00.html



Asked if there were unreleased photographs of the attack that would convince the doubters,
Zelikow, of the 9/11 commission, said, "No."
(of course, because they can't...)

"The question of whether American 77 hit the Pentagon is indisputable," Zelikow said.
(really? lol...)
"One reason you tend to doubt conspiracy theories when you've worked in government
is because you know government is not nearly competent enough to carry off elaborate theories.
It's a banal explanation, but imagine how efficient it would need to be."
(conspiracy theories, moronic automatic phrase association, blabla virtualising facts with words...
nuts equation: conspiracy + theories -> conspiracies are theories

sliding about possibility & fact that when it's not a theory... it's indeed a conspiracy. )
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A13059-2004Oct6?language=printer



at least... the "independant" "commission" didn't see any of the other pentagon videos & documents,
showing the 757 in question...
this kind of "commission" can't be serious...

check the "vigilant guardian" (the worse named) operation...
a part of the whole thing.



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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2006, 02:39:56 AM »
This is really the biggest scam and cover up I have seen during the last years.
Go to:
http://question911.com/linksall.htm

and download all the videos and get the word out to all your friends !

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2006, 06:36:13 AM »
Here is a free tool to convert the Google GVI format directly to AVI:

http://www.naevius.com/gvi_converter.htm

Get it and copy it to DVDs and spread it to your friends !
« Last Edit: August 02, 2006, 09:12:54 PM by hartiberlin »

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2006, 10:56:57 AM »
Wow, this is really getting a SUPER FRAUD !

The evidence is overwhelming, that the 3 WTC buildings were brought down
by controlled demolition !

Especially the fine dust would only occur from controlled demolition explosions !

Also you can see the single explosions, one after the other,
floor after the next floor,
clearly on a few wittness tapes and the
steel is flying horizontally away as only controlled demolition explosions can have caused it !

If the pancake theory would have taken place it would have taken at least
45 seconds or more to come down and concrete steel frames would have still stood
inside the center of WTC 1 and 2 !

Also WTC 7 was admitted by Larry Silverstein to have been "brought down",
so have been "pulled down" which in other words is a controlled demolition !

So, who planted all the explosives in the 3 WTC buildings ?

It must have been tons of explosives hidden there and it was
proved that days before there were drillings inside the buildings and
explosive sniffer dogs were removed !

Why were the wrackage removed from the scene so fast and shipped to Asia and remelted,
before anyone could have a look at it ???

This whole case stinks enormously !

There MUST BE  A NEW INVESTIGATION  and all the political consequences
are still to be coming up....!

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #7 on: August 02, 2006, 02:02:56 PM »
also http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I

EDIT - the above link has been updated
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 10:04:58 AM by FreeEnergy »

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #8 on: August 02, 2006, 04:33:51 PM »
Now i really wish I could listen to these here at work :P Guess I'll have to watch it all at home if i ever get the time :P

My biggest question is why? Why would the US gov. want to do something like this? The only thing that I can come up with is a way to justify the wars overseas to the american public. It's a dirty blow, but it's the only thing that makes any sense. Anyone else have any theories?

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #9 on: August 02, 2006, 05:24:55 PM »
Motive?

Read the "Project for a new American Century."  (Google PNAC)
This was written by Cheney, Rumsfield, Pearl, and the rest of the nazi mafia in 2000.  It outlines plans for a global empire and mentions the need for a new pearl harbor.

Plans for the war in afghanistan were already underway before 9/11.  The reason is that the taliban refused a deal to let Unical build a pipeline across afghanistan... AND, they burned the poppy fields.
Since the US invasion... they have installed a unical executive as the puppet president... and the poppy fields are  back in operation (with the DIA and CIA transporting drugs out of the country).

Add to that... the insurance money silverstein got.  Just on WTC 7 he got $500 million over his investment.
Of course, this was his payment for his involvment... he had to be told.

WTC 7 also housed records on SEC investigations... one of those was Bush's insider trading at Harkin energy.

But the ultimate prize was the overthrow of the constitutional republic in America.  The USA Patriot Act... written in advance... effectively gives dictorial powers to the president.  This was passed overwhelmingly in the wake of 9/11.
Resistance to this legislation was defeated with the anthrax attacks (remember those?) on Democratic congressional leaders and journalists.  The anthrax was traced to a US military stockpile in Maryland.  The investigation went nowhere... probably supressed from the top.

Another piece of information that is not in these films is the recent discovery of traces of explosives found at the WTC site.

To the international members of this community - it is imperative that you spread the word in your countries, and that you demand the world do something about this.

America is now 1930's Germany.  Remember, Hitler was elected and made himself dictator.  9/11 was Bush's Reichstag.  Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it.

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2006, 06:39:44 PM »
Elvis,

In my opinion, that is the reaction that the world controllers want you to have.
The real goal of making the US to look like the out of control nation (similar to 1938 Germany) that needs to be taken down, is to ultimately disarm the American public.  (Since the US government has not been successful in doing this through unlawful legislation coming from the United Nations, not that they haven't tried to do their best to make 'laws' to disarm the American public to be in line with UN policy). 

Knowing that the US public wouldn't allow a disarming, wouldn't it make sense that they would purposely then make the US to look like an enemy of the world, an out of control nation, so they could stir up and justify the disarming of the US public with a world wide attack on the US through choking the economy of the US with sanctions?  Why else would so many companies in the US outsource, but to help this process along, and to escape the financial downfall?  This would be a big mistake to think that nations turning against the US with sanctions or an attack would be beneficial for the people of the US and for freedom world wide.  It would only play into world government plans for complete world control by trying to take out the only real resistance left to total world wide control through the attempted disarming of the US public (the only real opposition left in their way). 

We must look beyond, and see why they are doing the things that they are doing, not just be reactionary and fall into their well thought out plan to try to make the US look like the enemy of the world, for the purpose of disarming the US public. 

It is important to think smartly from a world controllers perspective on what they need to accomplish in the US to obtain unhindered world control.  Without opposition of an armed public in the US, that could stand against world control, it will be much easier for the small global elite to maintain a strong hold on world control without any possible opposition with the disarming of the US public.  That, I believe is their real goal and one that should be resisted for freedom's sake, and for the sake of the freedom of the world.

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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2006, 08:48:52 PM »
also http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3143048862360929736

When you listen to this video it is disgusting,
how Penn and Teller behave and use the words "fuck" ,"asshole", "stupid" "jerk", etc...

This is total disinformation and all arguments about 9/11 are easily refutable
with the Loose Change video.
Especially the fine dust and all the explosions that have been
there , that will only come from controlled demolition
and the complete crash of WTC 7 without a plane crash is the evidence,
that Penn and Teller are probably paid by L. Silverstein.

Also already by looking at Penn and Teller, would you give them or loan them your money,
if they would tell you they have a good opportunity to make money ??
You could also do it down the drain, if you would do....


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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2006, 09:19:15 PM »
If you looking for documented video about 9/11, and other false flag operations as they are called.

Look at Terrorstorm. A new Alex Jones film which shows the news article or documentation before displaying the
evidence. Goes through 7-7, 911...
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-4757274759497686216&q=terrorstorm

Alex Jones and the 911 conference was just on CSPAN http://www.c-span.org/
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5004704309041471296&q=alex+jones+cspan

yes George Bush is a satanist. http://www.infowars.com/bg1.html
also http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-82095917705734983&q=bohemian+grove
This video shook me a lot.
He actually snuck in to the grove and saw all the satanic symbols,mock child sacrifice and Owl worshipping.
The most powerful people attend there in California every year. Sitting presidents don't usually go.

Another great video is to watch the cia attempted coup of Hugo Chavez.
Very interesting to see the media in the US support a coup of a democratically elected leader.
http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-5793200611323299754&q=hugo+chavez








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Re: 9/11 truth movement topic
« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2006, 09:25:40 PM »
Here it is:
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf

Search for
Pearl Harbour

and then go to page 58,
you see the unmanned radio controlled Black Hawk plane !
Is this just a coincident ?
« Last Edit: August 03, 2006, 01:35:16 AM by hartiberlin »

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« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2006, 12:04:41 AM »
I am so repulsed by this whole thread I am deleting myself as a member of this site.  It has nothing to do with the purpose of this site and is all complete drivel.  Ask the relatives of the people who died in those planes whether or not they hit those towers.

I don't know if my posts will remain, but if not, oh well.

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