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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2354350 times)

ALVARO_CS

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2490 on: August 01, 2015, 05:00:32 PM »
Hummm
51 downloads in less that 24 hours !

It seems that RandyFL is not the only one thinking about it.

At least I´m happy that my work could be useful for someone  :)

Doug1

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« Reply #2491 on: August 01, 2015, 06:53:12 PM »
Not bad Alvero, a little bit word'y in the beginning. You have some type o's to fix but over all not bad. That is my version of a compliment. It would probably be better suited as a historical read over a manual. There are a lot of details left out regarding specific coil techniques of the inducer magnets. The resister array is spot on but there are problems with getting a person to mentally visualize it from a written description.  You did not mention anything about the current in the inducer of decline at any given time. The semi collapsing field will send current back into the array as it declines while at the same time reversing the polarity of the declining inducer.An electromagnet is also a storage device. For a short period of time this places the two inducers in an opposing field orientation nn ss after which the array is starting to move current into the opposite coil. A fair amount of the power is just shuttled back and forth through the array and boosted a little bit from a small amount off the output as it goes through the distributor.
   The advantage of paying attention to the turns ratio of the coils is the means to make a variable and powerful magnet no mater what the voltage you have to work with. You don't have to rely on using wire resistance to reduce the power consumption,the array will do it. So you can take full advantage using shorter coils in parallel to reach the volt turns ratio compared to the core dimensions covered. The Henry electromagnet should come to mind. A platter magnet might be a little better but they take soooo long to make.Lot of wasted material.
   Im going to ask you qualifying question. Does it need a rectifier?

ALVARO_CS

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« Reply #2492 on: August 01, 2015, 09:24:29 PM »
wowow Doug1, hold on a minute  !

I stated in my translator notes, that I was being as LITERAL as I could.
These are the patent words by Buforn, not mine !!!
IMHO its the  more tedious, repetitive, and obscure text I´ve never read in a patent. (I even found typos and spelling mistakes)

It is so even in Spanish, but someone here was using a worse program translation, and asked for a better option.
The simplicity of text in the Figuera patents, leaves many unknowns, but no booooring  :'(

By the way,. . what´s a semi collapsing field ?? . . . will it send semi current back as it semi decays ?? and will it semi reverse the polarity  ?? ;D ;D ;D (sorry, could not resist, no offense intended)

About my typo´s, please be kind to point them at me (in a PM) to be corrected asap. Thanks

cheers
Alvaro

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2493 on: August 02, 2015, 12:22:36 AM »
..It seems that RandyFL is not the only one thinking about it...
Thanks for the translation.

I am trying to make sense of how it is wired together. The patent drawings don't appear to be clear on what wires are passing over others and which ones are connected together. Are all intersecting lines assumed to be connected together?

Attached is my attempt at which wires are connected together and which ones are not by pure guessing. Color coded only for clarity. The green dots are wires connected together and the yellow arch is where two wires pass each other but are not connected.

I have included a clean image so that you or someone can hopefully draw the connections correctly for me.


core

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2494 on: August 02, 2015, 07:33:04 AM »
Well here is my interpretation of the Figuera device.

-Core

RandyFL

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« Reply #2495 on: August 02, 2015, 10:05:26 AM »
Core,
I am assuming... this is a straight view ( looking directly at it ) of your interpretation? could we get a side view?
If you can't with the pc... could you draw it by hand and post it
All the best

All,
Is it me or just my imagination... but I'm counting 8 transformers ( if that's the right word ) on post reply 2498 and 7 on Bajac's post of 2437 and 5 on post 2411 ( which is daisy chained and stacked on top )...

Clarification please...

All the Best

ignacio

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2496 on: August 02, 2015, 02:07:42 PM »
es igual

core

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2497 on: August 02, 2015, 10:18:04 PM »
Core,
I am assuming... this is a straight view ( looking directly at it ) of your interpretation? could we get a side view?
If you can't with the pc... could you draw it by hand and post it
All the best

Draw by hand? that's barbaric  :D

Here is a better drawing and the attached PDF is a complete drawing that outlines operation. The PDF is one large drawing and is not intended for 8.5 x 11 Paper

Good Luck!

RandyFL

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« Reply #2498 on: August 03, 2015, 01:51:59 AM »
Core,
So... from a side angle. Great job. Whats the bias coil for...? Now could you add one more thing to it. Draw a shaft ( rotor ) being held in place in the middle that spins and gives another avenue of the endless possibilities. Also you could have Y lower than the N and S to lay another coil on top of it............

Lastly... this bias coil... is that part of the U shaped iron... because it could be another Y if you separated it from the N and S and be a avenue for some more energy... plus you have that circle in the middle ( which puts this out of the ball park - home run ) great job.

All the best

core

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #2499 on: August 03, 2015, 01:59:21 AM »
Randy,

If you download the PDF file that is above the picture I go into detail on the operation of the unit. The details are located on the right side of the blue print. This PDF is a large drawing done on CAD and will not print out well on 8.5 x 11. It is made for large 34" x 48" paper.

- Core

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« Reply #2500 on: August 03, 2015, 02:06:28 AM »
This is how the above unit operates. In the PDF I give credit to the patents used. One of them is a device from Thomas Edison. In short these are concepts taken from other peoples hard work.



- CORE MATERIAL & SHAPE:
Iron is the only material used here. The shape of the core is extremely insignificant and does have to mach what is shown in the drawing. A Magnetic circuit will close regardless of the shape of the core material. To emphasize this you could create a core in the shape of Mickey Mouse with the smallest of air gaps and the magnetic circuit, providing the air gap closes via Magnetostriction, will still conduct magnetic current. For drawing purposes the core is shown square, functionality is the same regardless of shape when we are talking about Magnetic Currents. This drawing shows laminated iron sheets, in a square fashion, being used.


- SEQUENCE OF OPERATION

-Bias Circuit:
This circuit provides for a constant magnetization of the core material. The objective here is to constantly provide a low power driving force that keep the core material magnetized in a specific direction. Possible substitution here could be a permanent magnet core.
However the magnetizing force provided by this coil should be below the force required for the Magnetostriction effect. Initial voltage should be 24 volts D.C. @ .25 amps.

-PRIMARY COILS:
These coil provide the energy required to create the Magnetostriction effect in the larger iron core. It is estimated that this driving force should be no less then 120 volts @ 1 amp or 220 volts @ .5 amps. The coils should be oriented in a fashion that supplements the pole orientation shown on the drawing. These coils can be operated in the fashion shown by the Discharger circuit. If pulsed simultaneously a D.C. Output is created. If pulsed alternately an A.C. Output is created.

Resonance is of importance here. However this resonance is not electrical resonance but the resonance of the core material. The mass of the core material will dictate the required pulse frequency.

- SECONDARY COIL:
This phrase is used loosely here and used for identification then actual practice. This coil should be robust as it will absorb/transport a large amount of current. Its sequence is as follows:

1. At the moment the iron core of the secondary comes in contact with the primary core material (via the Magnetostriction effect) a large current will flow throw this core.

2. This coil, at that moment, is shorted out via a mosfet. When shorted a large current will flow through the coil increasing the expansion of its core material thus increasing magnetic contact with the primary core.

3. At the moment the Primary coil(s) are de-energized the iron primary core retracts effectively opening the core to the designed air gap. The magnetic current, that was circulating rapidly through the magnetic core is abruptly halted due to the resistance encountered in the air gap of the core.

4. At this moment the magnetic energy is thrown from the iron. It is at this moment that the Secondary coil short is removed and the coil is allowed to feed a load or a storage capacitor. The moment the primary coil is closed again producing the Magnetostriction effect the secondary coil is shorted again.

5. This procedure is repeated in a smooth fashion at the resonant frequency of the primary core material.



Taken from the PDF.

-Core

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« Reply #2501 on: August 03, 2015, 03:04:42 AM »
I want to emphasize a point here that coil and core geometry mean very little. Unlike a traditional transformer that requires calculating the primary and secondary coil for the correct output that is not required here. The primary, and its called that for lack of a better name, has one purpose only and that is to magnetize the iron core to allow the Magnetostriction effect to take place.

There is no direct interaction, as in a transformer, between primary and secondary coils. The secondary coil, and its called that for lack of a better term, simply absorbs the energy that is released from the iron when the air gap is re-established and the magnetic current comes to a crashing halt. For a greater understanding please research the patents I cited in the PDF.

Bottom line: We are using iron to focus and collect the energy stream. This energy stream is the magnetic current in a magnetized material (iron). We use a natural effect to halt the movement of this energy. Then we use a closed earth grounded coil to collect what would normally dissipate into the atmosphere. This isn't new or original, it was experimented even by Thomas Edison (see his patent) and others. Ed Leedskainin wrote about it in his book.

-Core   

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« Reply #2502 on: August 03, 2015, 01:44:53 PM »
Core,
Great job on your interpretation and your drawings. Now... have you got the replication in video of where it powers up and disconnects from the power and runs by itself and powers something else...

Also...is the transformer ( for lack of a better word ) stand alone or is it 5, 7 or 8 array...

All the Best

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« Reply #2503 on: August 04, 2015, 12:43:48 AM »
Core,
I think you have nailed it. Some time ago I spent a large amount of money and 6 weeks full time work trying to replicate this generator. I learned that there was no combination of coils and cores that would work without an unknown ( to me ) factor. Thank you!


ALVARO_CS,
Thank you for the translation work. I did a google translation of part of this patent almost a year ago, but I knew it was lacking and your's cleared up several points for me.


Garry

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« Reply #2504 on: August 08, 2015, 04:40:15 PM »
Alvaro,


Yo have done a great work translating the patent from 1914 by Buforn !!! I am sure that your work will be of great value to those wanting to replicate the original Figuera´s generator. This patent put into light some more details than the patent from 1908 because it defines the induced core orientation and it gives to arrangements for the induced coil with respect to the electromagnets. In this patent it is clear that the three cores must be aligned in a straight way :


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but not forming a kind of transformer with the induced coil touching the 4 poles as Bajac stated in his personal proposal. That proposal from Bajac is wise, genuine and very interesting but it is not what Figuera porposed first in his 1902 patent, later in his 1908 and finally by Buforn after Figuera´s death (Buforn was a Figuera´s partner)   


Core,
It is good to see new ideas in the forum. I didn´t know the effect of magnetostriction (the deformation of the magnetic material as consequence of the magnetic polarity created). I have read some info in the wikipedia and this effect it is very little: around one micrometer (10^-6 m) of elongation per meter of length in the original material. It is too little to affect the space between inducers and induced coil. But it is just my guess after a quick review of the theory, but not sure if it could be the key. I have read that this effect is the acuse of the humming sound in transformer. In the other hand, Figuera never told about switch off and on both the inducer and the induced alternatively and shunting the induced coil while the inducer was powered. These are new ideas in your design but not in the patents. In case we were looking for and strange effect in the space between two magnet I tend to think that maybe it is more related to the works of Nikolaev with the discovery of the longitudinal magnetic field. I posted this in the next link. P please read it carefully and give your opinion:


http://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg449854/#msg449854


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