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Title: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: eugene.alternative.energy on November 15, 2012, 10:11:15 PM
Hello everybody! There has been a lot of information circulating the web on tesla radiant energy collectors and the means of creating those apparatus. I have been working on some radiant energy designs myself, having tried the standard rectification bridge for antenna and ground, to using a greinacher voltage quadrupler rectifier, and experimenting with all the different kinds of antenna, as well as adding inductors and capacitors in various locations in my circuits.

I read that one simple way to make a tesla radiant energy collector is to simply use a tesla coil with loose coupling leading to a collector circuit!Thus, my new experiment has taken to fruit, and I am proud to announce I have modified this basic building block of radiant energy transmit and capture to bring you: The bipolar tesla radiant energy capture circuit!

It is a bipolar tesla coil with a graphite sparkgap bringing both the ground and top load of the standard tesla coil together. The radiant energy circuit is loosely coupled to a bipolar tesla coil secondary!

This current design I am going to show you is a mock up and collaboration of various experiments I have preformed at home. I figured that I should share the current circuit design to anybody who might be interested. It utilizes both a villard quadrupler full-wave cascade and a greinacher voltage quadrupler all tied together in parallel and sharing a common ground.

The top two inductors in the picture are bifilar spirals, and the bottom inductor is a regular air core inductor with loose coupling to condensers and then fed into a step up transformer for utilization by the radiant energy collector circuit. There is definitely work to be done here, such as a pickup coil on the secondary to help with self oscillation and a virtual ground to make the device more useful when a true ground is unavailable.

Utilizing a joule thief with JFET switching and a super capacitor to store and smooth the joule thief output could make this circuit quite useful for pulsed DC output to an inverter!

This is basically a bipolar tesla coil with a radiant energy capture hooked up to it. Note how the ground is kept separate from the tesla coil antenna...

This circuit does not utilize a battery, instead it utilizes kilovolt caps to store and smooth the output from the bipolar tesla coil.

Here is a picture...
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: Neo-X on November 16, 2012, 09:11:35 AM
Where is the spark gap here?
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: e2matrix on November 16, 2012, 07:03:27 PM
I'm not clear as to what is supplying power here.  Is it completely supplied from just an antenna and ground - i.e. not batteries or power supplies once caps are charged?   What sort of power out is it creating if you have built this already? 
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: eugene.alternative.energy on November 17, 2012, 04:38:13 AM
Where is the spark gap here?

The spark gap is at the top (The two +V arrow looking labels), where the two ball-breakouts on a bipolar tesla coil would be, and they are graphite, about 2mm gap between them
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: eugene.alternative.energy on November 17, 2012, 04:52:04 AM
I'm not clear as to what is supplying power here.  Is it completely supplied from just an antenna and ground - i.e. not batteries or power supplies once caps are charged?   What sort of power out is it creating if you have built this already?

Like all of the tesla radiant energy collectors I have seen on the internet, antenna conducts to ground, either directly or indirectly; The power is coming from the secondary of the bipolar tesla coil (I.E., Antenna), both from positive ions flowing through the wire of the secondary (Conducting indirectly to ground), thus creating a magnetic flux; Also, energy is coming from external EM sources of high potential alternating currents that interact with the air coil inductor of the secondary. This device outputs DC from the rectification circuits (Both greinacher and villard [full-wave]) and that DC can be pulsed for use in a joule theif, etc... (With the aim of powering an LED or charging a cell phone...). This current schematic is purely a compilation of various experiments I have worked on, I am still waiting on parts to arrive to build this specific design, although I have build one quite similar using one greinacher and one standard rectifier bridge, which self charges to one volt in about 6-8 minutes, depending on the weather and how much traffic is outside (Yes, traffic affects the capture of radiant energy! [Presumably, big metal bodies conduct the energy away from the apparatus...]) There is no battery, all energy flows into the graphite spark gap at the top (The two +V in the arrow looking labels) and also alternating polarity waves (Radio, etc...) are conducted by the bifilar coils and the secondary towards the primaries, which smooth the AC and step up the voltage into the capture circuit.

So as I said, I haven't built this yet, still waiting on parts to arrive, but it should work decent, especially if the device is an elevated terminal with comparison to ground! (I have used a similar config, non-elevated with no comparison ('connection') to ground, and it still charged to half a volt in no time (Less than 4 minutes to charge to .5VDC) My current prototype charges to .2VDC in 25-30 seconds with no comparison to ground.

For more info, look into bi-polar tesla coils, and also look up how to create a radiant energy receiver with a tesla coil; That should get those interested in this basic design going in the right direction.

If you want to build this, you will need germanium diodes and KV capacitors, as well as a half meter or so air-core inductor for the secondary and two bifilar spirals (Coils) if you can find them. If you cant find them, then just make two more 1/4 meter or so air-core inductors and wrap them in a bifilar fashion. Hope that helps!

I got most of this info from looking at Nikola Tesla patents on the web :D

Another way to build this would be to simply use two greinacher circuits (Left hand collector circuit) with their DC outputs tied together and drop the villard quadrupler cascade (Right hand circuit), but I like the villard cascade, as it seems to increase the max voltage the system will gather up to.

Also, I omitted the ground on the villard quadrupler (Where -V is) since if it is tied to the greinacher rectifier, the AC from ground should be able to pass through the 'bottom-left-hand capacitor' without shorting any of the capacitors...

Will post pics and a vid when I get this totally built up!
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: eugene.alternative.energy on November 17, 2012, 05:27:39 AM
Here is a picture of an alternative setup, without the villard quadrupler full-wave cascade.

This was just a note I made on my android phone, and the capacitor the top of the secondary was just to signify a capacitance of the air-gap between the spark gap. There is no bifilar coil on this diagram. This picture doesn't superceed my original picture, it is merely a side-note to help illustrate what exactly is going on here. I made this as a brief reference, so if it doesn't work as good as the original circuit I posted, there is the reason why.

Perhaps an adjustable capacitor might be useful though instead of a sparkgap. The power supply in the picture I am attaching is just to illustrate that power is flowing in from 'somewhere'...

I have tested this setup (minus the capacitor and power supply on the secondary; with loose coupling 5 turns of copper coming off the secondary instead of a 4:1 step-up transformer...) and it does indeed charge capacitors at a relatively fast rate. It depends on the capacitors used, although as a standard, I am just now starting to use 1KV 4.7 NF capacitors for all my radiant energy circuits...

The attached picture is just a side note/reference...

Also see::
http://amasci.com/tesla/tmistk.html
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapt7.html
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: eugene.alternative.energy on November 17, 2012, 06:19:12 AM
I just figured I would get another schematic out on the web to help those who are technically inclined to draw a bit of inspiration for their designs! ;)

I understand this is not the ideal setup (Due to the minimal amounts of power production involved), but it is a start!

Might be useful for a radiant energy collector from a tesla coil for a school experiment or something... :D
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: e2matrix on November 17, 2012, 07:16:35 AM
Thanks for the additional info.   Nice work.   I do believe Tesla's patent 685957 can be expanded on and real usable power can be obtained by that basis.  Good luck with the project. 
Title: Re: Bipolar Tesla Coil Radiant Energy Collector
Post by: eugene.alternative.energy on November 27, 2012, 05:30:05 AM
Here is a working one I just made that puts out around 0.7-0.8vdc on my multimeter.

Yet another example of bipolar tesla collector config. This is my demo for the front room to show it off to people! :D

Germanium rectifier bridge.
5KV ceramic caps; the caps for the collector uses a number of caps tied in parallel, I used ten.

I found that different value caps across the primary and across the "bridge" boosted the circuit in different ways. Remember that caps pass ac while maintaining dc polarity! I think it is a nifty device. It utilizes potential difference between the two tesla coils and ground. Also works great "floating", or, not connected to ground. The flat sheet is aluminium electret. The round sphere is aluminum tesla coil ball.

Another one to try is pyrite cat whisker rectifier and mica caps! Just a thought!