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Author Topic: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity  (Read 113738 times)

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2012, 03:01:06 PM »
You really don't understand what you see in the videos and what I wrote before.

As as said many times and as it is in the video, the scale with the spinning disk has NOTHING to do with the overunity generator. It is not a disk nor a scale. The only common thing is the theory behind it to design these experiments.

The overunity generator is an electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies and what you write only shows that you only watched firts video out of 7 and did not see at all the overunity generator.

If you don't watch the interview I can't help. Sorry, I have not much time to spend explaining that you must read and watch before all. I have a lot of work to do. You can call when you will have watched the videos, instead of only a fraction.; if not theere will be other peaople elsewhere. yet french people are beginning replication. I

f your harvest for overunity has exhausted here all too much to seek deeper because of no working devices and many other things fake or other, I understand because it is the way the system found to divert real research about it. You want to burry something exposed? The easy way: you give millions of false devices so everybody having spent years in nuilding only 10 of them will be discouraged for all his life. It works very well and is used since years. But I don't have to cop with the system results. We yet work on it, and we don't wait people to do OUR work about it. if you are not interestec because it is not enough proofable for you, then you can do something else; I won't blame you. I am not here to have people doing something for me, trying to catch workers as slaves, I am here to give something for people wanting to use it, no more. if you don't want to use it, don't use it.

I have built many devices not working at all; I now what this looks like; so I don't blame anybody. I have built too two working devices: Richard VIALLE one and a Tesla coil transmitter with Overunity. I could measure it durong months, and if you don't want to replicate it, I don't ask you to do it. The system won in many cases, I am not here to win again the system.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2012, 03:34:25 PM »
You really don't understand what you see in the videos and what I wrote before.

As as said many times and as it is in the video, the scale with the spinning disk has NOTHING to do with the overunity generator. It is not a disk nor a scale. The only common thing is the theory behind it to design these experiments.

The overunity generator is an electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies and what you write only shows that you only watched firts video out of 7 and did not see at all the overunity generator.


I have not found any useful information about the "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies".

Why don't you publish the schematics of this circuit?

Why don't you publish consistent measurements done on the "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies".

Why don't you publish a comprehensible description of the "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies".

Sorry, Richard Vialle seems to be nice man with many interesting theories, but to catch anybodies attention you have to give just a few good things:

- A clear description of the system you are talking about (if it is not a scale, if it is not a spinning disk, what is it)?

- A credible proof that it works (not hear say, and it does not make sense if you are not allowed to show it because it is someones intellectual property).

I do not understand which system you are talking about. There might be some hints and some glimpses somewhere in 7 videos, but I have not found them and they can not be very clear, otherwise I would have understood them.

Please, just one diagram, one schematic, one photo, one set of comprehensible measurements (supporting the OU claim) of the "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies".

The theory might be outstanding, but why wade through it if I can never clearly see the OU device you are talking about.

You mentioned some electronics which some firm built. If you can not show it, we can not talk about it.

Yes, I am difficult, but you have not shown a "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies" and you have not provided any proof that this invisible device is OU.

You show a big amount of theory. It would take years to try to understand it. But some clear information about the "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies" could be understood fast. And if this is good information, I will be prepared to wade through a mountain of theory. But hear say and hints, why should I waste my time?

Yes, I understand, the scale with the spinning disk is some sort of proof of principle. But on the other hand you are saying "the overunity generator is an electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies". So, where is it? Please describe this electric device!

Have you personally built some scales or a "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies"? We have seen some scales, but we have not seen a OU device that could be describes as a "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies". Please show it in a clear and comprehensible way.
 
 Do you want me to build some scale to prove a principle?
 
 Or, if you want me to build a "electric device, with input frequencies and output frequencies", please give me clear directions. I am too dumb to build it after having seen the videos and after having read the PDF-files.

If you think that the information provided in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxFZmGKP4UI is scientifically useful or does allow replication, you are gravely mistaken. It is some casual discussion of alleged effects which one has to believe without any proof. How can one ever build this electronic circuits by just getting a brief glimpse. One needs exact specifications and a clear schematics.

You claim to be a scientist, so, please be scientific.

Greetings, Conrad
« Last Edit: August 31, 2012, 05:42:51 PM by conradelektro »


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2012, 05:36:42 PM »
You have not watched the videos. Overunity generator, electronic, schematic is inside.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2012, 05:52:24 PM »
I looked at the discussions in http://www.conspirovniscience.com/forum/index.php?showforum=35

Well, the usual endless efforts to replicate something difficult and inconclusive.

All very interesting, all very mysterious, all very much unclear.

Have fun,

Conrad


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2012, 06:13:51 PM »
@Pascuser:There might be something, may be one day one finds something. But it is by no means in any way clear at the moment if there is OU or not.
Some experiments might give hope, some experiments fail (specially when replicated).
Your videos give many hints and many glimpses at different set ups (bobbins, windings, principal circuits), but nothing that could be considered proof.
As you say, convincing measurements need very good and expensive instruments and also a lot of experience.
I wish you good luck, for me the whole thing is way beyond my means and experience. I can only judge whether something is for me or not. Others might be taken off their feet by the info you provide, for me it is like so many things I have seen. But my opinion is not important, you have to convince real scientists and people who are able and willing to spend a lot of money for it.
First I was really confused by the scale and the spinning disk, now, having seen the various circuits and windings on many different cores in the videos, and the discussion in the French OU-forum, well, so what?

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2012, 09:24:46 PM »
As I wrote it before, there are 3 devices:

1)Scale with a spinning disk showing negative mass effect
2)Overunity generator (two versions with various possibilities + ferrite version no achieved yet)
2)Pigtail (gravity anomalies with a modified generator)

At the contrary of what you said, there is no complication for the overunity generator nor the scale with spinning disk. The only problem of lab material is for the pigtail

As I yet stated, you hace about $30 woth material to build the overunity generator (a copper bar and a copper wire for coils) in its simplest version and possibility; if you have a Generator able to deliver up to 4MHz and an amplifier; If you don't have it, a 50MHz generator can be bought new for $40 and an amplifier built for $40 too, and this is lab material usable for anything else.

Endless discussions in the french forum are about many things, but NOT about the scale (ther is no endless discussion but there has been a replication with abnormal resultst found as stated yet again) and there has been NO discussion about the overunitygenerator since the schematic was not given before the interview.

Discussions are about difficulties pour the pigtail and current ferrite generator under developpment. So you seem to have only understood little of that work. I don't blame, french is not a native language here. But the subtitles videos are made to allow english reader to understand.

The scale machine costed $70 of material to the builder (with a recuperated motor, if not add a motor price)
So there is no complexity or difficulty to have a replication. But here I posted these last messages to have replications, not as you think to give you the proof you need to stay in your seat looking other doing the job.

What YOUwanted is expensive: lab measurement material not in possession to have some claim you want and won't accept what is more when obtained. These measurements have been made in an institue. Are you satisfied with it? Not. Why? because you think it doesn't exist. So why would it be helpful for anybody else to do the measurment for you? And why would anybody buy an equipement for you? YOU have demands, you create your own constraints, and so you decourage yourself.

I only used my oscilloscope and resirtot and could have a COP>300 COP in one test, COP>500 in another, as stated.

I don't want to spend more time as today for useless discussions with person not watching videos carefully and not reading what is written. I can't spend time explaining again and again and repaeting things that have been said and written in the video, because you just didn't watch it. If you aren't interested, please don't make me loose my time. If so I won't answer, don't be surprised. If you don't want, aren't interested, want other people to do things for you to start something or anything else, go elsewhere, thank you.

If you are interested and have spent time to understand the videos and want to replicate a device, ask freely and I will help with pleasure. Here no replication was intended by Conrad but only useless discussions.

There is a theory and there a 3 devices. Each one is exposed in the interview videos. The first device corresponds to what has been translated with subtitles up to now: scale; and some theory.
Enough has been made to allow anybody willing to reproduce it.

When the remaining videos will have been translated you will be able to know what are the 2 remaining devices and to replicate them. Here the forum is intitled "New theories about free energy systems »Theory of overunity and free energy" and it is conform to what has been given in english for now. You have a theory, a new one, and this theory leads to free energy.

You can test the scale device to see the new theory fundamentals with existing documentation. What remains will come in english when translated.

Nobody else with actual real implication reads here? Only people specialized in polemics here? No matter. I will post all this elsewhere, where people work. Overunity, bye.

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 10:21:46 PM »
@Pascuser

Sounds good what you say about "2)Overunity generator (two versions with various possibilities + ferrite version no achieved yet)"

It is difficult to watch very long videos and to look for schematics in a pile of information.

Yes, I am lacy, yes, you do not have to do anything for me. But if you want to involve people it is much better to provide precise and helpful information.

My suggestion:

Please publish here your best schematic for a "Vialle overunity generator" with a good technical specification of the components.

Since you say you have built one, why not publish the one you have built.

It would also be helpful if you published here the measurements you did on your replication.

So, what do I want from you to start replication:

1 drawing showing the schematics (the electronic circuit, absolutely necessary)

1 page listing the components (so that I know what to buy, absolutely necessary)

1 page showing the measurements you did on this circuit (optional, not important at the moment)

1 photo showing the circuit in action (optional, not important at this moment)


Yes, may be I could dig out this information from long videos and from going through many pages in a French forum. You seem to have the information, why don't you make it easy for everybody to start a replication? You want to involve people. Fine, give me a chance, give me a reason to start.

You are throwing a flood of information at me. But the only thing I want to do is to build one specific circuit. So tell me the one thing, and if it is understandable I will build it.

You wrote many long explanations. A circuit diagram and a list of the components (used in the circuit) would have said everything. That can not be more work than what you have written so far in this thread. Also a lot of confusion would have been avoided.

It is my fault that I am too dumb to digest a life time of research done by Richard Vialle in one day. But I am clever enough to understand one single circuit in an hour. I can also build a single circuit in a few days once I have a specification of its components. And I can try to replicate measurements once you tell me which measurements to do on this single circuit. I have two oscilloscopes.

I can not build various circuits and various machines. And I can not study for months in order to get all the information. You do not have to teach me a whole theory. Just tell me one circuit, I am a simple person.

So, please, give me one circuit and a specification of its components! (If you have many circuits, please give me the one you think is best to show OU.)

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2012, 10:21:46 PM »
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #22 on: September 21, 2012, 08:13:48 PM »
Interview - Richard VIALLE: Part 6 & Part 7 (video 4/7)

Video is in french but an english subtitle has been made - please activate subtitle button in youtube window buttons (second button starting from left within the button bar at the bottom of the youtube video window)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOjtRO1aqco

Video n°4/7

Abstract

Part6:
Theoretical explanations of the link between resistance change and time change with QDC (pigtail)
Looped expansion move of the 4th dimension in our 3D dimensions
Electric field and electric charge: energy fields drilling our 3D
Publication of Richard VIALLE's theory.

Part 7:
Origin of the available overunity: electronic oscillation within the atoms thanks to variable mass
Electrostatic equivalent mass
Atomic electrons into resonance
Theoretical basis of the way you can put into resonance electrons with a magnetic oscillating field

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #23 on: September 21, 2012, 08:15:08 PM »
Interview - Richard VIALLE: Part 8 & Part 9 (video 5/7)

Download the file concerning the 1st selfgenerator here (french only for the moment, wait for a translation):
http://zedico.info/Extraits_Publics/Pascuser/autogenerateur_1.pdf

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Error: Time 13min17s: divide K by additionnal factor 2
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Abstract:

Part 8:
Schematic of the overunity selfgenerator
Pictures
Overunity: Link with theory
Frequency for overunity
Cold current, hot current
Losses with Joule effect and skin depth effect

Part 9 (too much technical, don't watch it if not a physicist)
Calculation of power
Negative mass and electron spin
Overunity gain calculation withon the atom: way to have it and formula
Gravitation
Frequency for overunity: link with bar length
« Last Edit: September 21, 2012, 10:18:36 PM by Pascuser »

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #24 on: September 21, 2012, 08:18:44 PM »
Document (french only for the moment, wait for a later translation) about the autogenerateur (selfgenerator) 2nd version: U shape
Download here (french): http://zedico.info/Extraits_Publics/Pascuser/autogenerateur_2.pdf

Excel File to calculate autogenerateur 1st and 2nd version caracteristics (french only for the moment, wait for a later translation)
Download here (french): http://www.conspirovniscience.com/stockage/richardv/Formules.xls

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #25 on: September 21, 2012, 08:22:44 PM »
Jean-Louis Naudin (creator of JLN Labs) was interested in the overunity generator (asd he is french, he can read all the french documentation and understand very well interviews).

Since late august he was interested in working on it, and last days he did the work. His replications works very well. Up to know he didn't compute the COP; but could obtain all was described, and output power from a cut copper bar, with no electric contact inside; output tuning like described, and so on.

His web page describing his work (french page):
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/index.htm

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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2012, 10:51:30 AM »
Jean-Louis Naudin (creator of JLN Labs) was interested in the overunity generator (asd he is french, he can read all the french documentation and understand very well interviews).

Since late august he was interested in working on it, and last days he did the work. His replications works very well. Up to know he didn't compute the COP; but could obtain all was described, and output power from a cut copper bar, with no electric contact inside; output tuning like described, and so on.

His web page describing his work (french page):
http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/index.htm

@Pascuser

Merci pour publier les fichiers autogenerateur_1 et autogenerateu_2. C'est beaucoup plus clair maintenant.

Je suis très heureux que Jean Naudin s'occupe de cette invention. On va voir bientôt des résultats.

Cordialement,

Conrad
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@Pascuser

Thank you for the files autogenerateur_1 and autogenerateu_2, now we know what we are talking about. Your videos are nice, but just too much to digest. Most people (and I am such a person) need clear and precise circuit diagrams and at least some trustworthy results before spending money and time on a OU claim.

I think that the gist of the two files autogenerateur_1 and autogenerateu_2 can be understood (from the diagrams) by people who do not read French (or only have poor French reading skills).

The tests and explanations by Jean-Louis Naudin are just great (he does exactly what I expected from Pascuser). Naudin even designed a suitable pulse generator (Royer oscillator) http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/ugentest3.htm.

In case Jean-Louis Naudin gets encouraging results, I am in. Once Jean Louis Naudin sees something, I am prepared to wade through many videos and to try to understand an elaborate theory.

I encourage everybody to look at Jean Louis Naudin's pages http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/index.htm  (they are in French, but the photos and specially the schematics tell a clear story independent of language).

Greetings, Conrad
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2012, 01:01:18 PM »
Nice to see JLN back into it after such a quiet time
 
 
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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #28 on: September 23, 2012, 12:39:17 PM »
Interview - Richard VIALLE: Part 10 & Part 11 (video 6/7)

Video is in french but an english subtitle has been made - please activate subtitle button in youtube window buttons (second button starting from left within the button bar at the bottom of the youtube video window)

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxFZmGKP4UI

Download the file concerning the 2nd U autogenerateur here (french only for the moment):
http://zedico.info/Extraits_Publics/Pascuser/autogenerateur_2.pdf

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Video n°6/7

Abstract:

Part 10:
Autogenerateur: electric model
Pictures and movies of the U
Output power measurement
Loop running the autogenerateur: overunity
Negative power
Tuning input and tuning output
Many movies of experiments

Part 11:
Ferrite autogenerateur: new system
Diagram and pictures
Difficulties
 


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Re: Richard VIALLE's new theory about negative mass and overunity
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2012, 08:43:20 AM »
@Pascuser:

In your video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxFZmGKP4UI and in Naudin's tests http://jnaudin.free.fr/rvproject/html/ugentest6.htm I see that

one needs a very high input (into the U-shaped coil) in order to get a small output (via the light bulb at the copper tubes).

In Naudin's test the input is about 6 Watt (205 mA at 29,5 Volt) and the output (via the lamp) is about 0,6 Watt (100 mA at 6 Volt).

The fact that the input does not change (in Naudin's test) whether the lamp is connected or not is interesting but can not prove OU.

So, my question: Why do you claim OU?

Greetings, Conrad

P.S.: Imagine a radio station (radio wave transmitter). The power input to the radio station does not change whether the people turn on their radios (radio wave receivers) or not.

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