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Offline itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19575 on: April 27, 2018, 03:32:51 PM »

  Itsu:  So, what do the matching numbers look like for 1.1MHz?  Not sure how to figure it.

  There is only one best frequency point that gives any interaction when matching up the Kacher to the induction circuit on my device. No other point results in the output being lit up brighter by the Kacher's interaction. Which mean no interaction is noticed. But, that single point seems weak, compared to the results I obtained with the same grenade and Kacher set up but using the Mazilli driver, instead of the TL494/TC4420 driver.
 
  It looks like several of us have their Kacher running best at around 1MHz. Is that just a coinsidence?
  If I try to go to a higher Kacher frequency, by adjusting it's secondary coil, like to 1.85MHz, I loose some of the output from the Kacher, and the streamer is smaller. And there is much less output from the Kacher at 2.8MHz etz... almost nothing. Maybe a 1 mm spark, and practically no streamer to be seen.
  Just letting you know what I observe on my set up, as a comparison.


Nick,

your grenade (TL494) runs on 27.9Khz, so

the 50th  harmonic will be 27.9 x 50  = 1395 Khz = 1.395 Mhz
the 60th  harmonic will be 27.9 x 60  = 1674 Khz = 1.674 Mhz
the 100th harmonic will be 27.9 x 100 = 2790 Khz = 2.790 Mhz

So for your 1.1 Mhz (1100 Khz) kacher your Grenade (TL494) needs to be running on a 50th, 60th or 100th subharmonic of that meaning:

1100 / 50  = 22 Khz,
1100 / 60  = 18.33 Khz, or
1100 / 100 = 11 Khz.

but...   you have to have the Wima cap / inductor in resonance on one of those frequencies off course.

Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19575 on: April 27, 2018, 03:32:51 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19576 on: April 27, 2018, 03:46:53 PM »
Itsu not trying to be funny but It means nothing as it's not your harmonics of your katcher !!


AG,

Just let Nick get the OU out of his setup...  nobody knows how to do it...  and Nick is the only one with a operational setup on his kitchen table.

We all will be surprised when he hits the fan


Greetings



Nick,... There are different theories about what will be the best sub harmonic to be used in the inductor loop.
In normal electronics you would asume that the one which hits the grenade at best at the kacher frequentie would be preferable...  but until now no proof for that either.

Regarding the series cap...  it would be very usefull to have a variable cap from 300 - 800nf so you can tune in a large range at every inductorloop frequenty.
The bad thing with this kind of caps they are hard to get..   because of the high voltage ratings...  and current what is flowing trough.
Personal..  i have the idea to make my own plate capacitor,..   adding or removing plates will vary the capacitance ..


Greetings

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19577 on: April 27, 2018, 04:09:41 PM »
  apecore:
  Good to hear from you.
   The controllable capacitor may be an important addition, as the bandwidth of a working sweet spot, is tiny.
   But, if no such cap is available, there are available the WIMA caps that can be added to the inductor, as well as to the grenade output, in parallel or series, before the full bridge rectifier,  at quite a cost.
   I took your advice, (joke) and blew out a 1000v WIMA cap, when "things hits the fan", as well as three bulbs, not to mention the feed back PS.
   So, I'm having lots of fun, putting things back together, and running once again. Never a dull moment...

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19578 on: April 27, 2018, 04:23:11 PM »

Nick,

your grenade (TL494) runs on 27.9Khz, so

the 50th  harmonic will be 27.9 x 50  = 1395 Khz = 1.395 Mhz
the 60th  harmonic will be 27.9 x 60  = 1674 Khz = 1.674 Mhz
the 100th harmonic will be 27.9 x 100 = 2790 Khz = 2.790 Mhz

So for your 1.1 Mhz (1100 Khz) kacher your Grenade (TL494) needs to be running on a 50th, 60th or 100th subharmonic of that meaning:

1100 / 50  = 22 Khz,
1100 / 60  = 18.33 Khz, or
1100 / 100 = 11 Khz.

but...   you have to have the Wima cap / inductor in resonance on one of those frequencies off course.

Itsu


   Itsu:  Ok, that is exactly what I need to know. Thanks again for your time.
   Considering the my TL board won't go to 11KHz, (as it current sits), the 18.3, or 22KHz is what I should aim for.
   I'll give it a go, and report back.
   A picture of my device as it is currently, below.
                                  Thanks again,
                                                       Nick

 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19579 on: April 27, 2018, 04:24:39 PM »
Nick,

In my knowledge i only can find the 0.47uF / 2000V rated WIMA's..
Other capacitance values are not ordinairy available on the market in WIMA..

This brings me to the second maybe important observation,.. Ruslan or Akula do use these 0,47uF / 2000V WIMA type...this would suggest that there is a fixed (almost) inductor frequenty..... if they do use the length and/ winding order of the inductor.

So or the inductor freq. is not critical...  or other coils are adjusted on the fact that it is reasonable that the 0,47Uf type is used.


This last option does rise the question ......  does the resonance frequenty of the grenade has to be adjusted to the "fixed" inductorloop frequenty?
Or is it so narrow...  that only by adjustment of the inductor wirelength there is enough range to get it "hit the fan"?

Seems to me some nice subject to discuss here?

Greetings



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« Reply #19579 on: April 27, 2018, 04:24:39 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19580 on: April 27, 2018, 04:44:26 PM »
Nick,

In my knowledge i only can find the 0.47uF / 2000V rated WIMA's..
Other capacitance values are not ordinairy available on the market in WIMA..

This brings me to the second maybe important observation,.. Ruslan or Akula do use these 0,47uF / 2000V WIMA type...this would suggest that there is a fixed (almost) inductor frequenty..... if they do use the length and/ winding order of the inductor.

So or the inductor freq. is not critical...  or other coils are adjusted on the fact that it is reasonable that the 0,47Uf type is used.


This last option does rise the question ......  does the resonance frequenty of the grenade has to be adjusted to the "fixed" inductorloop frequenty?
Or is it so narrow...  that only by adjustment of the inductor wirelength there is enough range to get it "hit the fan"?

Seems to me some nice subject to discuss here?

Greetings


   apecore:  I would agree about the use of the 0.47uf 2000v wima caps.  However,  I do have and use the smaller 0.1uf 1000v wima cap on the grenade output coil, before the rectifier. I really needed the 2000v one, like Ruslan used, 0.15uf wima cap on his grenade output. So now I'm adding one more 0.1uf cap to the wima 0.1 cap, as that is as close as I could get to 0.15. 
  These cap values mentioned are critical in seeing a higher output. The inductor LC circuit is running at about the SAME frequency as the grenade output coil. But, I can't get a scope reading after the full bridge rectifier, or at the bulbs, for some reason. If I connect the scope to the 0.47uf wima cap, the scope's negative probe will affect and partially ground out the HV signal from the Kacher that's running through that WIMA cap.

  Every video that I've seen is using a different inductor size. Some guys are using the inductors bifilar coil made up of two, and some use the three 24 turn bifilar.  Or better said, the 1/2 grenade's 37.5m size, (so 18.75m inductor), or the 1/4 size inductor at 9.4 meters long. I've tried both, and probably should stick with the 1/2 size inductor, at 18.75m long. for higher output into the feed back circuit. As that is a determining factor, if all this is more than just an inefficient inverter, or not.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19581 on: April 27, 2018, 04:46:08 PM »

AG,

Just let Nick get the OU out of his setup...  nobody knows how to do it...  and Nick is the only one with a operational setup on his kitchen table.

We all will be surprised when he hits the fan


Greetings



Nick,... There are different theories about what will be the best sub harmonic to be used in the inductor loop.
In normal electronics you would asume that the one which hits the grenade at best at the kacher frequentie would be preferable...  but until now no proof for that either.

Regarding the series cap...  it would be very usefull to have a variable cap from 300 - 800nf so you can tune in a large range at every inductorloop frequenty.
The bad thing with this kind of caps they are hard to get..   because of the high voltage ratings...  and current what is flowing trough.
Personal..  i have the idea to make my own plate capacitor,..   adding or removing plates will vary the capacitance ..


Greetings
You want a variable cap 01. down to 10 pf  make a switch box with mica caps (expensive) , and not any old res will do your looking for peek resonance and not sure Nick is doing it correctly high end is too low and you only need constant running to set up 'tune' freq' then pulse it. Try changing your mains Voltage Amps Phase shift and see what happens running a resistive bulb.

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« Reply #19581 on: April 27, 2018, 04:46:08 PM »
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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19582 on: April 27, 2018, 05:12:21 PM »
You want a variable cap 01. down to 10 pf  make a switch box with mica caps (expensive) , and not any old res will do your looking for peek resonance and not sure Nick is doing it correctly high end is too low and you only need constant running to set up 'tune' freq' then pulse it. Try changing your mains Voltage Amps Phase shift and see what happens running a resistive bulb.


No... it has to be  in the range between 300- 1000nF... 
I have steel plates 30cm (l) x 30cm(w) X  0.14mm (thick) and construct a plate capacitor... and make the amount of plates variable.

The other rated WIMA 1000V will burn as they are all parallel connected..... Nick will find that out..
Don t forget the voltage across the series cap is between 400- 700VAC

But in general i d like more to discuss the observation how it can that the Ruslan working device has a 0.47uF series cap only,....  so it looks there is no cap tuning needed.


Greetings

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« Reply #19583 on: April 27, 2018, 05:33:47 PM »

   .... But, I can't get a scope reading after the full bridge rectifier, or at the bulbs, for some reason. If I connect the scope to the 0.47uf wima cap, the scope's negative probe will affect and partially ground out the HV signal from the Kacher that's running through that WIMA cap.


Nick,

What type of waveform are you expecting to see after the FWBR and at the bulbs, given that the voltage being scoped is now DC?

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« Reply #19584 on: April 27, 2018, 05:58:09 PM »

No... it has to be  in the range between 300- 1000nF... 
I have steel plates 30cm (l) x 30cm(w) X  0.14mm (thick) and construct a plate capacitor... and make the amount of plates variable.

The other rated WIMA 1000V will burn as they are all parallel connected..... Nick will find that out..
Don t forget the voltage across the series cap is between 400- 700VAC

But in general i d like more to discuss the observation how it can that the Ruslan working device has a 0.47uF series cap only,....  so it looks there is no cap tuning needed.


Greetings

You will need a lot of plates for that sized cap!

Good observation questioning the need for ultra fine cap tuning. If the secret was primarily dependant on fine tuning, then by now I'm sure someone would have had a eureka moment. IMO its much more about disrupting the grenade waveform by the HV / HF Kacher waveform at a precise point and in a precise way. That' s not to say that harmonic resonant tuning is not required, rather that a combination of both is likely needed to show desired effect.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #19585 on: April 27, 2018, 06:02:51 PM »
  Hoppy:
  Any wave form would be better than nothing. I know that it's supposed to be DC after the rectifier, but...


   apecore:
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   The 0.15uf 2000v wima caps are currently not available. But, one of the above or two in parallel will work. Why do you think that it won't? Please explain.
You mentioned, "The other rated WIMA 1000V will burn as they are all parallel connected..... Nick will find that out.."


   Ruslan normally uses two of the 0.47uf 2000v caps in parallel on most of his devices, for the induction circuit capacitors. Some guys use a 1uf microwave cap, instead. Like Akula did at first.
Remember that most videos show different inductor configurations. Such as the 1/4, or 1/2 size inductor, as well as different number of the WIMA caps. To help further tune their device.

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« Reply #19586 on: April 27, 2018, 06:10:30 PM »
  Hoppy:
  Any wave form would be better than nothing. I know that it's supposed to be DC after the rectifier, but...



All you will see is a fairly straight line (on DC coupling) with some HV spikes. Not much use to you other than to measure the voltage level.

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« Reply #19587 on: April 27, 2018, 06:18:04 PM »
  Hoppy:
  That's about it.  No real help at all. The best scope probe location for me is on the smaller 0.1uf wima cap, just before the rectifier. As it doesn't interfere with the HV signal, as much.

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« Reply #19588 on: April 27, 2018, 06:25:05 PM »
  Hoppy:
  That's about it.  No real help at all. The best scope probe location for me is on the 0.1uf series wima cap, just before the rectifier. As it doesn't interfere with the HV signal, as much.

Nick,

The point Im making is that you cannot and should not see the full HV waveform after the FWBR. Its nothing to do with interference.

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« Reply #19589 on: April 27, 2018, 06:31:16 PM »
You will need a lot of plates for that sized cap!

 IMO its much more about disrupting the grenade waveform by the HV / HF Kacher waveform at a precise point and in a precise way. That' s not to say that harmonic resonant tuning is not required, rather that a combination of both is likely needed to show desired effect.

Indeed Hoppy,  i do think the same.

Well i'd tried a lot of things,...... but to make the HF/HV kacher wave (even the pulsed version) unipolair is not so easy.
The Antenna is acting as a capacitor and won t let some diodes f.i. eliminate the half wave.

So here some practical advise or options would be welcome to give it a try to.


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