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Offline gotoluc

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Explanation of GOD
« on: September 25, 2012, 09:36:21 PM »
This new topic was started to reply to a post from another topic to avoid cluttering it with an off topic discussion.

Hi folks, Hi gadget, there is no them, there is only us, that maybe is one of the things humanity needs to learn.
If you fight another, you are fighting yourself.
The human garment (body) is used to experience the perception of separation, their truly is no separation of anything, even if the object seems inanimate.
A tree branch would not battle with another tree branch, for it knows it is one and the same.
Though a tree branch has it somewhat easier, as it can see the root from where it comes from, where as, our roots are not as visible to the human eye.
And if we all could see these energetic roots, we would never think about harming another, which is ourselves, no matter what illusion is cast before our eyes.
You speak of the government taking away rights, we have done that to ourselves, by believing we are all separate, they have only used this ignorance to their advantage.
Forgive that link i posted, as before, they did not have all those deceptive link buttons.
Hope that pdf had some value to it.
peace love light
tyson ;)

Hi Tyson,

everything you say is what I have come to understand.

Our Truth is, all is One (no duality), merged in Timeless Infinite Knowledge and Bliss.
When in that supreme state of being, One cannot realize the magnitude of it all since all is together at all times (timeless & undivided).
Knowing that, the One created the Universe out of Love and Compassion to give itself infinite and individual measurable experiences of everything we can be.
Duality and cause and effect were the main governing laws of creation in order to have a measurable experience and to keep balance.
We (One) all agreed to this and were eager to play this new game and jumped into creation (big bang)
Although we don't remember this, creation was designed in a way that our lives would provide lessons created by cause and effect (aka Karma) and eventually through these life lessons we may come to understand or realize the original intent of Creation.
From this knowledge one should also understand that desires for things of this world (me attitude) will keep us locked in (story of Adam & Eve)
Find the way back home (within) by being your truth which is loving and accepting for All of creation as you did in the beginning as it is perfection in the making. You are not here to judge. Remember, you came to get the gift of individual experiences which you could not experience it this way before creation.
When you understanding this you understand Jesus and all other prophets way of life which was to teach mankind by example that when physically living your truth it will free one of perpetual cycles of births since the law of cause and effect will no longer have effect on one who is the same as the source.
This explains: do as I do and the kingdom of my father will be yours
Correct actions (way of life) come from knowledge of truth and is worth more than prayers or knowing all the spiritual scriptures of this world.

May mankind come to re-discover or understand his original self so we can help one another out.

Love all serve all

Luc

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Explanation of GOD
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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2012, 11:31:28 PM »
"People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." - Albert Einstein


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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2012, 12:40:15 AM »
gotoluk .i agree with  everything you say but there is a separate entity. There is good and Evil  US and Them .
This is where we must all open our eyes to see Them and know that we are not one with them.

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I do not know if you live i the Usa or not but we are being lead by them to stray us from God .That is Those who make ridiculous rules and laws to control our lives away from God's and bring tension to our hearts. Even in the days where Jesus walked among them he also was a revolutionary and saw they were evil and thieves of souls. Collecting every thing from his people to pay the king of Rome. In that respect is the way it is now here in the USA . Divided for that reason .
No one  Likes the Tax collector .

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edit: I embrace God and Jesus . You will see the day come in your lifetime. You deny his word and turn away and he will do the same to you and leave you to die.We are not One. Us and Them .
« Last Edit: September 26, 2012, 04:25:24 AM by gadgetmall »

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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2012, 12:59:08 AM »
I was born and grown in a Christian family (Roman-Catholic) but evolved after reading the Bible (it took me about a year) and now I'm closer to Gotoluc and farther to Gadgetmall.


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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2012, 02:24:14 AM »
gotoluk .i agree with  everything you say but there is a separate entity. There is good and Evil  US and Them .
This is where we must all open our eyes to see Them and know that we are not one with them.

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I do not know if you live i the Usa or not but we are being lead by them to stray us from God .That is Those who make ridiculous rules and laws to control our lives away from God's and bring tension to our hearts. Even in the days where Jesus walked among them he also was a revolutionary and saw they were evil and thieves of souls. Collecting every thing from his people to pay the king of Rome. In that respect is the way it is now here in the USA . Divided for that reason .
Now Like the Tax collector .

gadget

Gadget, I can not speak for gotoluk, but I would say that it comes down to: how big is our God?

A god who shares a universe with a power of evil, is a very small god. A god which is only a piece of the whole. This is the same limited idea of God that the three Abrahamic religions share.  I feel that what gotoluk, is sharing, is a sense of God that truly has no beginning and no end. A God who is always bigger, and never less.

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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2012, 02:42:48 AM »
Gadget, I can not speak for gotoluk, but I would say that it comes down to: how big is our God?

A god who shares a universe with a power of evil, is a very small god. A god which is only a piece of the whole. This is the same limited idea of God that the three Abrahamic religions share.  I feel that what gotoluk, is sharing, is a sense of God that truly has no beginning and no end. A God who is always bigger, and never less.


Hi buddy  :D


Can you see the sun? is it big?


i think a creator of the sun is much more bigger than his creation.  :-\

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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2012, 02:52:09 AM »
Hello All,
 
My spirit is grieved over the conversations being posted here and the other thread, trying to "define" the Creator, calling Jesus, the Lord of Glory, a "prophet" to be compared with others. Etc, ad nasua, emphasis on nausua.  You all speak of that which you neither know nor understand.  ALL religions of man are Satanic in origen and demonic in purpose, whose ultimate goal is the damnation of the human soul.  TRUE religion is to visit the widows and orphans in their need, the Bible says. 

NONE of you need the religions of man but rather a changed heart and changed life.  And that can only be found in a RELATIONSHIP with the Lord Jesus Christ.  All of the difference between knowing ABOUT someone and KNOWING someone.  Self righteousness will not save your soul for we are all wicked to the core.  New Age mumbo jumbo, singing kumba ya, won't help either.

For there is indeed a day coming when Christ shall judge the living and the dead, and we shall each give an account of ourselves before God.  Yes, the Bible says that even every idle word spoken shall be given an account there of.  Oh foolish man, who has warned you to escape the wrath to come?  The world spins closer each day to the fulfillment of all things and still the Holy Spirit of God cries out, still tugging on the heartstrings of man, giving another opportunity to repent, to turn from our wicked ways and to confess with our mouth that Jesus Christ is your Lord.  He alone is God, the Saviour of the World, as it is written, "every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess to the glory of God, that Jesus Christ is Lord."

Mohammed will bow his knees to Jesus.  Budda will bow his knees to Jesus.  Satan will bow his knees to Jesus.  YOU will bow your knees to Jesus.  Do it now and he will give you a new life and the promised indwelling of His Holy Spirit.  Don't, and you will certainly do so in the life to come.

To all of the atheists, unbelievers, etc., just remember, that your doubt and unbelief neither moves God from his throne, nor changes a thing regarding the ultimate outcome.  Only FAITH moves God, for he who comes to God MUST believe that he IS, and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek after him.  For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him.  Ask Christ (Messiah) Jesus into your life now, while you yet have a little time.  For our life is as a vapor of smoke, here one day, and gone the next.

 
His servant,
 
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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2012, 03:55:12 AM »
he was born of a virgin on december 25 and, as the holy child, was placed in a manger. he was a traveling teacher who performed miracles. he rode in a triumphal procession on an ass. he was a sacred king, killed and eaten in an eucharistic ritual for fecundity and purification. he rose from the dead on march 25. he was the god of the vine, and turned water into wine. he was called “king of kings” and “god of gods.” he was considered the “only begotten son”, “savior”, “redeemer”, “sin bearer”, “anointed one” and the “alpha and omega”. he was identified with the ram or lamb.

he is dionysus, worshiped 1500 years before christ.

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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2012, 03:58:14 AM »
as it is written, "every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess to the glory of God, that Jesus Christ is Lord."

Mohammed will bow his knees to Jesus.  Budda will bow his knees to Jesus.  Satan will bow his knees to Jesus.  YOU will bow your knees to Jesus.
bruce you were lied to...

and the ahh... the idea of kneeling, it's... you see, logically kicking the crap out of all your asinine, fantastical claims has left a nasty cramp in my leg... so kneeling won't be happening for me...

if your imaginary godfairy savior/creator friend wants my knees, tell him/her... molon labe

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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2012, 04:26:38 AM »
Qwert . what kind of drugs are you on?

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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2012, 04:43:07 AM »

Hi buddy  :D


Can you see the sun? is it big?


i think a creator of the sun is much more bigger than his creation.  :-\
Hello Tito / No . God is a lot bigger than that little sun.
He is God of the Universe .And we are not his only creation . He created everything including knowledge and then came free will ,Sin which is the Devil . He created the Heavens the Galaxy's and the black holes . . . The difference in God is he gave you a choice . It is a simple choice . Either live your  life in sin and die or live your life as He asked ,Jesus Died for your sins and accept him as you Saviour and have eternal life . Period. And he asked me to tell you about him and be saved and he told me if you shutter and deny him then i am too dust my boot straps and turn away . .

Amen Praise God
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2012, 07:42:11 AM »
You all speak of that which you neither know nor understand.

This is a judgmental statement to which will cause division. If you truly practice the teachings of Jesus you would not think, say or write such a thing. 

You wrote: "the Bible says that even every idle word spoken shall be given an account there of."
I agree with this!... as it is the law of cause and effect I speak of. However, you judge me to not know as I'm not writing it in the way it is written in your Bible or the way you wish to understand it. So you may need to account for your judgement.

You also wrote: "NONE of you need the religions of man but rather a changed heart and changed life."
I agree with this and wrote it this way: "Correct actions (way of life) come from knowledge of truth and is worth more than prayers or knowing all the spiritual scriptures of this world."
but you say: "You all speak of that which you neither know nor understand."
Is what I'm writing so different and non understandable then the way you wrote it?

You say: "NONE of you need the religions of man"
However,  the Bible you base your knowledge on has been written by many men and also many times. So how can you be so sure some of it is not the religions of man?

You say: "And that can only be found in a RELATIONSHIP with the Lord Jesus Christ."
This again is a judgmental statement that has cause division and wars. Jesus never would of said such a thing, as it is an Egoistic statement and would only cause trouble. It is man not able to understand "my Father and I are one" and reinterpreting it thinking Jesus was saying he is God and the only way.
My explanation even explains Jesus statement of: my Father and I are one... "Our Truth is, all is One (no duality)"

You wrote: "Only FAITH moves God, for he who comes to God MUST believe that he IS, and that he is a rewarder of those who diligently seek after him.  For the eyes of the LORD run to and fro throughout the whole earth, to shew himself strong in the behalf of them whose heart is perfect toward him."

I agree with this statement.  It is also contained in my explanation "when physically living your truth it will free one of perpetual cycles of births since the law of cause and effect will no longer have effect on one who is the same as the source."

I like the way you wrote it or it is written in the Bible since it can include all faiths who practice faith towards God, the Creator or Creation.

So as you see we are talking of the same thing. You will find common elements in all faiths or seekers of truth.
However, what ever part of a spiritual teaching that is none inclusive, dividing or non loving, this is what has been changed by man for his own reasons. It is up to us to identify these problems by using a loving common sense and only apply what will elevate every one.

Sincerely

Luc


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Re: Explanation of GOD
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2012, 11:57:26 AM »
Dave Allen remembers his introduction to religion - his first day of school!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxo81Ok9Urk

Dave Allen's thoughts about Adam and Eve
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=BGASvVqzOa0&NR=1


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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 10:39:45 AM »
With all this chat about God. Can someone explain to me why 1/3rd of all the angels would take up with Lucifer and leave heaven?.

I mean I was taught as a child heaven was perfect. Yet the angels got so pi**ed they up and left. not even a cheerio or a hows your mother!

I hope God doesn't treat me like he obviously treated the angels. I mean he may decide he no longer cares for his human creation and move on to something else.

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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2012, 11:50:06 AM »
  please insert the Jin-Jang symbol here !                 
 
With this little symbol you can explain everything !!
 
Imagine the white being a dynamic system.
Then the black is a equal but opposite dynamic system.
They are tied together.
 
You grow the white, then the black shrinks and you got a tension.
You can push this to extreme, you get maximal tension.
Behind this sticky point it becomes meaningless. 
All dynamic gone !
Only at equilibrium the dynamic is maximum.
There you find harmonics.
 
Let’s try to explain everything.
 
Imagine God being a tall fellow with a beard.
Then Lilith is a woman upside down and invisible.
They are bound together and develop maximal dynamism,
when they are equal (but opposite).
 
 
Allow me a first conclusion:
Killing the devil (or ignoring Lilith) is meaningless.
Homosexuality is meaningless.
Paint the black side white, or the white side black.
The result is meaningless !
There is no dynamism at all.
This is also the crime of the church. She is hiding half of truth
from us for century’s. THEY should know better !!!
 
Imagine a fertilised cell. (God and Lilith)
Their dynamism is the Holy Spirit.
Equal but opposite the cell splits. (Adam and Eve)
This means that WE are half God, halve Lilith.
Spiritual conscious and unconscious
With growing unconsciousness you go into psychiatry.
Materially we are controlled by nervus sympaticus and nervus parasympaticus (vagus).
Tension between them is called illness
Harmony between them is called enlightenment, heaven on earth.
Not the big hallelujah, but de deepest feeling, that everything is right. 
 
The words I used are not important. Just try to see the picture.
Please criticize or challenge me !!
 
Peter
 

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