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Author Topic: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine  (Read 47159 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« on: May 06, 2012, 06:05:28 AM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW0moXn9y9U


This is a movie which shows Dennis Lee demonstrate a lawnmower engine modified with a Pantone Geet kit and running

CLOSED LOOP WITHOUT ANY EXHAUSTS !

(it is coming from a Video from his 2006 Better World Technologies tour)


So I ask myself:
Why is not every car manufacturer doing these kind of engines nowadays to completely get rid of any air pollution ?

This system just runs with the exhaust ball valve closed so there are no exhaust fumes coming out !
The CO2 exhaust fumes are probably decomposed and cracked again in the hot Geet tube and also water pyrolysis into hydrogen and oxygen takes place there so the hydrocarbons are burned much better than in a normal combustion engine.

Imagine how clean our cities could be, if every car manufacturer is forced to build your next car engine like this WITHOUT ANY POLLUTION OUTPUT !

But as these fuel cracker and vapouriser systems also have a too high Miles per Gallon
ratio, the oil industries dont like it and car manufacturers are forced to build cars with low MPG ratios and much more fuel consumption and the exhaust pollutes our breathing air and small kids gets lung deseases already in very early age !

Imagine how much better the world could be with these kind of engines WITHOUT ANY EXHAUST !

There are other guys who have got these GEET modifications also to run without any exhaust and also some even without any fresh air input.

Have a look also at these examples:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4P1saTDqDJw
and
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enOFP9z_0cU

This is the only way ICE engines will survive for a bit before electromotors will
kick them totally out of business !

Regards., Stefan.

P.S. The story with the EPA is a scandal ! Please share this and tell all your friends about it !
Many thanks !

German language article about it:

http://www.overunity.de/1420/motor-ohne-abgase-looped-pantome-geet-warum-hat-...

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2012, 06:17:05 PM »
Having seen Pantone in the late 90's I was not very impressed.  He couldn't get the engine started.  However I think his involvement with some other questionable technologies did more to damage his credibility in my mind.  That being said I do believe his device works to both reduce pollution greatly and to possibly use water as well as other liquids for fuel.  However it seems the engines have little power.  Has anyone ever converted a car engine and gotten it to run down the road?  I see he is now giving away free plans not only for the lawnmower size engine but a full size car engine.  I heard he got put in jail a while back for fraud I believe.  Of course that may have simply been suppression forces at work. A number of Geet web sites seem to be missing.  This technology seems simpler than many HHO systems so if it has real world usefulness why isn't there more interest.  Having Dennis Lee promoting it is not the most confidence inspiring plan either.  With Lee's reputation and style it probably does more harm than good if people know about him.  I do realize Lee may be another casualty of suppression forces but his long ago promised magnet motor generator has never seen the light of day.   

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2012, 12:03:45 AM »
This is real basic - an engine has to have oxygen - therefore ask yourself where the oxygen comes from. I've seen this myself and came to the conclusion that it comes from crankcase
leakage up past the piston. Remember a gas engine is a vacuum sucker when the piston goes down. I doubt that you can do any more than run a stationary engine this way. Driving down
the highway is probably not possible due to more oxygen is required than would be possible to leak past the piston.
  My real problem with GEET is that I know of no dealer driving a GEET vehicle and saving gas even though I have personally known 3 dealers who gave up on GEET.

I made a GEET mower and bought and paid for Pantone plans and the result was not better than a vapor carburetor at 30% longer runtime than stock gas and carb but Coleman camping fuel will get double the runtime on a vapor carburetor on a small lawn mower with a govenor.

Norman

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2012, 03:58:58 AM »
Hi Harti-Berlin,

Thanks for these vids.

I do know that this Geet is very criticized, mocked and derided.
Was not Paul Pantone jailed?
Right.
For fraud?
Any proof?

Actually this Geet has been very successfully replicated and improved
by some witty French experimenters.

For my part, I'm not impressed at all with this 'know it all'
individual aka E2matrix.

Very best from Brest

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2012, 06:26:20 PM »
Hi Harti-Berlin,

Thanks for these vids.

I do know that this Geet is very criticized, mocked and derided.
Was not Paul Pantone jailed?
Right.
For fraud?
Any proof?

Actually this Geet has been very successfully replicated and improved
by some witty French experimenters.

For my part, I'm not impressed at all with this 'know it all'
individual aka E2matrix.

Very best from Brest
That's funny.  Where did I claim or even act like a 'know it all'?  If you have read many of my posts you would see I am one of the first to admit I don't have nearly as much knowledge as many here have.  I was simply sharing my experience and was basically saying the same as you and others here on the viability of Geet technology.  I am sure there are some people here trying to impress others with their knowledge or skills but I am not one of them.  I'm sure any one who has been around this forum and other energy forums for a while would certainly agree with that.   

   If you are referring the the French experimenter I have seen in a youtube then I would agree that some have taken the basic concept and improved on it.  I had forgotten about that person.  See ?  I can't even remember it all let alone 'know it all'  LOL...

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
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Offline gauschor

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2012, 06:49:32 PM »
I think that automobile industries would use this feature if it worked. Afaik there's also a limit for exhaust (at least in some european countries) for automobiles, and it seems the specific industries try to keep the exhaust fumes low if possible.
You must think that way: everyone wants his products to be the best and sold the most. Everyone wants to be praised and advertised. And a car with this feature would get a lot of public recognition and official notice. If you watch the common car advertisements all of them are "en par" with exhaust. Obviously they got nothing better. These industries also have an army for research and development, so they are not completely ignorant.

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2012, 12:05:43 AM »
Looking at these video's one thing is clear the noise coming out of these motors is far greater than it should be. The noise is clearly exhaust so its coming out somewhere and if you look closely the amount of gas coming through the bubblers isnt anywhere near what is going in. The simplicity of this design is that the exhaust is cooled by the water thus reducing its volume until the water finally heats up. If you cant get enough power from your lawnmower to mow the lawn then what use is the whole system.

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2012, 12:35:40 AM »
That's funny.  Where did I claim or even act like a 'know it all'?  If you have read many of my posts you would see I am one of the first to admit I don't have nearly as much knowledge as many here have.  I was simply sharing my experience and was basically saying the same as you and others here on the viability of Geet technology.  I am sure there are some people here trying to impress others with their knowledge or skills but I am not one of them.  I'm sure any one who has been around this forum and other energy forums for a while would certainly agree with that.   

   If you are referring the the French experimenter I have seen in a youtube then I would agree that some have taken the basic concept and improved on it.  I had forgotten about that person.  See ?  I can't even remember it all let alone 'know it all'  LOL...
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OK "E2matrix"
Actually, I have not taken the time to read your previous posts. :-[

My apologies.
It should had been a 'language barrier effect' or a paranoiac inclination
of my own.

Sorry and Very Best

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2013, 12:31:50 AM »
Here is another engine running just on its exhaust gases.

The oxygene can also come from the used water via pyrolysis also.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHcm_nUZsOc

So a NO Exhaust engine can work, when it is designed right !

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2013, 05:28:02 AM »
Hi Stefan
the fuel is still required to power it and the fuel used is directly proportional to the energy stored in that fuel.
There is no magic here other than probably a higher burn efficiency.
Kind regards
Mark




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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
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Offline tinman

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2013, 07:44:25 AM »
Hi Stefan
the fuel is still required to power it and the fuel used is directly proportional to the energy stored in that fuel.
There is no magic here other than probably a higher burn efficiency.
Kind regards
Mark
Hi Mark
Looking at Stefan's opening comment to this thread,i think he is concentraiting more on the fact that we can reduce or eliminate emmisions from the exaust. Any system,no matter what,will always have a fuel or energy source. This also means that there can be no OU machine's.It will only be OU until the fuel or energy source is found-much like the solar pannel.

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2013, 08:13:13 AM »
Hi Tinman
I am a fan of yours and love your work
Kind Regards




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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2013, 11:28:59 AM »
Ditto.
 :)

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2013, 12:19:08 AM »
Yes, Mark, fuel is needed, but no exhaust means no pollution ! .)

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Re: NO EXHAUST Engine - Closed loop Pantone Geet engine
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2013, 11:57:06 PM »
If you cant get enough power from your lawnmower to mow the lawn then what use is the whole system.
Done correctly,you can get as much power as you need.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4RMQg0Rj3I

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