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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2334986 times)

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3526 on: April 15, 2016, 02:27:08 PM »
100% Figuera  
http://free-energy-devices.com/PatD14.pdf


No moving parts - selfrunner.......
So why don't we see these everywhere in 2016?
Norman

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3527 on: April 16, 2016, 07:40:50 AM »
That application was abandoned after the first office action. Whenever a device that is claimed to have COP>1 is sought to be patented USPTO generally asks for proof by a working device to be demonstrated before USPTO. No one produces such devices. The only exception to this case that I'm aware of is the Pyramid Electric Geneator of Peter Grandics http://www.google.co.in/patents/US8004250 This application was however refused in EPO. The first patent of Peter Grandics was refused in USPTO but the second patent was some how allowed without raising any questions. This patent stipulates a minimum of 500 volts output to exceed COP>1 which is consistent with my observations. However it requires LF or ELF frequencies which are inimical to health. So it is not going to be allowed.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3528 on: April 16, 2016, 08:48:47 AM »
Hi all.
Here is a demostration of COP>1 filmed in front of the pattent office and the patent was refused, a clear demostration as the water from the pump.
In memory of the Great Joseph W Newman:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xMm6qo-Hgc

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3529 on: April 16, 2016, 11:02:04 AM »
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very naive question :)
p.s  my opinion schools,universities created for population dumbing :) i think around 18xx 19xx rich ones understood that soon noone will be cutting their grass for free by their castles:) and they made a plan which u see now :) i dont say that school or university is bad it has its positive effects BUT it puts u in abox



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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3530 on: April 17, 2016, 04:24:22 AM »
No moving parts - selfrunner.......
So why don't we see these everywhere in 2016?
Norman
For the same reason Gary Webb was able to commit suicide by shooting himself twice in the head. Devices or people that can cause to much disruption can quickly go bye bye. Lots of economies rely heavily on exporting fossil fuels. When Saudi Arabia has to build large solar power facilities in order to keep making money exporting fossil fuels instead of using it up themselves, you know it's a rather important product that powerful people want to keep in circulation.

So far the Figuera device discussed in this thread is one of the best devices I have seen that makes sense to me. I see lenz in the system. However, the lenz appears to help it instead of hurting it.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2016, 06:44:22 AM by MagnaProp »

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3531 on: April 17, 2016, 01:05:42 PM »
I unfortunately have to make an admission of failure.

Both Ramaswami device and Figuera Device works well and produce COP>1 under the following two circumstances.

1. When the core is saturated. The core that I used is not a solid iron core but core made up of iron rods. This rod has significant air core component of at least 20% of the core and so we are able to go to high Tesla ranges without melting the iron. But the unfortunate problem is that the core at such high saturation is said to output very high Electromagnetic radiations which are inimical to health. Therefore I was advised that I should not go beyond 1.2 Tesla. I'm unable to get COP.1 at 1.2 Tesla.

2. There is a type of winding that I tried that produces COP>1 but again that type of winding is said to create 100 times more inimical radiation than the core at saturation.

3. It is not possible for me as indicated in the Figueras patent to get COP>1 or self sustaining devices under the safety margins. No hazard to health, 'environment and safe and sustainied operation of the device are the rules that I had to meet. In spite of my high efforts I'm unable to do it.

4. Unfortunately when I connected multiple primary coils in parallel the input voltage came down and input amperage went up. The secondaries are not merging. If we take the output value of each individual secondary I was able to reach 82 volts and when I connect the multiple secondaries together in series the combined voltage is never the combined value. It gets combined to produce a super high voltage only when the core is saturated. Larger cores draw amps like 25 or 30 amps from the mains. 200 watts lamps light up as if they are 500 watts lamps being powered under high voltage.

I have to admit my failure here. I have checked as Figuera type and as Ramaswami type and I used AC and I repeatedly face this problem.

I will test for one more time with pulsed DC using a special circuit where the output which will power the primary will be in 25 Khz frequency, with an output voltage of 500 volts and we need to check what is the amperage drawn. I'm going to use Mosfets or transistors that can handle high current draw and let me see if it works. The circuit will keep the pulsed dC at +5 to the top of the sine wave and it will never reach zero. This will not allow the magnetic field to collapse. Lenz law is not supposed to come unless the magnetic field collpases and this is the only test that I have to do.

If this does not work, I intend to stop my experiments and focus on my Practice.


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3532 on: April 17, 2016, 01:55:27 PM »
.... melting the iron. But the unfortunate problem is that the core at such high saturation is said to output very high Electromagnetic radiations which are inimical to health.

2. There is a type of winding that I tried that produces COP>1 but again that type of winding is said to create 100 times more inimical radiation than the core at saturation.

You are a scam artist. Your post are just to discourage people from replicating this device. All in your post is a big lie. Your are a brake in this project. Nothing is useful from your posts and just miguiding points as saturating the core (nonsense)????, melting the iron (stupidity)!!!!, radiation (a big lie) !!!!

I may guess that you are  misguiding people because you have some interests that nobody may be able to replicate this system.

I have a private message from you some time ago telling me that the advice about radiation was a lie.  In that time I realized you were a scam artist. That was my fault for not uncovering you. I am sorry for not telling that in the thread then. But never is too late.

You have come back to use the same argument to create terror. I am going to search for that message and I will release the text in short in the good of truth and justice. People will see the kind of person you are.

Bye ... bye

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3533 on: April 17, 2016, 03:17:08 PM »
Oh, you just now realized this.....em,  it's about time you pulled your head out of your back side. Hanon has awaken.

MagnaProp;

So far the Figuera device discussed in this thread is one of the best devices I have seen that makes sense to me. I see lenz in the system. However, the lenz appears to help it instead of hurting it.

very good observation and totally correct.
i also believe you don't use Indian tech support with an assumption like that.

NRamaswami

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3534 on: April 17, 2016, 03:38:30 PM »
You are a scam artist. Your post are just to discourage people from replicating this device. All in your post is a big lie. Your are a brake in this project. Nothing is useful from your posts and just miguiding points as saturating the core (nonsense)????, melting the iron (stupidity)!!!!, radiation (a big lie) !!!!

I may guess that you are  misguiding people because you have some interests that nobody may be able to replicate this system.

I have a private message from you some time ago telling me that the advice about radiation was a lie.  In that time I realized you were a scam artist. That was my fault for not uncovering you. I am sorry for not telling that in the thread then. But never is too late.

You have come back to use the same argument to create terror. I am going to search for that message and I will release the text in short in the good of truth and justice. People will see the kind of person you are.

Bye ... bye


Hanon:

I have only told the forum what I have experienced and what I have seen. How can this prevent others from doing the experiments. Please check with others what is the safe margin for transformer cores (1.2 Tesla is what I'm told). COP>1 comes for a few seconds or 1 or 2 minutes but the iron roars. That is not safe is any one who does the experiment can see.

I'm least bothered about titles such as scam artist..You had not done the kind of large devices that I did. You had not suffered in the way I suffered.

We are dealing with Electricty at low frequency here. High amperage and significantly high voltage. If the results come I can say yes the results come. If results under safety conditions do not come, I have to tell this as well.

You must also remember that I'm not a scientist nor an Engineer. If I have some negative report from an experiment how does that make me a  scam artist.  I speak the truth.

I do not block any one from going ahead with these experiments and I wish all Success. If I cannot do some thing under safety conditions laid down what can I do? I have to say this openly.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #3535 on: April 17, 2016, 05:23:42 PM »
LITERAL QUOTE FROM A PRIVATE COMMUNICATION FROM NRAMASWAMI TO ME ON THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER 2015.



"There is no radiation from the central coil to affect us and the computers and the cellphones kept in the same room were on when the tests were run and they had no problem. So there was no radiation. But do not disclose this in the forum. "


I regret for not telling this before. I tried to be politely with you suggesting that your device was not as the design by Figuera and to start a new thread and go away from here. But you did not do it and even you create terror again with the lie on "radiation"


I just expose what you have done. It is your fault. It is not my fault. My only fault was not to tell it on the very next day to that message.


Bye... bye


PD: Never is too late for you to start a different thread to tell your important advances and discoveries. I invite/encourage you to do it ...


Bye ... bye

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« Reply #3536 on: April 17, 2016, 07:02:59 PM »



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« Reply #3537 on: April 17, 2016, 07:22:40 PM »
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« Reply #3538 on: April 17, 2016, 07:27:54 PM »
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NRamaswami

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« Reply #3539 on: April 17, 2016, 08:01:28 PM »
LITERAL QUOTE FROM A PRIVATE COMMUNICATION FROM NRAMASWAMI TO ME ON THE 29TH OF SEPTEMBER 2015.
"There is no radiation from the central coil to affect us and the computers and the cellphones kept in the same room were on when the tests were run and they had no problem. So there was no radiation. But do not disclose this in the forum. "
I regret for not telling this before. I tried to be politely with you suggesting that your device was not as the design by Figuera and to start a new thread and go away from here. But you did not do it and even you create terror again with the lie on "radiation
I just expose what you have done. It is your fault. It is not my fault. My only fault was not to tell it on the very next day to that message.
Bye... byePD: Never is too late for you to start a different thread to tell your important advances and discoveries. I invite/encourage you to do it ...
Bye ... bye

You are hiding your email to me why we should not disclose the opinion of one profssor and my detailed response the same day that I am receiving two different advices. I explained I do not have equipment tomeasure frequencies or radiations and both me and my driver are affected but not electrnic equipment and so I cannot post this kind of information. You agreed and kept quit for 7 months. Why? What did I write? If you have any dgnity post my explanation also. I will postit any way tomorrow.
In short I pointed out that one professor claimed if electronic equipment are not affected no problem.Two others disagreed. Fact was that On the other hand my driver had a blood clot in the brain and I had been suffering with swollen legs like elehant legs and asked what you would do under these two different advices received. I also pointed out that multifilar coils with secondary under them can provide all kinds of frequencies and I have posted info that I felt is safe alone to the forum. You did not object to this prudent view. Tomorrow I will post a summary of the personal health problems I communicated to you many times. With dates.

You please post how many emails I sent you about my personal health problems if you are honest.

I am also not denying that cop>1 results come easily if the core is saturated.

If the core issaturated core can be heated so much it will melt and the insulations will burn. This is careless and negligent conduct. In any case how many of you talkers have bought 300 kgmsofsoft ironand tested fo three years? I did. And I havethe honesty to accept that under safe and ustained use conditiond device as built me dpoes not work.
I have the honesty to admit failure. You must show the detaled explanation I gave you on the same say what prevents me from posting all I know.
This is low frequency high.voltage high amperage electricity.
Experiments cannot be carelessly conducted here.
You asked me not to stop in 2013. As a result of doing these experiments I suffered enommously. Are you ready to accept liability for my sufferings and time and effort? Are you ready to compensate us for oursufferings

The xomputer is now also affected.