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Author Topic: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?  (Read 26762 times)

Offline evolvingape

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2012, 07:20:05 PM »
Hi Powercat,

We can build a generator on your system principles.

How about a push bike with it's great gearing system and built in freewheel assembly. Magnetically couple that to an impeller in a linear shaft and pump water around a closed system.

Now put magnets on the impeller and coils at 90 degrees and you have your generator(s).

Wire an AC electrode boiler into your coil circuit and you can heat the water and pump it at the same time.

A bicycle water heating system that can be alternatively powered by anything you want, even a 96%er.

Rob  ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternator

http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_10/2.html
 

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2012, 07:20:05 PM »

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2012, 07:53:21 PM »
Hi Rob,
having investigated the idea, mainly as I have never seen this type of motor before now,
It is clear to me that it will not eliminate drag and produce free energy,
Which is my main reason for being on this forum all these years, as for my own energy needs
I use over a kilowatt of solar panels to running my laptop TV and occasional other appliances.

Solar panels so far are the only device I have ever found that produces free power,once paid for of course.
BTW there are some amazing deals on the ebay if you are buying very big panels.


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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2012, 09:08:44 PM »
Hi All,

Here is another mechanical method of accelerating a mass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5X1dFuxUQ0I

Hi Powercat,

I'm in the same boat. Even though I use solar for light duty stuff, I'm still looking for something to get rid of the batteries and the down time at night. Always searching and testing crazy stuff.

Hi Rob,

You gave me an idea, if you replace the plastic cylinder with a copper cylinder I wonder if the motor will squeal and get hot if you try to use it as a eddy heater. The magnet would roll inside the copper cylinder, the motor will be partially decoupled. The magnet would get hot probably and demagnetize unless there is separating layer, a plastic layer then a copper outer layer. hmmm... :)

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2012, 11:13:05 PM »
Hi DreamThinkBuild,

I do not fully understand your question.  You say you replace the spinning magnets  with a generator or alternator head, my question is you meant the spinning magnets which are rolling between the two parallel wheels on the rims, right?
And you use bearings at the two ends of the gen head's shaft and in fact the bearings would roll on the rims, the shaft of the generator  would not rotate,  i.e. the outside body of the generator would turn?  If yes then what would turn the outside body?
Sorry for my hardheadedness...   
I show you a picture from Filipiak video, I indicated the bearing on the right hand side rolling on the rim and you replace the cylindrical magnet body in the middle (which is just pointed at) with the gen head?

Thanks,  Gyula


Hi Gyula,

Thanks for the link to Mr. Filiak's setup. I like what he did with his design. I'm wondering if you could replace the spinning magnets with a alternator or generator head. Have it suspended on a shaft rolling on the larger wheel using the weight of itself. Using bearings and framework it can be held so the axis of the generator doesn't rotate, like a seat on a Ferris wheel.


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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2012, 03:45:27 PM »
Hi Gyula,

The idea is like a Ferris wheel where the seat always remains on a fixed axis. I attached a simple mockup. The generator becomes the seat. The weight of the generator would have to be greater than the load or it will flip. When the large outer wheel is turning the small shafts will want to ride up one side of the cylinder but the heavy generator will always be trying to pull down forcing the generator head to turn. So we use the weight of the generator itself to help aid turning the generator head.

In theory anyways. :)

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #34 on: October 23, 2012, 03:45:27 PM »
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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #35 on: October 23, 2012, 09:02:29 PM »
Hi DreamThinkBuild,

Oh,  now it is ok I got it.  However, we do not know from the Filipiak patent application http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Synchronous-magneto-electric-motor/WO2007081229.html  how big role the magnets and iron included in the small rotor (what you wish to replace with the generator head, see PDF page #2) play in the total operation, together with gravitation. And remember the magnets and the iron pieces in the two big wheel rotors too and the role of the magnetic syncronizer which is not detailed but it is possible that in the right moments the syncronizer establishes a useful flux exchange between the big wheels and the small rotor, this all may contribute to the claimed higher output.  This is but a guess from me of course but if you omit these parts and effects and use a gen head instead then the operation clearly reduces to the help of the gravity only. 
Of course this may also be good for getting a certain output, especially if the generator could work at its highest efficiency rpm range.  Also, the weight of the generator could be increased somewhat if it has too small mass by attaching some weight onto its body.

Thanks,
Gyula

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2014, 01:34:51 PM »
What if yo had two magnetic balls, on + and one - inside a closed copper circle? Has anybody tried that?

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Re: new magnet ball in a tube motor ?
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