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T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9735 on: July 31, 2015, 02:42:08 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9736 on: July 31, 2015, 02:50:26 PM »
T1000- lets be real. I do not think Akula use that special material and definitely not cooling it down to -246 degrees :)
« Last Edit: July 31, 2015, 05:35:46 PM by John.K1 »

T-1000

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9737 on: July 31, 2015, 06:14:47 PM »
T1000- lets be real. I do not think Akula use that special material and definitely not cooling it down to -246 degrees :)

He is not but looking for composite alloys which would allow to do what he requires for magnetic properties manipulation - said in video.

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« Reply #9738 on: July 31, 2015, 06:58:42 PM »
He is not but looking for composite alloys which would allow to do what he requires for magnetic properties manipulation - said in video.

It is than easier to get some uranium and get much more of power from it :)  Just kidding. :)  All I want to say it is far from what Ruslan does and what we are trying to achieve.

Just as a bit push, watch this movie. I think I took it from Ruslan's YouTube collection. There are three parts and it is quite interesting to watch it. Especially the part #3.;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAoo7u1KVSU

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« Reply #9739 on: July 31, 2015, 09:13:19 PM »
The small power device has a combination of ferrite and magnets. In the last clip from Akula he has a dead neo magnet in the bottom and that is it will not stick to the ferrite that he pulls from the center ...

What he says is WRONG ..  The center is an iron ferrite. 

He has to cloud up this, as he has now fog up his design, china is his client..

Magnetostriction is just one part of his device , copper is 99.95%, impure copper is wrong.. Zero-Oxygen is also
needed as the composite right materials have an affect in the ability to make his devices work...

The de-magnetization of a neo magnet is very simple , however an iron- boron will take 1200 deg. to destroy the set domains..  and the re- magnetization is very hard.. That is why Floyd device used boron in his magnets..
This is a "magnetostriction device that he has shown"...

This is not a Ruslan design.. what so ever !!,

Acca....

p.s. look at the amount of energy that terfenol-D has,   and it's  a 10% expanding elastic structure..
        at 10,000 psi pressure .. 

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« Reply #9740 on: July 31, 2015, 09:26:46 PM »
Who is native russian speaking here ? I need to know what ruslan said about the direction of the pick up coil and current coil in his last movie I posted here earlier. I had problem to understand if he said they both are wound in the same or opposite direction. I have such feeling he said they are opposite ?

Someplace I saw Ruslan mention that you may have to reverse the polarity of the induction heater coil.  I'm assuming from the common schematic we have been working from.

I had to do this with my setup.  I was unable to discern from the video why this may be necessary.  I just tried it to see if I could achieve better tuning.  When I reversed it, I could get much higher output from the grenade coil.  I also saw an interesting phenomena...

When I would slowly sweep the frequency from low-to-high and then back, high-to-low, the amplitude would peak at a higher value going to low-to-high, than it would going back high-to-low.  The sine wave during the sweep would have a rolling motion to it.  For lack of a better word, I called it a pumping action.  Still not sure what this means or how it is happening.  I thought at first it must have something to do with the amperage draw and the intensity of the lamp connected.  I simply don't know, but felt it may be important.

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As for the magnetostriction via thermal manipulation concept currently being discussed, I can only say this...

If you have balanced coils connected together in somewhat of a bucking style arrangement, it only takes a very slight change in inductance of one coil to make a huge change in the total inductance of both coils.  Right?  Steady state the two coils are equal and opposite, meaning the total inductance is very small or near zero.  If you change one of them just a little bit, the balance is gone and now you have a total inductance equal to the difference of the two individual inductances.  So lets say you go from 0.1uH to 100uH.  This is a 3 orders of magnitude change; more than enough to take advantage of parametric oscillations.  So how might we cause this change and do it several thousand times per second?

First, lets consider the core.  If we have air cores for both coils, what happens when we hit just one of them with a high voltage impulse, just short of creating a corona?  There likely will be some heating of the air in that location.  How much heating is needed to change the inductive properties of the coil wrapped around that volume of air?  This heating we speak of, is it just a couple of degrees, tenths of a degree?  What is the tolerance necessary to make a significant change to the inductance of the coil?  If it is small, then the ambient cooling during off-time should be more than adequate to return the inductance back to steady state in micro-seconds.

I'm thinking if Akula can do this rapidly in ferrite, doing it in air should be even easier.  I suspect the trade-off is this:  In ferrite the changes happen slower, but the total change of inductance is larger.  Either way works.  The main requirement for the air core method is that you need a pair of tightly balanced coils to start with.  The better they are balanced, the smaller steady state inductance you start with, which means the larger overall change you can get.  If you can nailed down these factors, one should be able to design around it an optimal parametric oscillator.

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There is also another way to approach this, consider the copper wire...

Copper is diamagnetic right?  Meaning is has magnetic properties, but they are just on the other side of the scale.  Aluminum could also be tossed into this category.  When you wind a coil, certainly the magnetic properties of the wire you use contribute to the inductance of the coil you wound.  It seems very reasonable to me if you can find a thermal "sweet spot" in this material where just a small change in temperature makes a significant change in the magnetic properties, you can also make a significant change in the inductance.  Take this back to the balanced coils and parametric oscillator and again you have a method for power amplification.  All you need to control is the conditions in which it takes a very slight input to manipulate the magnetic properties of the material.


Having said all this, I don't know if any of it is the actual operating principal to the Ruslan device.  I'm not even sure Ruslan know exactly what makes his device operate.  He may think he does but actually be a level or two of abstraction away from the fundamental principal.  Akula on the other hand seems to have a much firmer grasp of the material science and is probably describing to us something we should consider and take advantage of.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9741 on: July 31, 2015, 09:27:24 PM »

Just as a bit push, watch this movie. I think I took it from Ruslan's YouTube collection. There are three parts and it is quite interesting to watch it. Especially the part #3. ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAoo7u1KVSU

This maybe a more worthwhile replication project to observe the 'effect'. However, his I/O power claims are iffy and do not appear to be based on good measurement.

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« Reply #9742 on: July 31, 2015, 10:16:55 PM »
  I'm not too impressed by the output of the incandescent bulb on that video, either. Not outputting 25 watts worth of light, more like 15 watts worth of output (lumins) to the bulb if that, from a 27 watt input.
  Kacher circuits are generally current hogs, unlike the Exciter circuits.

  Hoppy: Any suggestions as to how to go about connecting the HV Kacher coils to the output of the grenade directly, without the kacher driver circuit. A direct connection from the 168 turns coil, to the primary coil of the Kacher, (the secondary coil still being connected just the same.  What would happen? Should I just connect it up and see??? That's what I'm interested in doing, as my kacher even running on 24v is not anything to write home about, and my transistor heats up, as well. No strong plasma, just a 1 to 2 mm stream. At least it will stream now, unlike when running on 12v, it would only spark, but would not stream.
  I'm trying replicate the effect that Ruslan is showing when he puts his finger on the Kacher's output, If possible.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9743 on: July 31, 2015, 10:43:23 PM »
Hi Hoppy,

I do not think we need to replicate this as the Ruslan's device is already advanced replication of it ( I guess). I just like to see that evolution in the Ideas, and that Idea IS inherited in Ruslan's device.  Injecting current (or voltage?)pulse in right time. Ruslan just improved it by proper synchronisation, adding better antenna, pulse generator etc... But the main principle is still same. And this is what we need to understand. Without it we will be not able to replicate the "effect".  Blind replication without understanding of process is going nowhere.

Nick, the output in the above video is not impressive, but maybe if he connected proper grounding using thick cable of propper length maybe he could get out much more. That is why we need to experiment. Ruslan  and other guys on Russian forum they  recomend to use welding cable for grounding because a Litz type?


One or Two more things: Ruslan said that Dali (or what ever you spell that) device is perfectly fine, and people wasn't able to replicate it because we do not understand tuning process.  And regarding to tuning processes it is quite very educative to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6HMQneNDU

Becouse in Russian some comment for you ;)  :   

coil L1 (emitter - yellow)   coil L2+capacitor (receiver -blue)
@ 2:25 He puts signal on L1 and makes a distance between coils.
He finds resonance and read the offset - here is 90 deg
@5:59 he watch the offset at resonance when distance is shorter - here is now 23deg
He speaks about the effect of the secondary magnetic field
@7:20 he shows currents (using 2 ohm resistors)
Current doesn't change with distance (just with frequency)

Make conclusions ;)  ........

BTW:
@5:00 Coils they have Induction behaviour till resonance
@5:05 Active behaviour at resonance
@5:12 capacitive behaviour after resonance





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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9744 on: August 01, 2015, 12:02:12 AM »

  Hoppy: Any suggestions as to how to go about connecting the HV Kacher coils to the output of the grenade directly, without the kacher driver circuit. A direct connection from the 168 turns coil, to the primary coil of the Kacher, (the secondary coil still being connected just the same.  What would happen? Should I just connect it up and see??? That's what I'm interested in doing, as my kacher even running on 24v is not anything to write home about, and my transistor heats up, as well. No strong plasma, just a 1 to 2 mm stream. At least it will stream now, unlike when running on 12v, it would only spark, but would not stream.
  I'm trying replicate the effect that Ruslan is showing when he puts his finger on the Kacher's output, If possible.

Nick,

If you use the rectified output from the grenade, I suspect that you will just fry your transistor. You should be able through tuning to get the output lamps to pulse on and off as I did just by touching the Kacher's output with it supplied at 24V. To do this you will ideally need a push-pull PWM oscillator in place of your Mazilli. The flashing / pulsing effect we see in Ruslan's and Urfa's videos is caused by feedback affecting the push-pull output transistors. This is probably why you do not see the 'effect' when using a Mazilli oscillator. Importantly, there is nothing significant about this effect / anomaly, in that it necessarily suggests a device is close to self-running.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9745 on: August 01, 2015, 12:27:08 AM »
Hi Hoppy,

I do not think we need to replicate this as the Ruslan's device is already advanced replication of it ( I guess). I just like to see that evolution in the Ideas, and that Idea IS inherited in Ruslan's device.  Injecting current (or voltage?)pulse in right time. Ruslan just improved it by proper synchronisation, adding better antenna, pulse generator etc... But the main principle is still same. And this is what we need to understand. Without it we will be not able to replicate the "effect".  Blind replication without understanding of process is going nowhere.


I agree that there is no real need to replicate that device, only that it might be interesting to see if it is actually capable of 'more out than in' as claimed when properly measured. As you rightly say, there is little point in replicating any device unless the operating principle is understood.

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« Reply #9746 on: August 01, 2015, 01:50:51 AM »
  My kacher driver is set up for 24v now. My yoke's induction circuit is also set up for 24v now.
 I'm trying to figure if I should rewind the grenade inductor coil which is now 12, 12 turns, to a differenct non bifilar type instead. Any ideas???
   I just ordered a 110v- 220v, AC power supply, 24v, 10 amp DC output, (no fan). It should get to me in a week, or so.
 It's a $21 "el cheapo", from Amazon.com. Including shipping, (to a friend in the US, that will bring it to me).
   Good price, fast shipping.
  http://www.amazon.com/Regulated-Switching-Converter-Power-Supply/dp/B00ANG3DS2/ref=sr_1_55?ie=UTF8&qid=1438302560&sr=8-55&keywords=24v+power+supply

   I'll be ordering some of the  WIMA 0.47uf, 2000v caps, as well, soon.  As I feel that these caps are not optional, to see the "effect".
  This is the best price I've found for those caps above. Although, Amazon has them at a higher price, but with much faster shipping.
  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pcs-WIMA-MKP10-0-47uF-0-47-F-2000V-5-pitch-37-5mm-Capacitor-MKP1U034707G00J-/161433959976?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item259636be28

  I'll also be ordering some of the right 2sc5200 Kacher transistors, as they are really cheap, and were the ones recommended by Ruslan.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1pair-2pcs-of-2SA1943-2SC5200-PNP-Power-Transistor-/170912945335?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27cb3494b7

  I feel that without at least having those components, there is little chance of advancing in this project.
  I'm still looking for a proper high powered commercially made push-pull PWM, frequency controlled, driver board.
  Any help is appreciated.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #9747 on: August 01, 2015, 03:39:43 AM »
And regarding to tuning processes it is quite very educative to watch this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP6HMQneNDU

Becouse in Russian some comment for you ;)  :   

coil L1 (emitter - yellow)   coil L2+capacitor (receiver -blue)
@ 2:25 He puts signal on L1 and makes a distance between coils.
He finds resonance and read the offset - here is 90 deg
@5:59 he watch the offset at resonance when distance is shorter - here is now 23deg
He speaks about the effect of the secondary magnetic field
@7:20 he shows currents (using 2 ohm resistors)
Current doesn't change with distance (just with frequency)

Make conclusions ;)  ........

BTW:
@5:00 Coils they have Induction behaviour till resonance
@5:05 Active behaviour at resonance
@5:12 capacitive behaviour after resonance

Very informative.  Thanks for sharing.

I'm not yet sure how to apply this information, but I do know it is relevant to how the Ruslan device must function--a separation in behavior between the voltage and current in the tank circuit driven by a transformer.  I'm sure now this is why Ruslan uses a current sense transformer instead of a voltage reading across the inductor.  However, for tuning purposes I think it would be interesting to see the voltage and current waveforms side-by-side on a four channel scope.  Bet this would reveal something obvious we are missing.  The magic is in the phase angle relationship.

I think I need to wind a couple of pancake coils and play with this for a day or two.  This concept must also be a direct application used in the GEGENE device, yet I have seen no demonstration using a calibrated spacing between the coils.

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« Reply #9748 on: August 01, 2015, 10:56:40 AM »
hi tomtech29,

Remember previously i took a closer look at the Akula circuit containing 2 i/c TL494 and another i/c which i assumed it was a interrupter.

I found that Akula was using IOR- IR2113 14pin 600volts 2Amps HIGH AND LOW SIDE DRIVER to compliment the TL494.
It makes sense why there was only 2 potentiometer on circuit board instead of 4 to vary the interrupter frequency and pulse width.

In Akula Snubber attachment.There is a i/c brand IOR which is the exact same circuit used in the outdoor video.

In Akula0083-1 attachment do reveal on how to connect TL494 to IR2113 I/C.


In other words there is no interrupter  to PWM circuit involved base on the attached image.
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Once i make amendments to the existing PCB board without the IR2113.The gap between Drain and GND is too narrow underneath the pcb there is arcing at times if there is soldering flux residue present between gap.

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Seems like the 28turns is behaving like a high voltage but with really high current version of Neon sign transformer at 2.5kv using Silicon Carbide Mosfet 1200volts rated.

If my theory is correct the 3.5turns at toroid with 320Vpp can be stepped up via the 90turns input via the capacitor.
The multilayer coil would be the standalone L/C circuit if we combine with a capacitor.The another end of kapanadze(Bottom wire) is leading to bulb with capacitor in parallel to Earth.


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Danger high voltage with current can kill if you are careless and do not apply basic safety rule.

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« Reply #9749 on: August 01, 2015, 01:11:13 PM »
 :)
I guess what you're saying so on the PCB may arise overvoltage and damage the transistor
2.5 kv peaks need to isolate legs see my old film:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKKweX0k4JA
for long cables without shielding bring a lot Operating Noise! you need a ground GND metal housing in other types of potentiometers avoid unpleasant surprises.
view photo:
driver Ir2113 it also has the disadvantage (under load at 10K gates. resistor to close the transistor remember)
Another thing is the distortion of the input signal.

on the PCB of Ruslan waveform is different I suppose that it is not inverting ?
Itsu worked on another system
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDHbVJRSHKU

changes in the type of driver tc4420 does the opposite ucc27322
They have the same pins and act differently and the same sea to be with Tl 494 one works up to 1 MHz and the other to 3MHz.
At the moment you have to try different combinations to get a similar type of operation.