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Author Topic: Simple to build isolation transformer that consumes less power than it gives out  (Read 221189 times)

Offline T-1000

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Looks very interesting...

I would like to replicate this, though i don't think i have any 1:1 transformers. Can anyone show me how to connect the two transformers to create a step-up - step-down transformers with a spark gap?

Also, do both 1:1 transformers need the same number of windings to achieve resonance, if not can you calculate the capacitance over T2 to achieve it?

The mains power gives 50/60Hz so you have a frequency and you also can measure inductance of your transformer windings. So you can easily calculate capacitance needed for that frequency.

With step-up+step-down transformers it is same setup just with isolation over spark gap. Also you need to fire it only on sine wave peaks and then interrupt discharge as soon as possible.

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Offline Magluvin

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Still interested. ;]

Maybe there are dome elements for transformers in my sim(falstad) like capacitance between primary and secondary, etc. that are not programmed in.

Im going to try a couple home made 1to1 toroid transformers and drive it with an audio amp.

Just to give it a shot.

Hey Jack.  Was this just something you came up with, or have you seen it somewhere?

I have read and found that if an inductor is in series with a load on a secondary, that when you apply the load/inductor to the secondary, the primary idle current will decrease instead of increase. But the output is not greater than the input. One thing is, if the primary is in resonance, applying the load/inductor to the secondary wont kill the resonance. Still working on those things.

But here, you have an inductor on each leg of the secondary of TR1, and the 2 inductors are magnetically in contact with each other. And what ever else might be going on. It seems new and fresh. ;]

Thanks for showing it. ;]   


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Offline gsmsslsb

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Beware, if you dont know how trafos are winded you have 50 % chance to guess correct when you connect lower coil in second trafo. If you put it wrong way you will consume all power in your first trafo. Use a light bulb as current limiter at first trafo.
 
Or you can skip the first trafo and use enough caps instead, check the other picture I posted. In this case the first trafo will be in the grid somewhere.

Hello Jack
Haveyou tried with one transformer and caps as above and do you still get the same effect. Sorry dumb quetsion I found it now
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Offline Jack Noskills

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Earlier I said that when using one transformer connected directly to mains it shooted back when load was disconnected. I played a bit more with the proto yesterday and kick back was gone. Then I realised it was the caps I was experimenting with that were the cause. So it is quite safe to use even one trafo.
 
This means, that any 1:1 isolation transformer can be turned into a OU generator provided that the idle current in normal trafo mode is low enough. The lower this idle current is the more efficient the generator will be. If idle current is too high then you can try to tune it with parallel cap as T-1000 suggested, it worked for me very well even I did not find the exact spot. Just threw in 1 uf caps until light went out. Bare hands on live circuit, what other would you expect from me lol.

My test coils were very fine wire and of small size. Lets say we want to use core that can output 500 watts in normal trafo mode. This means it can put out 500 w + 500 w - coil resistance and it will use only the idle current. The driving coil can still be fine wire, it does not get hot because only idle current goes there. The output coil however does all the work and it will get hot so cannot use fine wire. Thicker wire will need the same amount of turns so trafo could get big. This is not good but we just have to live with it as long as trafo is connected directly to mains. Also, thicker wire will induce more into first coil as resistance in thicker wire is smaller, normal trafo operation, so it starts pushing back. This is ok as long as it does not push it back to grid. We dont want to burn up pole pigs. Pushing back does not occur if coils are similar kind of wire. If you want to seek for resonance, then load should be off while you search for a sweet spot with parallel cap. This is my opinion, untested.
 
Self runner will only make this moveable, smaller thus portable and more powerfull. When frequency can be increased things get better. But this needs development and a developer and it will be the second step.


Offline Jack Noskills

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Trafos were made by Chagzou Jutai or something, rated at 20 watts. Smashed four and got the coils from there.

Mags, I found it myself but I am quite sure this is already somewhere in Tesla's patents and if not there then hidden in some underground bunker under US patent office along with the rest 5000+ free energy patents.
 
Barotolougos, welcome to the winning side of team ! Glad I did not offend you. I should have added smoke screen in front of the goal so as not make 500 million people watching it from TV to look stupid.
 
AndrejSL, no spark gaps as it only breaks it. I tried GDT in the load using the basic Tesla circuit, current consumtion increased while no gain at output. Well maybe I did it wrong, but it will be difficult to get it working as sparks introduce asymmetricity while we need perfect symmetry. No SGs means also no emissions, radiation, ozone or any that kind stuff, just plain trafo operation. They cannot put a law against using trafos. We need exactly the same sine wave to go back as we got it from the source. If there is a spark then this correct wave is no more and input starts pushing.
 
Science only have to explain where comes the magnetic field when current goes on in a wire. To my knowledge, they haven't explained and don't think we need to wait for an explanation. This is the only magic at work here. We merely give back exactly the same sinewave in same phase than what came in, then source does not see this difference and things do not change at first trafo, be it in grid or two connected together as I first made it. We will need two trafos only in the self runner.
 
Doc, I have taken patent route couple times in another matters and it was a pain even company I work for got paid hands to do the communication with them. First patent took about 4 years to finish, second is at 10 years now and still counting and it is obsolete now. Besides I don't think this can be patented and even if it could be patented I would not take patent route again. Trying to patent this, I would only end up being bribed, shot or something worse. I am well aware of free energy suppression stories thanks to PJK's web site. If you decide to send me a gold medal, then it would be nice to have it with some sort of nice looking certificate signed by you. I will then put it in a wireframe together with the medal and place it in my bedroom wall. Then I can see it everyday and get good feeling everyday, don't want to stuff it in a box to be forgotten. Gold medal is always a gold medal. Never made into olympics but I think they stuff some other metals in theirs so this will be much better.

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Offline Jack Noskills

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Could this project be run using a pair of toroids instead of the regualr trandformers?

Paul-R

Yes, what ever core material you have can be used, you only need to find correct combination of coil length, or coil length and amount of parallel capacitance. Divide toroid in two logical halves and wind coils on it, one on each side exact same amount of turns. This needs to be high self inductance at lower frequencies so it blocks current flow, or you can parallel caps in the first coil to block your grid frequency. So this is a trade off between amount of caps and coil length. I have explained this earlier, you should find better answer there.

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One more picture to wrap up the first phase of replication in order to avoid any misunderstandings.

And beware, if coils are in wrong way you will get all the power trafo can give times two in the source, so find correct position of lower coil using cap or light bulb as current limiter first. If you need to tune, remove current limiter if you are not using a cap.

« Last Edit: July 06, 2012, 01:10:59 PM by Jack Noskills »

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Offline norman6538

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John go borrow a meter from someone you know and then come back with the numbers
and if they are good I'll get excited and start building too.
I already wasted too much time on somebody else's good idea that did not work.
I have other things on my plate to do now.


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Offline Jack Noskills

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John go borrow a meter from someone you know and then come back with the numbers
and if they are good I'll get excited and start building too.
I already wasted too much time on somebody else's good idea that did not work.
I have other things on my plate to do now.


Norman

barotolougos already duplicated, though not highest efficiency because of high idle current. With a bit of math and finding correct parallel cap he will get it right and happy days for us all.
 
Trust me, this is the real deal. Or I am blind and cannot feel heat difference of two similar light bulbs correctly. One burns my hand while other is cold. You don't have to attempt to duplicate if you dont want to, lets enjoy the summer time.

Offline FatBird

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Jack,
 
Please post a picture of your circuit build.
 
Thank you.
 
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Offline e2matrix

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Still looking through my junk piles for some 1:1 isolation transformers.  It just occurred to me that some of the old computer UPS units probably have 1:1 transformers in them as they pass through 120 AC when not running off the battery.   Getting ready to pull a couple apart to check it out.  As I've gotten some cheap at garage sales this might be a good source for higher power 1:1 transformers since they seem to be quite expensive from sources I've seen so far.  I'm not sure on this but will post later what I find. 
   
   Old Tripp Lite had 3 transformers but no luck with 1:1's.  Still a few more to check out.   Now I'm thinking old high end audio equipment may have some.  got some of those laying around too. 

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Still looking through my junk piles for some 1:1 isolation transformers.  It just occurred to me that some of the old computer UPS units probably have 1:1 transformers in them as they pass through 120 AC when not running off the battery.   Getting ready to pull a couple apart to check it out.  As I've gotten some cheap at garage sales this might be a good source for higher power 1:1 transformers since they seem to be quite expensive from sources I've seen so far.  I'm not sure on this but will post later what I find. 
   
   Old Tripp Lite had 3 transformers but no luck with 1:1's.  Still a few more to check out.   Now I'm thinking old high end audio equipment may have some.  got some of those laying around too.

E2,

All switch mode power supplies such as used in computers has a 1:1 Ferrite transformer at the AC input line.
The transformers are small but could be used at lower wattage for testing purpose.

GL.


Offline JouleSeeker

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Well, earlier today I ordered two isolation trafos that I found on-line --  on the right in attached.   $11.66 each, from Allied Electronics.
The one on the left, toroidal, is also an isolation trafo and almost did that, but cost $18.11 each... maybe next time, but soon I'll have the two little guys (1.7lbs each actually).

  I was surprised I could get these at such a low price.   

Thanks again, Jack!   lots of fun and adventure thrown in...

Offline casman1969

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Single or double transformer arrangement requires higher impedance primary than secondary? Is this correct?


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Got the one to one winding part...

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