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Offline itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17700 on: August 12, 2017, 11:06:55 AM »
AG,

i tried a TVS (54V) across the drain / source, but it started smoking after a few seconds, even when putting 2 in series (108V) they smoke quickly.
I guess the spike (400V) is to high / broad to be tamed by a TVS.   I did tame the spike though.

Then i tried an additional diode across the installed RC snubber resistor creating an RCD snubber, but allthough it caused the spike to be lowered to about 330V, it
started now frying the resistor in the snubber.   
Guess i need a bigger (2W) snubber resistor (180 Ohm in my case).

Finally i used on top of the earlier calculated RC snubber (to tame the ringing) the snubber setup from Oleg, see picture below.
It reduces the spike to about 150V.
It creates some extra ringing, but that is quite minimal.
I had 1 MOSFET starting to oscillate sometimes, but was able to tackle that with using these small ferrite beads on the MOSFETs gate leads.

This Oleg snubber consists of 2x UF4007 diodes VD6 and VD7, a 1uF capacitor C15 and a 1K resistor R26 (1W in my case).

Perhaps it could be improved upon by using a high quality ceramic cap, and/or schottky diodes.
Nothing gets hot quickly now.

Perhaps i need to install this Oleg snubber first, then calculate a snubber for the ringing.

The ringing RC snubber is directly across the MOSFETs drain / source,  the Oleg spike snubber is across the Yoke primaries.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17700 on: August 12, 2017, 11:06:55 AM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17701 on: August 12, 2017, 01:30:58 PM »
AG,

i tried a TVS (54V) across the drain / source, but it started smoking after a few seconds, even when putting 2 in series (108V) they smoke quickly.
I guess the spike (400V) is to high / broad to be tamed by a TVS.   I did tame the spike though.

Then i tried an additional diode across the installed RC snubber resistor creating an RCD snubber, but allthough it caused the spike to be lowered to about 330V, it
started now frying the resistor in the snubber.   
Guess i need a bigger (2W) snubber resistor (180 Ohm in my case).

Finally i used on top of the earlier calculated RC snubber (to tame the ringing) the snubber setup from Oleg, see picture below.
It reduces the spike to about 150V.
It creates some extra ringing, but that is quite minimal.
I had 1 MOSFET starting to oscillate sometimes, but was able to tackle that with using these small ferrite beads on the MOSFETs gate leads.

This Oleg snubber consists of 2x UF4007 diodes VD6 and VD7, a 1uF capacitor C15 and a 1K resistor R26 (1W in my case).

Perhaps it could be improved upon by using a high quality ceramic cap, and/or schottky diodes.
Nothing gets hot quickly now.

Perhaps i need to install this Oleg snubber first, then calculate a snubber for the ringing.

The ringing RC snubber is directly across the MOSFETs drain / source,  the Oleg spike snubber is across the Yoke primaries.


Itsu
yes that's the type of circuit I'm using I have IRF 150' since day one although I did try a FAST IGBT that worked too with over shoots. Now I have IRF150 I don't get any over shoots or heating at all but my yoke is a toroid wound bi-filar as I said with 8+8 turns the dead zone if filled with sine waves (harmonics). The Russians used a barium based yoke, I don't think many will have this it's the key as and its all done in the coils as far as I can see.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17702 on: August 12, 2017, 02:01:43 PM »
The Russians used a barium based yoke, I don't think many will have this it's the key as and its all done in the coils as far as I can see.

Yes, If these devices are genuine, then I too believe this is probably the key. I mentioned this along time back but have never been able to source a supply. Apparently some of the vintage 60's loudspeaker magnets and radio rod aerials had barium content.This is a primary reason why I stopped experimenting. Like Nick. I'm also concerned that the modus operandi might be NMR.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17703 on: August 12, 2017, 06:16:34 PM »
   I doubt it Hoppy. As Tariel did not even have a yoke on his device. Just air.
So, then NMR from the air?  Maybe,  that's what Akula said, according to T-1000. But again,  I doubt it.

   I was up till 1am again last night working on this spike/ringing snubber protection thing, which is no easy matter to achieve.
   I'm still working on it.
   
    Itsu: So, what exact ringing frequency should I be aiming for then? Around 900KHz, or so? In order to tame the ringing to 1/2.
As it's a bit confusing to me still especially when using this older scope with no readings to go by, and having to do all the math.        I may not have all the exact needed capacitors for this test, either. Therefore I don't have a full assortment to chose from.
Should I try a 102, instead of the 152, or the 222. I tried the varistor 14D271 on as well. But, it doesn't drop the voltage under 200v.  So, I'll stop trying to get the voltage down under 200v, for now, and focus on the 1/2 ringing frequency.

   Once I can also get the ringing down to under 160v or so, I'll place the new fets on. As the new fet could fry before I know it, at 250v or higher voltages. And I don't have access to other car bulbs for now.
   If I use a 12v power source (7AH battery) for the yoke input, won't that change the ringing frequency? And confuse the needed ringing clamp voltages?
 
    The older fets are working well enough to test with, and get into the snubber ball park. Once those fet are working under 200v, I'll place the new fets on. And also re-test and re-adjust the snubber ringing using a higher load at the bulbs.
Maybe one of my new 200w bulbs, (or two, or three bulbs) on the output should drop the voltage somewhat. 
On the Mazilli those bulbs would actually raise the voltage, instead of dropping it.

   I'm wondering now, what will happen when I connect my Kacher onto the induction circuit. It has 5mm streamers, so it's over 5000v. What will happen then... Should I look for smoke signals? While keeping the scope further away from the flames.
Anyways, I'm not there yet.
 


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17704 on: August 12, 2017, 07:07:33 PM »
   I doubt it Hoppy. As Tariel did not even have a yoke on his device.
 

A yoke is not the be all or end all Nick for use as a transformer core.  Anyway, could you see inside Tariels green box or tin box etc?? Even my magnifying glass won't let me do that. ;D

You will be wasting your time with working out the snubber values using your 24V bulb, as you need to have a supply current that is limited but in the same ball park as that expected when you have a reasonablly sized lamp load. This is why I suggested that you get hold of a couple of 12V/50W auto lamps that will give you up to around an 8A draw with two in series / parallel or 4A with just one in series with the PSU supply line.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17705 on: August 12, 2017, 07:26:00 PM »

Nick,

you should try to half the ringing frequency you have, by adding a cap across the drain / source.
A lower voltage should not influence this ringing frequency as it mainly is caused by the inductances and capacitances of your yoke coils (primary and secondaries).

Last screenshot you showed a ringing frequency of 1.98Mhz, so based on that you should try to aim for 900Khz ringing frequency by adding a cap.
I think it would be more easy for you to wait for your new scope which probably shows you the ringing frequency (expanded) in boxes on the screen.

I cannot calculate this half ringing frequency for you as you have a unique setup there, so you have to find it yourself by trying out different values of caps.
The procedure i have linked says to start with 100pF and continue from there untill you find the correct cap.
You don't have to solder in the caps each time, just carefully make a connection with a drain / source and see on your scope what it does.
You should see a double time inbetween the 2 ringing peaks, that means half the frequency.


My kacher had little or no effect on the yoke signals, but it could influence / damage electronic stuff around it (scopes, PS's, DMM's, laptops, etc.).

Itsu


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17706 on: August 12, 2017, 08:03:29 PM »
A yoke is not the be all or end all Nick for use as a transformer core.  Anyway, could you see inside Tariels green box or tin box etc?? Even my magnifying glass won't let me do that. ;D

You will be wasting your time with working out the snubber values using your 24V bulb, as you need to have a supply current that is limited but in the same ball park as that expected when you have a reasonablly sized lamp load. This is why I suggested that you get hold of a couple of 12V/50W auto lamps that will give you up to around an 8A draw with two in series / parallel or 5A with just one in series with the PSU supply line.
The Hoppy / Nick transformer thing there is another device where some guy (i don't know SR193) forget his name uses a similar size  tube with a EHT driver and winding driven by a tuned frequency and what looks like a grenade on top a bit like the Don Smith thing) my point is this (ignoring negative stupidity) as Nick said no yoke, well if he uses no yoke the must go in at HF end  the frequency) are you with me up till now ?  well if the Mustash WV is 3 x F what is F ? or perhaps a harmonic all you have to go is find your magic frequency where you live and you're in business? but at a perhaps reduced power? if the phenomena works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g

Also TK clip with subtitles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4fEkoPQIQo
« Last Edit: August 12, 2017, 10:16:43 PM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17707 on: August 12, 2017, 10:04:04 PM »
About Kapanadze 2004 year device : there is a very interesting moment when he cannot get spark from the inverter powered by a battery and they talk about battery being flat.

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« Reply #17708 on: August 13, 2017, 02:40:35 PM »
I'm also concerned that the modus operandi might be NMR.
It is not NMR of ferrite mix. Take Sergey Alekseew device as example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFQvMjj6DD4
There is just isolating transformer on the ring and it is only one function there.

What akula and others were pointing to, it is possibe to harness electricity from air as we live inside of planetary scale charged capacitor 24x7 and all we need is to leak it into our energy conversion devices...

Cheers!

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« Reply #17709 on: August 13, 2017, 03:22:08 PM »
It is not NMR of ferrite mix. Take Sergey Alekseew device as example - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFQvMjj6DD4
There is just isolating transformer on the ring and it is only one function there.

What akula and others were pointing to, it is possibe to harness electricity from air as we live inside of planetary scale charged capacitor 24x7 and all we need is to leak it into our energy conversion devices...

Cheers!
Yes Arunus I posted stuff on this a  while back last year and so did you I seem to remember

I got back was aggressive comments from those who should know better!
We live in a large capacitor the sky is positive and the ground is negative, but others tell me I'm wrong am I ;)

Anyway thanks for the info ! have you ever noticed how water runs of a ducks back ;) perhaps this helps.

Allen

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17710 on: August 13, 2017, 03:46:43 PM »
:o
Just out of curiosity,  has Stefan gone away without appointing someone else as a moderator
in the mean time? When people who are quite obviously mentally disturbed/mentally ill or
who otherwise are just here to disrupt discussions are allowed to post a lot of nonsense like this it
 it can make it pretty hard to carry on meaningful discussions.  ???
I have been seeing these kind of disruptive trash and nonsense postings from 'AlienGrey' for quite a while now. ;)
This forum could use a moderator...  :D

It is not disruptive nor am I misleading nonsense and I don't have a mental health problem unless you're a liar, I don't like liars! Anyway I gave you a lot of information Void and all you came back with is post after post saying everything is a fraud misleading video information and the above, which is destroying the thread, I would suggest you create your own thread on things you have issues with, and see how far you get.

PS on another subject, thanks for your rude misguided slanderous remarks Void ! you ignorant bigot! ;)

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17711 on: August 13, 2017, 05:58:17 PM »
The Hoppy / Nick transformer thing there is another device where some guy (i don't know SR193) forget his name uses a similar size  tube with a EHT driver and winding driven by a tuned frequency and what looks like a grenade on top a bit like the Don Smith thing) my point is this (ignoring negative stupidity) as Nick said no yoke, well if he uses no yoke the must go in at HF end  the frequency) are you with me up till now ?  well if the Mustash WV is 3 x F what is F ? or perhaps a harmonic all you have to go is find your magic frequency where you live and you're in business? but at a perhaps reduced power? if the phenomena works.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rbkvXoDfk7g

Also TK clip with subtitles https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4fEkoPQIQo

Not familiar with that one.

Just watched it again and saw this LOL statement in the subtitle bar: "I wanted to use battery for start-up but sady its dead."  ;D Has he never learnt how to re-charge a 9V battery from a bench supply enough to start the device.  :( Yet he claims he has built a device that powers his bulb on free energy.  ::)


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17712 on: August 13, 2017, 08:26:08 PM »
About Kapanadze 2004 year device : there is a very interesting moment when he cannot get spark from the inverter powered by a battery and they talk about battery being flat.

Thank you forest. I was wondering what Kapanadze was talking about in that section of the
2004 video. I would be interested to hear what else he said about this and the sparkgap.
All the best...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17713 on: August 13, 2017, 08:35:13 PM »
It is not disruptive...

AlienGrey, my comment was in regard to your insulting and rude comments to me and others here,
when there is just no need for that whatsoever. I have seen this same behavior from you on numerous
occasions here. If you want people to treat you respectfully, you need to treat them respectfully.
To be frank, many of the other comments you make here as well often do not make much sense, so that is
probably another reason why people often do not respond to you. Please stop the insults and spamming.
Thank you.




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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17714 on: August 13, 2017, 08:39:45 PM »
Yes, If these devices are genuine, then I too believe this is probably the key. I mentioned this along time back but have never been able to source a supply. Apparently some of the vintage 60's loudspeaker magnets and radio rod aerials had barium content.This is a primary reason why I stopped experimenting. Like Nick. I'm also concerned that the modus operandi might be NMR.

Hi Hoppy. I am still on the fence on the NMR thing.
Some demonstrations by some people seemed to suggest that something like that might
be the case, and then some other demonstrations by others seem to suggest otherwise. :)
There is also the possibility that some of what we have been seeing in different demos is
making use of different effects. ;D


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