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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2352767 times)

darediamond

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2775 on: November 28, 2015, 05:01:29 PM »
Somehow some way, I think, the first 3 major thing to make any Overunity Transformer work is to make sure:

1. You make your Primary Winding to generate Etremly High Flux and the only way I know to do that is to apply Tesla style of Winding. So you must use at least 10 to 30 strands or above of any gauge you wish to use. And note that between 100 and 200 turns produce the Strongest Flux though you can go higher in relation to your input voltage and core size.
 Furthermore, you should separate each layers of your primary winding and secondary windings too with appropiate insulator which means an insulator as thich as the magnet wire you intent to use. But generally, plastic cellotape is better than paper. If the tape is not as thick as the gauge of your wire, simply re-tape the area over and over to achiece the desired thickness. Another advantage of using plastic tape is that it holds your windings firmly and that firmness aids high capacitance too and capacitive is one of the keys.

2. You cancel Lenz Law in your Set-up. This is a Major Key because onze you achieve this, then overunity is 70% bound to occur. So simply mould a the type of core Thanes Heins invented or if you wanna go the way of Mr. N. Ramaswani, then you wind one Primary Clockwise and the other primary anticlockwise to negate Lenze effect to pave way for the flow of Flux in the correct WAY.

Other things I'm considering is instead of using AC to power the System and therby such heavy Wattage, can't the Primary bé Pulsed with an High Voltage low amp input and still get AC at the secondary much like in inverter?

I think if this is possible then Optical Switch will bé employed to Switch the Primary and the Primary must bé wound with Thin Copper gauge or Heave Kilogram of say AWG#26 or #30 or #31 to allow for high resistance needed for High Voltage usage at vero low miliamp.

So in a nut shell the Primary will then bé using say 540VDC at 0.05A or even 1000VDC or higher depending on the Resistance of the Primary coil finished winding and still produce extremly powerful Flux to the well prepared Secondary(wind to form Capacitor) to produce upward of 1000W.

Another benefit in Pulsing the primary will bé the production and capturing of Radiant Energy which will help cool the system and further allows for complete Looping using Diodes and Capacitors that matches the voltage of the incomming Back EMF.

Most times, the Back EMF is always in Ten fold withouth you loosing ang forward amperage. So when you pulse your Primary with say 500V 5mAh, you will get as back EMF at least 500VX5mAhx10!!!

So all you need do is to make a Lenzless High Voltage stepdown transformer and connect it to your E.M.F Capaturing Capacitors and from the transformer to Rectifying diodes and from there to filter capacitors and from there to your Super Capacitor Bank and Or Battery provided the output Voltage from the H.V Lenzeless stepdown transformer fits your Bank charging Voltage.

All the way from Nigeria, Dare Diamond say hello to the Whole house.

NOTE: No human invention is perfect so also my sayings above. So they can bé modyfied for corrections where anyone think I am wrong.



 

darediamond

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2776 on: November 29, 2015, 04:17:26 AM »
To generate High Otput Wattage in the Ramaswani great invention without inputing high wattage as high as 60W, High Voltage Pulsing DC is needed because Voltage is the Major Driver not the Current.

In High Voltage pulsed Motors, one of the ways to surpress lenze includes usage of High Voltage!!

 

To curb saturation of the core using DC, then buy powderd Iron from Chineese Manufactures if you can't get it in your countries local Iron manufacturing companies, 2-Part or 3-part Resin or.  Any other Epoxy and mix them together to Mould your core.

See people, moulded core can withstand Higher Voltage at Higher frequency or oscillation.

Use thin gauge for your Primaries.

When using Mosfet to Switch on and off the Primaries, connect in Parallel High Voltage AC Capacitors to Suck any B.E.M.F or Spike so as not to get your Mosfets fried!!

The extreme capacitance build-up in the primaries conditioned them excellently to absorb the Ambient Energy which multiplies the Output of the Secondaries Enormously. So YOU MUST use nothing less that 10 strands or even more as high as 30 to make your Primaries and connects there leads in SERIES.

Wind your primary in capacitor style by separating each layers with Plastic Tape( I have already stated the benefits in this)

Also, when winding your Primaries, make sure the strands falls side by side to increase the capacitance.


Doug1

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2777 on: November 29, 2015, 04:04:01 PM »
Yes.

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« Reply #2778 on: November 30, 2015, 02:33:57 AM »
Hey guys, I'm following a hunch here.

If you look at the image, we have a phasor of a resistor in series with an inductor. Now a perfect inductor has inductance, and zero resistance. So ideally, devices based on inductors, such as a transformer, cause the current to lag the voltage by 90 degrees, due to high reactance.

However, because there is a resistance in series, the resistance offsets the reactance, causing the lag to be less than 90 degrees. So looking at the phasor again, if the resistance were higher than the reactance, we could eventually reach zero current lag.

So I'm starting to think the reason Figuera made his commutator was twofold.
1. So the exciter current could be powered by DC.
2. The variable resistor, and series of inducer coils, reduced or eliminated the reactance.

Getting into this, in his other motionless patent he mentions,
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until the present, none has tried to change, at industrial scale, from zero, the magnetic power of the excitatory magnets or electromagnets of a running machine.
This strange quote seems that he implies alternating the exciter current of a generator to produce the same results. When considering the generators of the day, with their large exciter coils, what would the results be?

So, is it possible to create a generator, or simply a transformer, powered by AC? I'm curious to know if the turns ratio still applies if you had a larger resistance than reactance (zero current lag)? ???

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2779 on: November 30, 2015, 10:02:48 AM »
I think this is an easy way to get the two signals: using a magnet  (or DC inductor) + AC signals to modulate the strength of the final magnetic field. While one field is increasing in strength (adding the magnet field  plus de AC magnetic field) the other field is decreasing in strength (the AC field substracting from the magnet field). Later, when the AC is reversed, the situation is the contrary in each inducer. You will get two opposite signals.




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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2780 on: November 30, 2015, 01:42:40 PM »
"I think this is an easy way to get the two signals: using a magnet  (or DC inductor) + AC signals to modulate the strength of the final magnetic field. While one field is increasing in strength (adding the magnet field  plus de AC magnetic field) the other field is decreasing in strength (the AC field substracting from the magnet field). Later, when the AC is reversed, the situation is the contrary in each inducer. You will get two opposite signals."

 That is pretty much how a magnetic amplifier works. A generator shifts the primary field to induce a secondary (the stator) without direct contact. Only the field is in contact with both in a generator. The signal would still have to be generated and the second source of power would have be generated to make the amplification. If the two forms of field use less power then they put out on the induced then your good to go. Figurea only used a small portion of the output to excite the moving field and turn the motor in the controller which is so much less then the output it could run itself indefinitely. There is ether a way for the stored power in the form of the magnetic field to remain constant as it is shifted from one inducer to the other minus a little bit for losses or the output is so large it can power the load plus all the required power to operate the effect causing the effect. Your still missing a couple of things which you will chip away at if you stay on track.
  I will save you one of them. Thinking in terms of a normal generator that rotates. A  single field from a electromagnet crosses through an air gap into a ring completing the magnetic circuit making it a closed path. Is there a constant force of attraction and how much force is there in ft lbs at all times as the magnet rotates? Or as I would view it what is the minimum and maximum amount of constant force required excluding the rotation since the rotation will be handled differently?

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2781 on: November 30, 2015, 03:34:47 PM »
In magnetic amplifiers the high power signal must be alternating. It can not be DC. You need to play with its impedance, so it has to be alternating. As the powerless signal, which govern the output pattern, is an aprox. 50 Hz signal for the Figuera´s device then the power signal must have a much higher frequency than the small signal and later be smoothed with a capacitor. Therefore the high power signal must be HF or kind so (400-500 Hz or more). This is my IMHO , as far as I understand the theory of those devices, because I have never seen any. As you can see I give answers, not cryptics clues as you tend to do in your posts


I am not currently doing tests, I stopped it. I won´t go into discussion. I just post to help others. Bye

antijon

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« Reply #2782 on: November 30, 2015, 04:56:38 PM »
Hanon, that's a pretty good idea. The DC bias acts like the neutral zone, and the AC causes the rotation. But I'm going to say, as Doug mentioned the mag. amp., if the two AC coils were wired in parallel instead of series, the AC current would naturally go to one coil or the other instead of both. But this is all stuff that would need to be tested with experimentation.

Doug, you have some good questions, but that's what makes Figuera so interesting. As they say, energy is stored in the field. When the magnet is pushed to the coil, the torque is converted to the energy, or EMF, of the output coil. As the same thing happens when the magnet is pulled away from the coil. So it would seem that the magnetic energy remains mainly unchanged, and the torque is directly converted to the EMF. But in a different aspect, you could say that as the magnet is approaching one and leaving the other, they are both inducing EMF, which means twice the power.

But in the Figueras generador, and apparently his motionless patent before that, a changing magnetic field is used to do the same thing. And it was apparently a very small current. So what's the difference between his device and every other non moving device? Input reactance is the only thing I can see.

His device lacks reactance, and when the fields are changing, both fields are producing EMF, and that means with two exciter coils you get twice the power output, similar to a generator.

And this is why I'm now starting to look at resonant transformers. If a capacitor can quell the reactance, we can have current in phase with the voltage. Of course, a transformer is a transformer, so it would also require a second primary, or exciter coil, to increase the EMF.

Well anyway, you can replicate the device, or you can understand the device and replicate the method.

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2783 on: November 30, 2015, 06:33:19 PM »
Quote "until the present, none has tried to change, at industrial scale, from zero, the magnetic power of the excitatory magnets or electromagnets of a running machine".
Quote "This strange quote seems that he implies alternating the exciter current of a generator to produce the same results. When considering the generators of the day, with their large exciter coils, what would the results be?"

All Figueras is saying is that up until that time no one has varied the currant in the excitatory / Electromagnet to get the desired output. i also can't believe you said this "This strange quote seems that he implies alternating the exciter current of a generator"  Duh! that's what Most all of his patents have been saying..... he varied the currant in his electromagnets in an alternating fashion .... ie one high one low.

I personally think that hanon"s idea is not valid but who am i to get in the way of one man's research. i would tend to think that all human's have an enate history to over complicate EVERYTHING so i think i will stay on the track i am presently on. Figueras was a very simple man that built a simplex device that did not use Magnets in his design.
good luck to the both of you.
i have some design specs i will be posting later that can be used by everyone and tweeked to their liking.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2015, 08:44:10 PM by marathonman »

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« Reply #2784 on: November 30, 2015, 07:00:23 PM »
Hannon
 Zero cryptology then. The signal strength being amplified can be cascaded into any number of amplifiers to reach any output you feel inclined to reach. It is only similar ,there are differences.

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« Reply #2785 on: November 30, 2015, 07:26:11 PM »
So how R we doing fellas..... getting along R we..... YES we R getting along R'nt we. everyone nod your head up and down.....thank you.
on that last post i said F-IT and will post all my goodies. just remember it can be tweeked so nothing is set in stone.

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« Reply #2786 on: December 01, 2015, 07:58:15 PM »
Wow, don't know how I missed the posts by darediamond before, but welcome to the forums, from one newb to another. I saw you posted a chapter by Patrick Kelly, but it would be wise to not put too much thought in his book. I'm just saying, he's another guy that pretty much spreads bad info, at least in my opinion.

Marathonman, I'd like to know why you think hanon's idea is not valid. It should produce the proper magnetic fields. The DC bias prevents reactance. The polarity of the coils prevents AC from developing in the DC winding, similar to a mag amp. And above all, there's only two controls, DC voltage, and AC voltage. So what's so complicated about it.

And this:
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i would tend to think that all human's have an enate history to over complicate EVERYTHING so i think i will stay on the track i am presently on. Figueras was a very simple man that built a simplex device that did not use Magnets in his design.
good luck to the both of you.

Dude you are the king of over-complication. From the control board to the mag amp voltage control, all I see is complicated. But you're missing some of the foundation of the whole thing, like the reactance. I know we talk a lot about the "what-ifs" of the generator, but we're really going over the "whys" so we can understand the principles. Because if you don't get it right, you just might end up with a fancy transformer or inverter.

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« Reply #2787 on: December 01, 2015, 08:49:45 PM »
antijon, some how this new guy's post were added after we posted. i don't know how but he did....weird huh !   guy rambles like ranswami did also. Arg!

anyways about Honon, he has his poles at the secondary the wrong way. if you have a North at one end and a south at the other end it will act as one magnet. like he said he doesn't test any more.

my control board is very simple as is my mag amp set up. i will not use Figueras commutator set up because i don't like it because it will wear out. if you think you can do better well more power to ya. all i am doing is sharing my research and can give a F-in rats ass if some simple minded person thinks it is over complicated. boo hoo ! use some thing else antijon, very simple.  I DO NOT CRITICIZE YOUR WORK OR Hanon's LIKE YOU JUST DID TO MINE.  all i said is i don't think it will work. if it does well good for him and you also if you use it.
i am using the mag amp style because it will be almost indestructible and no parts to wear out except for the very small control board which can be replaced in a few minutes and is cheap to build and implement . what is so complicated about that?   far more simple than Figueras Commutator set up.

i agree with you about Patrick's stuff, he post to much misinformation.
here is a little info about our wonderful magnetic poles.  pic below

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« Reply #2788 on: December 02, 2015, 05:01:42 PM »
I didn't criticize your idea but I will criticize that chip on your shoulder.

The point I was trying to make about your arrangement was that, when it comes down to it, it's just a transformer driver. Try to listen here, instead of just looking for another reason to curse at someone. You're producing AC and driving coils. That's all an inverter does.

But please, build it and test it out. I have enough experience to already know the outcome.... just like your transverse coil idea.

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« Reply #2789 on: December 02, 2015, 05:17:56 PM »
That"s not what i read. to disagree is one thing to Rant and rave is another.

You're producing AC and driving coils.  EXPLAIN !