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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 11718926 times)

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10110 on: September 02, 2015, 06:26:55 PM »
  Well, at the moment I can show you how to burn up some fets...

  I've changed the UR 306 diodes which were my cross-over diodes, (which tested ok on a meter), to the smaller UF 4004, and a IN5380. As I don't have any of the UR4007, that are recommended in the diagram that I posted, and to which TK made some changes to.
  I also added another pair of brand new IRFP250N fets, as well.  Same thing, the fets are untouchable in seconds, and 200w load is nicely lit, although partially. The fets heat up even with a 10w bulb. It just takes longer.  No protection diode on the circuit yet.
  So, Yes, something is wrong, but, I'll find it, and when I do I get back to the scope shots, and such, or even before I find what's up.  Maybe it all working normally, I dunno.
   
  Hoppy: The effect has been shown by both Akula and Ruslan. The ability of a device to be able to have an effective feed back loop, is depended on this "effect", which has to be obtained, FIRST.  Otherwise, we're pissing into the wind.


  EDIT:  I just tried the device without any load, and without the two yoke secondary coils (28t, and the 3 turn coil) connected to the grenade. The new fets are still untouchable in just a few seconds, (with no fans or heat sinks). I'm just testing the Mazilli with no load, nor any output coils connected, at this time. And it still gets way too hot.  So, I'm looking for the problem.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10111 on: September 02, 2015, 06:38:42 PM »
   Otherwise, we're pissing into the wind.

 ;D Yes and we're knee deep in it already!

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10112 on: September 02, 2015, 06:49:00 PM »
  Check the edit above. 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10113 on: September 02, 2015, 07:29:44 PM »
So, I'm looking for the problem.

Can you see any dead-time between the on-time of the two transistors?

If you can't, there's your problem.

AlienGrey

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10114 on: September 02, 2015, 07:49:06 PM »
Nick what do you need to light a 200 W bulb of Katcher for, thought i read in Tesla's stuff the energy from the katcher the top end is maximum voltage and the bottom should be maximum current and thus has no where to go so it sinks into the ground via the ground link as the top end of the coil 'resonator' Katcher is or should be high impedance, unless the frequency is off then the energy goes back into the driver and 'bang'.
You do know how it works don't you ? again whats the lemgth of wire in your katcher ?????????????????????????????????????????????? eh ?

2mhz is 150 m 1mhz is 300 ect     ?    have you got a signal generator to see the peeks at the frequency of your grenade coil on your scope ?
« Last Edit: September 03, 2015, 12:09:59 AM by AlienGrey »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10115 on: September 03, 2015, 06:01:52 AM »
  Dog:
  I've also changed some more components, thinking there must be something wrong with one of them. So, I replaced both 10k resistors, with new ones, and replaced the two cross-over diodes again, to two IN5398, this time. 
Same thing, still overheating... But, if I don't connect the grenade's output coil, and just run the 3 turns coil/inductor circuit, there is no heating at all. This is also using brand new fets, which seam to working ok. Nice clean wave forms on the scope, from both fets, although one of fets has a slightly higher output, than the other one. I'll show it once I get this heating issue solved, and can get back to tuning.

  Alien:
  I don't know how long my Kacher's secondary coil is anymore, as I've added and removed turns a couple of times. I think that I started with about 19m, which is about 1/2 the size of the 37.5 meter grenade output coil. But I'm not sure how long it is now.
  I get a nice sign wave form from my Kacher driver, and at the antenna  coil.  I don't know what frequency it's running at yet. Sorry, I'll know more about that some time soon, but in any case I'm not tuning for a certain set frequency, like 1.5mhz, as my set up is not the same or just like Ruslans, or Akulas, I wish it were.  Although my grenade coils are similar.
 
    The new Ruslan grenade output coil is now 40m long, and it's frequency has now dropped to about 15khz, from the 27.3khz that it was running at previously. And his kacher is now running at around 1.5mhz, down from 1.7mhz it was at before.
  So, take your pick of which size to follow, and which frequency try to tune for.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10116 on: September 03, 2015, 08:44:04 AM »
Nick ok so in that case thats about 15.7 Mhz the katcher coil want to run at in theory, but you must have a 'huge' capacitor across that coil what sort of quality is it ?  you need to get another scope channel working on your 37.5 meter coil and look at the wave form of that, it should be 4 times slower than the katcher frequency so it will look 4 times wider so the katcher wave form will fit 4 times into the grenade wave form or 8 or 16 exactly, but it's a wast and your going up in frequency. You might have to alter that cap across the katcher to alter the frequency (is the cap also getting hot ) ?.  it needs to be a good quality here not a crap 100htz one or it will get hot and die. good luck 

| ------!------!------!------! katcher  4 times faster  This was covered in a couple of postings
| ---------------------------| grenade coil                   at least once in English, but it has been
                                                                             talked about on the Russian forum.
Grenade should be a 1/4 speed of katcher.


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10117 on: September 03, 2015, 09:00:17 AM »
Grenade should be a 1/4 speed of katcher.

One quarter?

I thought the Tesla coil was suppose to be running at 100 times the frequency of the grenade coil.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10118 on: September 03, 2015, 01:42:47 PM »
Hi
I was a little  move on with the subject from the conventional version TL494 going trace Ruslan I tried a chip SG3525A.
and the system works but I had to make some changes and still I can not find the cause of the inclined front view: OSC_OUT_KEY.
I thought it was the voltage drop across the resistor, but the cause lies somewhere? the mode when I mentioned potentiometers to 600K. I have more regulations but the time range of pulses varies saw more in shape.
« Last Edit: September 03, 2015, 10:43:51 PM by Tomtech29 »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10119 on: September 03, 2015, 01:44:05 PM »
Here is a screenshot:

Tomtech29

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10120 on: September 03, 2015, 02:02:24 PM »
-on some of the films Ruslan system uses the system to sync where he hooked? (or plugged it straight to the comparator?)
if anyone can do the trick suggest something how do I connect whether it is worthwhile to check it out?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10121 on: September 03, 2015, 04:23:24 PM »
  Dog:
  I've also changed some more components, thinking there must be something wrong with one of them. So, I replaced both 10k resistors, with new ones, and replaced the two cross-over diodes again, to two IN5398, this time. 
Same thing, still overheating... But, if I don't connect the grenade's output coil, and just run the 3 turns coil/inductor circuit, there is no heating at all. This is also using brand new fets, which seam to working ok. Nice clean wave forms on the scope, from both fets, although one of fets has a slightly higher output, than the other one. I'll show it once I get this heating issue solved, and can get back to tuning.


Nick,

Do you have a ferrite core in your grenade coil. If so, how is the heating affected when you remove the ferrite?

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10122 on: September 03, 2015, 04:47:51 PM »
-on some of the films Ruslan system uses the system to sync where he hooked? (or plugged it straight to the comparator?)
if anyone can do the trick suggest something how do I connect whether it is worthwhile to check it out?

Good day Tomtech29

See attached screenshot from Oleg. This is from his Youtube channel:

take care, peace
lost_bro

NickZ

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10123 on: September 03, 2015, 04:56:59 PM »
  Hoppy:
   I've always had ferrite pieces in my grenade former tube, as that's how I tune the frequency. But, I've never had this type of intense overheating. It's seams that the Mazilli driver is fine, but there may be something wrong with the 28 turns on the yoke. As everything is fine until I connect up that coil to the grenade. Then the system is heavily loaded, even without a load from the bulbs.
  As this is a new 24v yoke coils system. There may be something wrong there, like possibly wrong winding direction, maybe.
 I wound the new yoke coils with the primary coil and 28 turns secondary coil, and the 3 turns coil (6 turns now), on this yoke ALL in a clockwise direction. But, my older 12v yoke coil was wound with the 3 turns coil opposite (CCW) the other two yoke coils which are CW.
  With of without ferrite tuning cores inside of the grenade, same thing, still the same amount of heat on the fets.
Actually, I have not been using the ferrite inside the grenade, at this time. So, it is not the cause of the heating.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #10124 on: September 03, 2015, 05:01:17 PM »
Hi
I was a little odejde with the subject from the conventional version TL494 going trace Ruslan I tried a chip SG3525A.
and the system works but I had to make some changes and still I can not find the cause of the inclined front view: OSC_OUT_KEY.
I thought it was the voltage drop across the resistor, but the cause lies somewhere? the mode when I mentioned potentiometers to 600K. I have more regulations but the time range of pulses varies saw more in shape.

Good day Tomtech29

In regards to the  slow rising edge on the sg3525 generated waveform:

1. Try a different driver; ie IXSY609,  IXDN614 etc, these all have superfast Schmidt waveform shapers at the input, will clean up almost any slow rising edge.

2. SG3525 is mostly used at lower frequencies, ie: DC/AC inverters @ 35-55kHz.  I personally have used the  *faster* SG3825AN to replace it, although it is NOT a direct drop replacement. Must re-route the pcb. 

3. For a fast rising edge/cleaner signal the CD4046BE configured as a simple VCO will work into the MHz range.

4. For an even faster and consistant rise/fall time, (30-35ns) see o-scope shot attached:   AD9850_dds, will work up to 40MHz with proper layout/design.  This o-scope shot is from an galvanically isolated GDT running SiCmosfets.

take care, peace
lost_bro