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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 1073967 times)

Offline hanon

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4125 on: October 06, 2016, 11:34:02 AM »
If you read the whole forum even some posts I did in 2013 you will see that from that date I defend the poles in repulsion design while the user you mentioned only used north-south polarity in his post and designs. I did not convince him of my point and he did not convince me of his proposal. If you really want to understand the patents you just have to read them tens of times as I did and analyze them in detail.

Less reading of strange and unrelated patents are you post here daily and more reading of Figuera patents, especially the one written in 1908. This is the key.

Good luck and keep on searching for more patents..

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4126 on: October 06, 2016, 02:23:22 PM »
Hello hanon,
I have no problem with your explanation !


If you read the whole forum even some posts I did in 2013 you will see that from that date I defend the poles in repulsion design while the user you mentioned only used north-south polarity in his post and designs. I did not convince him of my point and he did not convince me of his proposal. If you really want to understand the patents you just have to read them tens of times as I did and analyze them in detail.Less reading of strange and unrelated patents are you post here daily and more reading of Figuera patents, especially the one written in 1908. This is the key.
Good luck and keep on searching for more patents..



" Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE"

Imagine this would be the drive from an vtol : how many transmission steps you want to have ?
         
               think 4Dimensional,but begin with a conventional car drive
               then think on land,under sea and on air


you are both right !     The Wheel : cw and ccw ; Audi Quatro transmission ? 4 X wheel-e-drives ?

                                    engine propulsion and transmission probably as automatic (solar-planet-gear)

                                   all terrain and spaces vehicle

Do you really think that I am in search ?


Sincerely
              OCWL


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4127 on: October 06, 2016, 07:30:19 PM »
I regret that my name has been dragged in. To set records straight let me admit that it is Hanon who insisted on my continuing the research and overruling my objections sent me funds. $690 to be precise.

I have informed Hanon of all results and posted them here as well. Hanon has admitted to me that with pulsed DC input the NN poles produced zero output. The samevis the result with AC.

My efforts resulted in some people supporting me. Hanon wanted to know the identity of these friends and I have had no right to disclose identities of people who interact eith me based on trust in me. The others had not authorized me to disclose their identity to any one.  I refused to disclose.  Then Hanon felt offended and asked me to retun the funds. I have fully repaid all $690 received from Hanon in three installments. 

This is not to put Hanon in poor light. He wantedvto others but I had no authorisation and he felt offended and demanded his funds back.  I know his real identity and if others asked me to reveal it I would naturally have refused. I cannot commit a breach of trust.

Hanon has agreed that NN poles produce zero output volts with pulsed dc and they produce cop 0.30 to 0.40 when the rotary device as stated in Figuera patent is used. He has not disclosed to me as to what is the output if NS poles 

The team that did the project has dispersed and I am no longer interested in this.

Unfortunately here people come to abuse real researchers and post info that is at best a guesstimate. 

I have learned that with magnets experimental observation is the key and theories do not work and text books are programmed to limit your search for finding the truth. I did not go by text books. I progressed based on experimental observations and did many experiments.  I have learnt many but I have not shared all.

I have no interest in this any more. I have seen that people are not what they pretend to be.  I am very disappointed. 

Regards

Ramaswami


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4128 on: October 06, 2016, 09:24:36 PM »
With NN poles and pulsed DC or AC the induction is 0.0 because there are two fields colliding in the center of the induced coil and final result is null.

To get induction with NN poles you need the commutator as described in the 1908 patent. Period. You need to move the two field, which does not happen with pulsed DC or simple AC.

This is not difficult to understand, but I see people interested in posting that NN does not work. I may guess many interests are present here to confuse people snd tell that the comutator is just to create AC which is untrue. I just say to test both configuration NS and NN with the 1908 commutator and then each one may see the difference and choose the design they prefer. Test and choose for yourselves.

I am just answering the technical statement, nor the others statements that I have other way of seeing those things. "overrulling my objections sent me funds" ??? OMG..


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4129 on: October 06, 2016, 09:55:05 PM »
check this video NN works and it is not 0V :) everything depends from how u do things :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Crq9j-f6Z7g

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4129 on: October 06, 2016, 09:55:05 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4130 on: October 06, 2016, 10:25:35 PM »
With NN poles and pulsed DC or AC the induction is 0.0 because there are two fields colliding in the center of the induced coil and final result is null.

To get induction with NN poles you need the commutator as described in the 1908 patent. Period. You need to move the two field, which does not happen with pulsed DC or simple AC.

This is not difficult to understand, but I see people interested in posting that NN does not work. I may guess many interests are present here to confuse people snd tell that the comutator is just to create AC which is untrue. I just say to test both configuration NS and NN with the 1908 commutator and then each one may see the difference and choose the design they prefer. Test and choose for yourselves.

I am just answering the technical statement, nor the others statements that I have other way of seeing those things. "overrulling my objections sent me funds" ??? OMG..


What I wrote here before your post ( time comparison) is also valid for the Figuera deviceRe: Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy
« Reply #7376 on: Today at 07:09:37 PM »


"You need to move the two field, which does not happen with pulsed DC or simple AC."[/size]
Or you have two counteracting coils with a small air gap distance !


Hooper ? Stupid and/ or none related ? Figura and Buforn Jacas wrote about the flexibility to use electro- or permanent-magnets(conventional ferrit or as electret or magnetret) ergo 
Hoopers is related: all electric ,also a permanent magnet inner cycle is : ? !   


hanon, I led now a comment about your next work,but at last the "wink" :
altruistic work principle here on overunity.com and the target is less 0,01 Euro/KWh and for the generator an average price about 150 Euros/KW !


Do not risk with high expectations that your investors will loose their money in one of your investment projects,that will not compete with these financial numbers,all inclusive !


R.O.I.: 100% investment return from the "prototyp and C.A.D.-plan development"
without gain/profit interests,probably with kickstarter and similar finance plat(t)form help .
Up this 100% R.O.I.-"breakeaven"-time-point "open source" !


Less partial-Euro-cent/KWh and Euros/KW prices then by REPRAP-production process !


                      the cash from the wrong speculating investments globally flow away
                                               totes Kapitalinvestment




Sincerely and good bye
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4131 on: October 06, 2016, 10:50:04 PM »
Pardon-me,Mister NRamaswami shall you feel offended by my defending -not off your financial interests-but how you can read by hanons post before by the use of a person in absence and secondly I did not wrote something against you during this -your-prolongated absence,up to your post !


It will not happen anymore in this thread,it has not more strategical interest   !
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stratego hanon ,not I but ?: cheque-mate !

I do not love but I like GRAND-ma nature and her "black Joker humor" :
http://www.handelsblatt.com/video/panorama/hurrikan-matthew-gruseliges-satellitenbild-macht-schlagzeilen/14654444.html

Sincerely
              OCWL

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4131 on: October 06, 2016, 10:50:04 PM »
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4132 on: October 07, 2016, 07:07:20 PM »
Sorry lanca but I do not understand your posts. I am here just to share technical info and make this generator well known among people. I am not a great practical researcher/builder but with the right info any time anyone will get good results.

Bye

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4133 on: October 07, 2016, 09:37:23 PM »
lancaIV   why u post so much random stuf  which takes so much space? :) u dont want others to see something or your random stuff is some CODE? :D

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4134 on: October 07, 2016, 10:31:44 PM »
gyvulys666 how shall we understand - encoded-your forum member "name" ?


Because here a gyvulys * 0-665 667-  members present ?
Are you a bad guy ? Or is this a mental faught and you wished to be a gyvulys999 or gyvulys333 ?


Each letter and each number represents normally -encoded- a sin/ a story / an evolution !
Chinese "image-": a story enclosd in a 1 sign ! up to 30000 signs/stories in 1 "image"-language !
                                       Kalligraphy !
 Encoding probably by Kabbale and patience or asking a real professional and confessional chinese philosoph whose speaks one of our common languages and can transmit the inner sin and values from the "good" old days !
  Kung-tse/Tao/Laotse and other "gurus" in dignity and respectfull meaning !


 We need probably 0,1 seconds to write or speak 1 letter from the A to Z alphabet (or number) and compare this with a chinese pupil how much time he/she/it(transgender) can invest in time in only 1 image,representing up to or more 1000 words !


Time is as worth as money and gold ! Someones nor time,nor money neither gold represents worth !


                              But there is a relationship,unseen,but philosopher knows it !


gyvulys666,you -personally you- are asking me about CODE ,using this in the cristian religion special number( serie) ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r1OnVxfy6iM


But we are here in a scientifical interest related forum with several treats,this here the Figuera-Buforn Jacas wheel device with final construction target in mind ,special technical link,magnetic force field amplify array device,Hallbach to Ronbach,with special advice from my side to ask yourselfs about
the angular momentum effect : http://www.google.com/patents/US8514047


Have a fine weekend whereever you live life(real) ;) :)
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4135 on: October 08, 2016, 05:00:43 AM »
Hello hanon,
I have no problem with your explanation !


If you read the whole forum even some posts I did in 2013 you will see that from that date I defend the poles in repulsion design while the user you mentioned only used north-south polarity in his post and designs. I did not convince him of my point and he did not convince me of his proposal. If you really want to understand the patents you just have to read them tens of times as I did and analyze them in detail.Less reading of strange and unrelated patents are you post here daily and more reading of Figuera patents, especially the one written in 1908. This is the key.
Good luck and keep on searching for more patents..



" Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE"

Imagine this would be the drive from an vtol : how many transmission steps you want to have ?
         
               think 4Dimensional,but begin with a conventional car drive
               then think on land,under sea and on air


you are both right !     The Wheel : cw and ccw ; Audi Quatro transmission ? 4 X wheel-e-drives ?

                                    engine propulsion and transmission probably as automatic (solar-planet-gear)

                                   all terrain and spaces vehicle

Do you really think that I am in search ?


Sincerely
              OCWL

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4136 on: October 09, 2016, 11:17:10 PM »
The objective of the commutator, also called part G


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4137 on: October 10, 2016, 10:51:54 PM »
@sequential 9
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The up grade on the new one is the ZEN SPITFIRE MEGA WATT ZERO POINT GENERATOR HAHAHAHAH AND YOU KNOW YOU CAN NEVER BEAT THAT ONE HAHAHHAAHAH LOL XXXX PS I WIN !!!


Uhm... actually no you do not win anything. Most here simply want to power there house off grid and a well made commutator could last 5 years before the brushes would need to be replaced. Now lets do the math, $12 every 5 years for brushes and bearings in a $400 machine and in return we can power our house off grid, I can live with that, not a problem. You see you do not win anything because it was never a contest and when we collectively nail this technology it will be free for all to build and use. Sorry about your luck dipshit.


As well if you had any idea of what we were actually talking about you would know this device does not use magnets hence your last post is pointless. You do know the patent in question was from 1908 predating all the supposed American patents you referred to don't you?. Which is kind of neat in my opinion because once the device and it's operation are proven it supersedes most all other patents and falls squarely withing the public realm of ownership. The gift that just keeps on giving.






AC

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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4138 on: October 11, 2016, 12:57:56 AM »
Hello Sequental.9,becoming such exagerated:
you remeber me about inventors like them here https://www.patentauction.com/patent.php?nb=7535                   

patentauction.com has got some of this profiles !


200 (british ?)pounds(453 Gr./0,453 Kg  ?) for 1000 KWp Work force ?
100 Kg device weight and 1 MWp output ?

                               Productionprices,well done organization(!), 50 Euros/net per Kg ?

          I "say" to you in written kind ," YES,really impressive numbers !"


                                       "Caution !" my first though/thinking !


 Possibility through " SUPERPOSITION"-technology cause you are using "superconductive coils",
                                     is it not ?


Sincerely
               OCWL


p.s.: Sequental.9,do you are or know something about Adolf H.Zielinski ?


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Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4139 on: October 11, 2016, 04:53:19 PM »
You can call it a thread hijacking or also a menthal diarrhea

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