Thanks Bruce,
I will look into the Canola oil
I don't have a way to get a temp reading from in between the drive discs, so I am not sure how high the temp is getting. I can only get the temp off of the top of the oil in the core. The smoke temp of the oil I am using is 450F and I am clearly smoking it,... it turned it into a dark brown sludge.
I really just don't want to use anything but 100% non toxic easily made oils. {at lest for now}
I will make my mods to the core and take some pics and a video then post them in the next 48 hours.

I am still working on the tooling for the testing models as well.
But I must keep my house warm first and foremost so the one for my house takes precedence.

 

Hi Gabriel,
well done.

What is the distance from disc to disc ?
So they are magnetized ? North to South ?

Does it also work without magnetosation ? Did you test this yet ?

Do you also put something into the oil additionally ?

What kind of oil (brand and product number) did you use until now ?

Why are you so sure that you don´t produce any cavitation effects there ?

When did you get this overunity heat when you changed what parameters ?
( You probably built the first prototypes with not so much heat output as now, so
you probably know, what makes it now much better ??)

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

Hello Stefan,

And thank you.

{Q} 1) "What is the distance from disc to disc ?"

{A} 0.0625

{Q} 2) "So they are magnetized ? North to South ?"

{A} Yes they are but only very lightly, they are set up in N,S,N,S

{Q} 3) "Does it also work without magnetosation ? Did you test this yet ?"

{A} Yes it does work very well without magnetizing them, on my first testing I ran both setups but with the magnetized discs I got a few more degrees out of the heater.

{Q} 4) "Do you also put something into the oil additionally ?"

{A} I only use 100% organic soy bean oils.

{Q} 5) "What kind of oil (brand and product number) did you use until now ?"

{A} I sill am using the same oils but I looking into using refined white mineral oil. It states that it has a smoke temp of 750F but we will see.

{Q} 6) "Why are you so sure that you don´t produce any cavitation effects there ?"

{A} My design is in such a way to not allow for and micro vacuum or any void to be produced as it runs.

{Q} 7) "When did you get this overunity heat when you changed what parameters ?

{A} On my 2nd build is when I got this Friction heater to work as it is. I had to change everything from my 1rst build, it when into the scrap bin.

{Q} " You probably built the first prototypes with not so much heat output as now, so you probably know, what makes it now much better ?

{A} I have learned a lot from this build from the start till now.... and I am still learning. I could make a book from everything I have learned at this point.

Thank you
Gabriel

{Q} " You probably built the first prototypes with not so much heat output as now, so you probably know, what makes it now much better ?

{A} I have learned a lot from this build from the start till now.... and I am still learning. I could make a book from everything I have learned at this point.

Thank you
Gabriel

Hi Gabriel,
yes, would be great, if you could write an ebook and sell it or just give it away freely, what you like...
if you have the time for this.

Probably  you still want first to finish your build completely for youself and heating your house with it.

You new build looks great !


Regards, Stefan.

To compare efficiency, I found the following numbers.   3-ton Goodman heat pump.  The kw's are for the outside unit only.

60F, 2.86 kw
50F, 2.75 kw
40F, 2.64 kw
 
Gabriel's Friction Heater
.860 KW
Cheers,
 
Bruce

500W no load electric motor consume , 600W load electric motor consume :
the difference means heater consume as load ergo : 100W ,

this is your calculation,oilpiggy - or not ?

wmkr
         CdL

p.s.: oilpiggy wrote about 120sqm heating area and calculating with 20 ° temperature difference and conventional
        floor/wall/roof/window/door isolation I would estimate the heat energy consume with  10KW per hour
       
       source: http://www.sonnenkoenig.ch/halogenstrahler/asetid/824/product/junior.html 
       in red:"Waermebedarf" heat calculation

Dear Gabriel

Thank you for sharing you impressive heater and congrats for your machine.

Your new running video with heating up versus time would allow some rough calculations, if you could give
- the approx mass of the steel vessel in Kilogramm. Assumption: 20 kg
- the approx volume or mass of oil filled in. Assumption: 6 kg


Heating Power [W] = mp [kg/s] * cp [kJ/kg K] * dT [K]

With your data: Heating up from 70 F to 200 F in 24 min:

20kg / (24*60s) * 500 J/kg K * (200F - 70F)/1.8F/K = 500 W for heating up the steel vessel
6kg / (24*60s) * 2000J/kg K * (200F - 70F)/1.8F/K = 602 W for heating up the oil
additionally the surrounding is already heating up ...

Regards
cubalibre

500W no load electric motor consume , 600W load electric motor consume :
the difference means heater consume as load ergo : 100W ,

this is your calculation,oilpiggy - or not ?

wmkr
         CdL

p.s.: oilpiggy wrote about 120sqm heating area and calculating with 20 ° temperature difference and conventional
        floor/wall/roof/window/door isolation I would estimate the heat energy consume with  10KW per hour
       
       source: http://www.sonnenkoenig.ch/halogenstrahler/asetid/824/product/junior.html 
       in red:"Waermebedarf" heat calculation

Hello,

Yes that was the old system.