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Author Topic: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity  (Read 103164 times)

Offline PARAV

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #60 on: January 17, 2014, 05:14:57 PM »
For this document, about the replication bby Pascuser, if at least 1 member here would be interested I complete the translation, so I will try to do; just please tell me.

http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=0de1c882bae3a5d7344e394b19608218&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F12639%2Frichard-vialles-new-theory-about-negative-mass-and-overunity%2Fnew%2F%23new&v=1&libId=e93cd949-7f40-49b0-8843-e331689ca53f&out=http%3A%2F%2Fzedico.info%2FExtraits_Publics%2FPascuser%2Fselfgenerator_1.pdf&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.overunity.com%2F12639%2Frichard-vialles-new-theory-about-negative-mass-and-overunity%2F45%2Fpost%2Flast_msg%2F383453%2F&title=Richard%20VIALLE's%20new%20theory%20about%20negative%20mass%20and%20overunity&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fzedico.info%2FExtraits_Publics%2FPascuser%2Fselfgenerator_1.pdf&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_138995888185412

Cheers.


Hello Khwartz,

Thanx for coming to this thread.

I have been studying the Richard Vialle concept from some of the info "Pascuser" has provided and have been grabbing  bits and bites from JLN and the French forums as well and find that there is something definitely promising about this system.

I would definitely like to pursue this further. Hoping you and "Pascuser" and others can help with the translations and building instructions.

I'm sure other members will join in once they  see some real positive information on this "Vialle" experiment.

Regards,---
Paul

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Offline Khwartz

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #61 on: January 18, 2014, 08:58:39 AM »
Dear Paul. I am very glad you confirme your interest.  Yes, I do share with you the opinion there is "something definitely promising about this system". Been years I follow the free energy quest and looks to me it is the best candidate until now for something real, and the most seriously studied system up to now. I mean the figures announced are far to be just a jock!

As I have understood the main problem was nobody has replicated in real time in the thread the device, giving the results day after day with the specifications of its built. Woppy disapeard but  (in fact he chosed to continue on the French forum), I think that has been taken as if he has abandonned the try by disappointement.

So, despite I am not supposed to have the time, the organisation and test for, I will try to do it, to replicate and publish here. It has proven its u.o. and it was my sine ne qua non condition for any replication.  But I insist: I have no test and no skill for electronics!

Any way, from your own viewpoint, which document or material you would like I translate in priority to publish ot here?


Offline PARAV

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #62 on: January 18, 2014, 06:49:32 PM »
Dear Paul. I am very glad you confirme your interest.  Yes, I do share with you the opinion there is "something definitely promising about this system". Been years I follow the free energy quest and looks to me it is the best candidate until now for something real, and the most seriously studied system up to now. I mean the figures announced are far to be just a jock!

As I have understood the main problem was nobody has replicated in real time in the thread the device, giving the results day after day with the specifications of its built. Woppy disapeard but  (in fact he chosed to continue on the French forum), I think that has been taken as if he has abandonned the try by disappointement.

So, despite I am not supposed to have the time, the organisation and test for, I will try to do it, to replicate and publish here. It has proven its u.o. and it was my sine ne qua non condition for any replication.  But I insist: I have no test and no skill for electronics!

Any way, from your own viewpoint, which document or material you would like I translate in priority to publish ot here?


Hi Khwartz,

Thanx again for the come back.

I also have not much in the form of good  test equipment on hand but have been working silently on many projects here at OU and the Energetic forum for the past 10 years.

I do have a pile of failed experiments littering my junk box to show for.

However, I have had a few successes with Joule Thieves ,Battery chargers, some Dr Stiffler experiments and a host of 1.5 volt inverter type circuits from "XEE". --I am now working with the Mazilli oscillator on "Geo's" RMG"  at the moment as well.--Waiting for parts.

Anyway, to get back on the Richard Vialle project.--I would very much like you to translate and send the latest  schematics and or parts lists if you can ,or any other pertinent test data the French guys have thus far achieved in the past couple of months or so. It does appear that it is fairly simple to build -in terms of the no. of parts and off the shelf components etc.

Hopefully then , some of the more experienced members with good quality test equipment can chime in and have a go at this too.

Regards, Paul


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #63 on: January 19, 2014, 11:16:41 AM »
Hi Khwartz,

As requested by PARAV, please post the latest schematics and necessary information to enable me to attempt a replication.


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #64 on: January 19, 2014, 12:17:41 PM »
Hi Hoppy and Paul.

Thanks for your interest in replicating and data for try to break the outpower and global COP problem of the Richard's autogenerator.

I will try to translate what you asked me and publish it here, but please be patient if sometime I take time to do so :/

Regards too, Didier.

PS: The experimenters in France are no more working on proving that the RAG is o.u. on the U shape (the U shape is not necessary,it is just more practical to have this shape on the bench than a 1 m long straight bar) between the output of the bar and the input of the coil wound around the bar, they work since 1 year on finding more accurately the exact tuning frequencies of the bar to recreate, at will, the huge picks of power registered last year. The problem of the amplification stage consumption gives hard time while global overunity COP looks having been achieved only in the laboratory of the original sponsor in Switzerland. High professional skills in electronics are very missing to reproduce the global overunity :/

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #65 on: January 19, 2014, 04:43:36 PM »
Hi Khwartz ,
I'm new at this forum, english is not my native language but I can read and write.
I know the basics of electronics , electromagnetism , physics and mathematics ( I have completed 50% of electronic engineering at university) so I'm very interested in this device .
Please continue the job of the translation!!


regards!

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #66 on: January 20, 2014, 04:46:49 PM »
Hi!

Having gone through materials the guys of the French forum Conspirovniscience proposed me to translate to answer to your demands here, I have already posted there a whole set of specifications for direct replication, and I am waiting now the checking and possible corrections and additional advises of the other members there before to translate and publish here.

You may wait few days, sorry for making you wait.

My own replication should follow in the next weeks too, as soon I will have the materials and équipements.

Note: While studying the materials I realise how far my citizenmates are advanced and how precised are their experiments, in adittion of having their well positive and fully disclosed results. Only one example: it has been successfully realised the continuous charge of 2 batteries alternatively AND delivering in the same time power to the load! Even if it has been made in a lobaratory of electronics and can be hardly reproduce by lack of skills in electronics, it amazes me to see how far these guys are while having had no support at the international, while so many people of very good will indeed, invest their time in far less advanced results and non completly disclosed, opensource material of fasly "humanitarian" inventors who never disclose "the main trick" (if it is not fake of course!).

I really which some of you, like you Hoppy, having good skills in electronics and serious both background and methodology, to run this thing and find the solution to reproduce what has been successfully done in laboratory and going further in the results of this well documented true o.u. phenomenon.

Regards,
Didier.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
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Offline Khwartz

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #67 on: January 22, 2014, 07:52:43 AM »
Quote from: verpies on January 21, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
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Didn't JLN Naudin show the Vialle circuit anomaly is caused by ?:
- capacitive coupling,
- bad power measurements due to  inductive resistors and multiplying average AC Volts by average AC Amps which almost never equal average power.

P.S.
The concept of RMS Power makes no sense to me.
For a sine wave, RMS Voltage * RMS Current * cos(phi) = Average Power.
Why would somebody be interested in RMS Power ?
Hi Verpies.

Thanks for the note.

I know Jean-Louis has worked on it but I have not yet go through all his materials about Richard's autogen.

For RMS Amps by RMS Voltage, well, isn't it give only APPARENT POWER?

Well, as I have seen it, the experimenters of the forum of Conspirovniscience are little clever than this and I can ensure you they know the difference with REAL POWER, know how to use oscilloscopes and probes, and calculate or read a power factor.

There is a thread I have started to use to update all data and results in English, would you be agree to post your next welcome objections when based on facts [or physics], like you have just done. It will help me much to clear all them so that anybody could profit.

I will copy-paste this one too.

Regards

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #68 on: January 22, 2014, 11:24:00 PM »
So, no answer? Dear Verpies ;)

BTW, I went through a whole set of test of JNL on the Richard's autogenerator, he wrote at the end of more than ten of each either:

"Bonne construction et bonnes expériences avec cet autogénérateur en U de Richard Vialle."
-> "Good construction and good experience with this Richard Vialle's U shape autogenerator"

"Cette expérience tend à confirmer une fois de plus la théorie et l'expérience de Richard Vialle..."
-> "This experience tends to confirm once again Richard Vialle's theory and experience..."

So, JNL non conclusive on his tests on the Richard Vialle's autogenerator?!

Others excerpts:

"Nous avons précédement mesuré que la fréquence optimale de fonctionnement (lampe de charge allumée au maximum) du générateur en U de Richard Vialle est de 3.6 MHz et ce, en parfaite conformité avec son calcul théorique."
-> "We have previously measured that the optimal functioning frequency (the light bulb load lighted at maximum) of the Richard Vialle's U shaped autogenerator is 3.6 MHz and this, in perfect conformity with the theoretical calculations"


"Plus de puissance (10W) en sortie et - 4 w de puissance négative à l'entrée vec l'Autogénérateur en U"
-> "More outpower (10W) and - 4 W of negative input power with the U shape Autogenerator."


"La puissance en sortie de l'autogénérateur en U est bien là, c'est indéniable, la lampe de 10 W éclaire au maximum."
-> The power at the output of the U shape autogenerator is indeed here, it is undubitable, the light bulb glows at maximum."


Note:

These results are no more representative of the results obtained since JNL have made these experiments and tests. From only drop of power consumption under load, but true indeed in agreement with the theory, we are now on clear o.u. registring on the U shape (more power out of the 2 halves of the tube than the power feed in the coil), and less obvious and much harder to realise: making the circuit feeding the grid itself too! So TWO sources of power in the same time! I know, hard to believe but sure you may prove it for yourself; but needs skills in electronics I even do not have myself. I KNOW HERE SOME OF YOU GUYS  HAVE THE NEEDED SKILLS, so I count on you to "break" it for yourself.

I went true lot of materials. Many Frenches has indeed already and successfully replicated the overunity of the U shape, you may try with me when I will post my own replication or you can start before while I will provide the specifications for the replication, of the basic already well mastered experiment. Then, or in parallel, I wish to provide "the state of the art" on the Richard Vialle's Autogen, with the discovered "avalanche phenomenon" and possible kW of power.

Regards.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #69 on: January 23, 2014, 10:04:00 AM »
Could someone could explain, how one can get more REAL REFLECT POWER (as registered by a professional HV DIRECT AND REFLECTIVE POWER meter), than the REAL POWER injected in a supposed PASSIVE dipole like a copper pipe wound with a coil? (To be more precise: two halves of copper pipe):

http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=1476

Even if you don't understand the words pictures, schematics and video, they should show you something, paticularly at the end of the vid in this page, of one of the basic experiment one can do.

Regards.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #70 on: January 23, 2014, 11:25:45 AM »
@Pascuser

Dear Pascal, if you come around, I would like to inform you that since yesterday I am no more able to post nor to send any PM in our forum in Conspirovniscience.com.

I have tried to unlog and inlog but couldn't inlog back, the page saying I had not the right secret code (for sure I had indeed).

I have asked for a new code but didn't receive anything, could you do something about? I would like to thanks you all for your last answers but still would appreciate if you could, all you guys, check and complete my list of items of specifics for replication, the one at the time "Lundi 20 Janvier 2014 à 15h35" [Monday 20th January, 3:35 pm], so that I could translate and publish it here to give the data for a "state of the art" replication here.

@Woppy

You had started to replicate in English, so I know you have some skills in English: wouldn't be a nice idea if you could complete the publication of your replication here? You have already all the materials for, I suppose, like pics and schematics ;)

Regards.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #71 on: January 23, 2014, 07:45:05 PM »
Hi Folks,
  I've just found this thread. Never heard of Richard Vialle before...

Has anyone proposed a mechanism / a principle of operation for the aUto-Generator? It's an interesting design...
I.e. how does the magnetic field cause the electrostatic effect? Is it simply the 'left-hand-rule'? Are the 2 halves of the U acting as halves of a dipole antenna?

I'm interested in finding out more about the 'Pigtail' device. From what I can tell - it has gravity modifying properties, and that's something i'd like to work more on...

Can anyone elaborate on the pigtail device? Pascal has this page, but it's not very easy to follow in Google Translate:
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/pascuser_rep4.htm

I notice that his resonance is at 155Mhz - which would be far too high for my test equipment. I would have to make a much bigger coil...

I wonder - is it possible / worthwhile - making a 3-layer pigtail coil...? (I have a theory about higher dimensions & spirals...)
i.e, something like this:
 - Layer 1 - magnet wire wound on 16Amp house cable
 - Layer 2 - result of above wound on 16Amp house cable
 - Layer 3 - result of above wound on copper/plastic pipe

:)
Regards, Tim


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #72 on: January 23, 2014, 09:44:31 PM »
Hi tim123! Welcome on this thread to present the "how to do" of Richard's AutoGen.

The to halves are here to avoid what we call "hot current".

The "hot current", for Richard, is let's say "the ordinary current", the one we are used to use and think with.

It is said "hot" in opposition of "cold current".

The "hot current" is mostly known as a displacement of electrons from a nucleus to an other and called "free electrons", while the "cold current" is presented as the result of change of shape of the electron cloud around the nucleus.

Richard has calculated a frequency where we should couple with a frequency particular to the electron.

While we push this frequency by an outside excitation, we are supposed to increase the diameter of the electronic cloud by an increase of the amplitude of the waves made by the electrons around the nucleus. (The more than ten steps of test of JNL are said to verify the theory, as the power obtained out of the U shape.)

This alternative movement roughly similar to a "hot" alternative (so the ordinary one), EXCEPT IT DOES NOT PRODUCE ANY JOULE EFFET,  so not generating any lose,  BECAUSE OF NO REEL DISPLACEMENT OF CHARGES, only a 3D deformation of the electronic cloud. (I will translate more precisely later the exact words of Richard).

To be honest in respecting the spirit of the work done in my country, I have to say that Richard does not claim having understood everything perfectly. But the fact is that he has produced a theory with which he was able to create experiences which demonstrate the workability apparently both in antigravity and in overunity, and in this both domains it has been been documented antigravity and overunity phenomenons.

Any way, if we are aware that the theory needs to be improved so that we can exactly predict what is going on, we do have a theory which looks able to predict and produce that kind of phenomenons. It is the job of the experimenters now to go further in the observation so that this same theory could be refined.

For antigravity properpies, as I know and until now, none are associated with the RAG, only the "Pigtail" device, that I am not a specialist.

If we break the way to RE-produce the global overunity of the RAG, I will probably translate few materials on the Pigtail device. But here, at the PROMTECNO association (means association for promotion of new and forgotten technology - PROMotion des TEChnologies Nouvelles et Oubliées) we have taken the rule to focus on 1 main project called "project 0", the one we have estimated the most promising of all apparatus in the free energy realm. So I will try to follow the same path here and encourage others to do the same.

Have I answered to your questions, dear tim123?
« Last Edit: January 24, 2014, 07:38:40 AM by Khwartz »

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #73 on: January 23, 2014, 10:49:09 PM »
Thank you Khwartz. You've given me something to work with.  I'll read some more... :)


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #74 on: January 24, 2014, 05:20:22 AM »
Just jumped in here so I'm not sure if this was completed yet but I decided to at least try to translate the rest of that document.   This is the original one Pascuser put up and I believe Khwartz translated the first 5 pages.   This is just a rough translation of the text without pictures or diagrams and no translation of the handwritten pages (last 2).   But it at least gives a rough translation of the next 12 pages or so.   This was done with Google translate:

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