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Author Topic: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY  (Read 5748486 times)

Offline itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17520 on: July 22, 2017, 10:12:41 PM »

Hi MonsieurX,


i am sorry to dissappoint you, but there is no Schema that works.

Some people claim they have a working overunity device, but the schema (diagram) they provide never produced a working overunity device by anyone trying to replicate.

So the hunt for an overunity device is still on,   welcome.


Regards Itsu

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17520 on: July 22, 2017, 10:12:41 PM »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17521 on: July 22, 2017, 11:30:32 PM »
    Mr.X: Welcome.
  This type of replication is not an easy one to obtain positive results therefrom. As it requires much persistence, and some expense, as well.  Only a handful of Russians and a few others have been able to obtain any positive results.
   However, if you already have an oscilloscope, multi-meter, signal generator, etz... you can still make an attempt.
   Most guys here have not really made a true replication, but their versions of it, instead. And all the many different schematics posted have not been fully and properly tested. And the replications and different versions that were tested by us here, have not resulted in a self running device, as yet.  This does not always mean that the diagrams or schematic don't work, or are fakes, or lacking some important details. It may mean that the diagrams and schematic were not followed correctly, and the people doing these types of replications have given up trying.
   However, if you need some help, just let us know.
   As far as I'm concerned, there is not better project of this type to follow up on, and try to replicate.
   




   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17522 on: July 23, 2017, 12:04:10 AM »
Nick that was a great response, I will not give up as I speak Russian and Polish I have seen the original Kpanadze clip from 2004 (in 2004) and thought that was a body that was being disposed of.


Now pushing 13 and a half years later time is now slipped away and the potential for Kapanadze as he has aged is gone too...



I still peek here so often however myself left to work on mechanical devices ... I get better satisfaction.. and results..


Did I say thanks for all the years here, that is yes.


Acca


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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17523 on: July 23, 2017, 01:26:19 PM »
I just hope Kabanadze and other inventors realize that sitting on these devices will just play into these "J.P Morgan" type magnate's pockets. I understand that an inventor would like compensation for all he years of work he/she has put into the device, but when he is killed does this planet have another 100 years to wait for another invention?

Like I have this modest plan of putting all free energy related stuff out there for free and make something out of the residual inventions that come up in the process. When you play a lot around magnets and devices you come up with lots of stuff not related to free energy.

Free energy must be accompanied by anti-gravity also. I suspect he US already has this and there are couple of "patriots" guarding the Lockheed-Martin hangars. I mean if India and Africa are given free energy we need place to put this people that come out of it. Greed and nationalism will take care of us in the next 100 years, if we don't figure this out.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17524 on: July 23, 2017, 05:07:59 PM »
Thanks for the answers.
The failures of our attempts to operate T. K.'s reply is due to our ignorance of the operation of the Ether.
An attempt at explanation was described by a French engineer on the site Karmapolis.
See the link: https://www.karmapolis.be/pipeline/holodynamique.html
It's in French unfortunately for you, but it does not help me any more.
I only remember that there are "particles" vibrating at very high frequency. Hypothesis ?
If it is true, the apparatus of T.K. would come to disrupt these particles and put at our disposal energy.
The key is I think the Nanosecond generator and its frequency, and the width of the pulses.
I will try to collect some material including TL.
Of course I have an oscilloscope + measuring equipment.
Here. What scheme? That of T.K. of origin.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17525 on: July 23, 2017, 10:50:16 PM »
  In this forum thread we are not trying to replicate the Tariel Kapanadze devices. Mainly due to the lack of proper build information.
We have been working on replications from other guys that have shown similar self running devices, but which are showing full schematics as well as videos of their devices.
  If interested please let us know and I can place some youtube links so that you can check them out for yourself.
 
   There is also another thread on this forum, which deals with the actual Kapanadze devices.
   

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17526 on: July 25, 2017, 05:46:16 AM »
  Itsu:
  I've now changed the TL494's previous 104 frequency capacitor, and the #5 pin resistor, to the recommended 102 cap, and a 2.2k resistor.  And now it seams to be working at the proper frequency range. However, my square wave signal now looks like this (below). The sec/div setting is at 20us, in case you can't read it properly.
  Please let me know at what frequency it's running at now at that setting. So that I can compare that to what I think that it is running at.
  Is that wave form normal for a square wave signal, or not? As it's not showing the normal square wave now, as it had been previously.
 
  The upper probe signal is on one mosfet's drain, and the lower signal is on the other mosfet's gate.
The fets are Not firing at the same time now, and the signals readings are the same, or very similar on both fets.

  I'm still running the same duty cycle controls using a 10k resistor through the 50k pot, as it was before. But, the duty cycle readings seam to be slightly lower than 44% or so, compared to what they were previously, at the full duty cycle settings. The setting is at maximum duty cycle.
  If needed I can replace the duty cycle's 10k resistor and 50k trim pot back to the 20k pot that I had on previously, as well as the resistor to a 12k, if needed.
  Below are my scope shots. Let me know what you think.
 

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17527 on: July 25, 2017, 09:52:02 AM »
Nick:

Assuming you have probes positioned properly and no channel inversions going on.... the Drain trace seems to be indicating that the mosfets are not turning OFF very sharply. They are turning ON rapidly which is good. Do you have pull-down resistors between the Drain and Source of the mosfets? And perhaps also between the Pin 2 logic inputs of the 4420 driver chips and Ground (source)?

Since the mosfets work by charging the Gate to turn the mosfet ON, you need to provide a path for the charge to leave the gate in order for the mosfet to turn OFF again. Normally the driver chips can do this, but it looks like they aren't quite keeping up so you may need to experiment with pull-down resistors from Gate to Source to improve the turn-off times.

Mosfet Drain traces can be confusing because with N-channel mosfets the Drain signal should be HIGH when the mosfet is OFF and goes LOW when the mosfet turns ON.

Since you are showing the Gate of one mosfet and the Drain of the other one, the timing looks like it is right, with the Drain of the one mosfet going LOW (turning on) when the other mosfet's gate signal is LOW (turning off). However I am still concerned about the timing (dead time, or overlap). It might be easier to tell if you simply showed both Drains, instead of one Drain and the other Gate.

For capacitor values: when you see a number like 104,  you should read this as "10 and 4 more zeros" in picoFarads. So 104 = 100000 pF, or 100 nF, or 0.1 uF. And 102 means 1000 pF, which is 1 nF or 0.001 uF. 

See my annotations on your scopeshot for determining frequency from the scope trace and timebase setting.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17528 on: July 25, 2017, 02:48:19 PM »
Nick,

i agree with TK about the frequency; 16.6Khz, looking good.

Concerning the drain turnoff signal being rounded off, thats exactly the same is i showed in my latest video to you (linked here:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDehKNbtoEA&t=364s )
where at time 5.33 i show my both MOSFETs drain / gate signals, see screenshot 1 below.
Yellow and Blue  are gate/drain from MOSFET 1,
purple and green are gate/drain from MOSFET 2.

This rounded off does NOT go away by:

# adding drain to source pull-down resistors (1K, 10K, 56K)
# lowering the pull-down resistor at the TL494 outputs to 100 Ohm (68 Ohm is the minimum according to the data sheet)
# lowering the link resistor between TL494 output and MOSFET driver input to 10 Ohm
# adding a parallel schottky diode across the resistor between MOSFET driver output and gate (anode to gate)

It does go away by using instead of the 10K drain load resistors some 12V automotive bulbs, but it introduces already some spikes, see screenshot 2
again:
Yellow and Blue  are gate/drain from MOSFET 1,
purple and green are gate/drain from MOSFET 2.
 
Concerning the dead time, like TK mentioned, try to put on both drains or both gates to compare, 44% seems reasonable to me.

How about the MOSFETs, are they getting hot now still?

Regards Itsu


« Last Edit: July 25, 2017, 07:20:07 PM by itsu »

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17529 on: July 25, 2017, 05:19:46 PM »
OK, sounds like things are working fine, so far.
Using calctool gives me 16.667KHz. So, that also compares with your frequency calculations. Great. So I am in the needed frequency ranges. Next will.be to connect the TL/UC drivers to the rest of the yoke/grenade system,  and check for MOSFET overheating. If the FETs stay cool, I'll connect the Kacher up also. Then see about matching their frequencies.
  I'll post some more scope shots after I connect up the rest of the yoke and grenade circuits.
  Thanks a lot for your help guys. I wish that you were both working on this project, as well, so that we could compare the results.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17530 on: July 25, 2017, 09:10:53 PM »

Nick,

be aware that without any snubbers on the drains, you very probably will see some nasty spikes when probing your drains.
At 24V input, those spikes could easily peak to over 200V which is your MOSFETs max drain voltage and could in the long run cause damage to your MOSFETs even without them getting hot.

Use short runs and monitor the drains.   When over 200V peaks are detected, you need to start thinking of using snubbers to divert those peaks or use the lossless clamp design.

 
Itsu

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« Reply #17531 on: July 26, 2017, 06:34:39 PM »
After reading you, I will start something.
As I see you work on mounts with TL494, I like it.
I have seen that are differents model, what kind of TL494 may i use ?.
Can you tell me the 2 diagrams to realize, because there are many assemblies and I do not have your experience to avoid such a montage that works badly.
My oscilloscope is a HAMEG 303-6 2 X 35 Mhz. Digital multimeter and frequency meter.
If you live in Europe, where do you order your components?
Here we have CONRAD, but a little expensive.
Questions: I see a Nanoseconde generator, but a TL494 can not work at 1 Ghz, despite my reads I do not understand. If you can enlighten me.
I have not Yok from old TV.
Thank you.

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17532 on: July 26, 2017, 07:15:35 PM »
   X:
   The TL494 circuit is only for the push pull generator. It needs to work from 10KHz to 30KHz, or so.
Kacher circuit is for the high frequency impulses,

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17533 on: July 26, 2017, 08:56:05 PM »
After reading you, I will start something.
As I see you work on mounts with TL494, I like it.
I have seen that are differents model, what kind of TL494 may i use ?.
Can you tell me the 2 diagrams to realize, because there are many assemblies and I do not have your experience to avoid such a montage that works badly.
My oscilloscope is a HAMEG 303-6 2 X 35 Mhz. Digital multimeter and frequency meter.
If you live in Europe, where do you order your components?
Here we have CONRAD, but a little expensive.
Questions: I see a Nanoseconde generator, but a TL494 can not work at 1 Ghz, despite my reads I do not understand. If you can enlighten me.
I have not Yok from old TV.
Thank you.


Mister X,

Your from France i believe?
I live couple  hundred miles Nord of France, i purchase mostly China now but TME.com of maybe TME.fr is also better then Conrad.

Please try to read some topics in this thread and try to make yourself a approach based on your theorie, from this point of view maybe better to start discussion then let you begin at start as many did before you and stopped already.


succes,
Apecore

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Re: Kapanadze Cousin - DALLY FREE ENERGY
« Reply #17534 on: July 26, 2017, 10:11:50 PM »
   Itsu:
   Below is one of my drain signals, running from my 24v PSU, now.
   With the yoke connected to the TL494, and only the 3t coil on the yoke connected up. No connection between the yoke secondary 28t coil to the grenade 168t output coil. The grenade 168t output coil is only connected to the full bridge rectifier, going to a 10w 120v bulb as the load. Ground line is connected to the 168t coil (output side), and also to the TL/UC circuits. Volts/Div set at 20.
   Running only for two seconds in order to take the picture, one fet starts to heat up. It would probably go up in smoke in one minutes running time. The other fet is cool at least when running for only a few seconds. NO light at the 10w bulb.
   Although the spikes are not over 120v or so, the fet still heats up. This is with almost full duty cycle and running at the same 16.67KHz, as yesterday. Lowering the duty cycle does bring down the spikes somewhat.

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