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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2012, 03:08:15 AM »
GHOST I would imagine you would have trouble with open source of sharpening a pencil, your mouth gives away your intelligence. I figure you are young maybe you even finished grade school. but still I see nothing you have done .

Open source is when some one puts out a idea and people add to it...........and your productive contribution in anything is what ?

The idea would have to be shared as a whole and not partially to be considered open source. Then people can add to it...
And if I ever achieve over unity/free energy I would share it in a hart beat! So far I have not, not yet anyway.
so don't give me that shit!
Can you believe this guy? lol!
Jesus fucking Christ! Get over yourself.

Have a nice day :-)

peace.
     

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2012, 03:57:42 AM »
I give up....when the Idiot is gone, I will return to continue , for people interested please use PM



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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2012, 04:28:41 AM »
Thank God!

This way you'll be doing us (most of us anyway) all a favor.

Have a nice day :-)

Peace.

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #18 on: May 04, 2012, 05:17:09 AM »
I thought it was me ! I love it . It seems that when you expect people to THINK they take offense . Protech maybe you and I should team up for my project ... seems we have the same friends . No actually he is right , this is an OS website and everyone here promises to deliver although the substance of what they promise is not so cut and dried .

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #19 on: May 04, 2012, 06:09:12 PM »
Ghost I'm sorry,  your right,  I should just leave you alone with your crayons and spoon . By your comment I know you are a real smart girl . I SHOWED YOU MINE NOW SHOW ME YOURS.

open source has to start some place, please tell me how it's done

  If you look at my posts over the last few years, you'll see a good example.
The designs posted also include a very workable pendulum.
 Myself, am prepping to build using wood. Do believe that is what Bessler
used. And in a sense, it will be much more complex than your simple build.
Still, nice show  :o
 Myself, have made so many parts from aluminum, wood will be a nice change
of pace   8)

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edited to add; machinist by trade  :D
@Chris, sure you're not AB Hammer ?

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2012, 09:38:24 AM »
No . I'm Johann Bessler reincarnate. ;)

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2012, 03:38:16 PM »
Ah nothing like work off paper

   Hi ProTech,
 I think you do nice work. I do have a proposition fort you and the memebers of this forum.
I know what you were thinking when you built your pendulum. I tried getting a similar idea
across to someone else. Since then, I have realized how to make it work.
 The attached diagram shows the difference in potential a swinging weight has. By understanding
this, we can understand how we can use it. As an example, if the weight swings in to an angle of
30 degrees, it's side ways movement will be about 1/2 the distance it is from it's fulcrum.
 I think you will understand the drawing better than others. With all of the different blue prints you've
probably have looked at, you'll get it.
 When the swing weight is in it's inner position, it will be a value of 4 from the center line of the
cross beams fulcrum. If the counter weight is a value of 10 from the  same center line, there is a difference
in potential that can be taken advantage of.
 As such things go, when the swinging weight is allowed to swing to it's outer position, it would be a value
of 16 from the center line. This would cause the cross beam to want to tilt in that direction.
 While most people would look at the drop and lift of the fulcrum of tyhe swinging weight, that is not what
would allow it to work. What would is when the swinging weight is caught in it's inner postion, it can then
be hoisted a little higher while the cross beam is tilting in the direction of the counter weight. And that would
be the secret.
 And what would it take to make this all happen ? IMHO, if the people int his forum asked you to modify or
recycle your build and took an interest in it while you worked on it. I know it is a lot of work and it is probably
something you would find frustrating at times. After all, you are experienced when it comes to building and
making things. Your work shows this. Unfortunately, most people in here do not have your skills. But then,
if they were to talk you into working on something like this, then maybe you can teach them a little about
what it takes to build something like what you've done.
 As for the patent rights if the concept works ? Give them to the Salvation Army. This will keep greed out
of this. And what would be in it for you  ? As for the rest of us, possibly some life time friendships worth
having. And for you / You would probably find you would get a little more as you would be the man who
built it. I think people would be wanting to meet you if not at least see you on t.v.
 And as for Christo, I think it was Jesus who said throw pearls before swine and they will trample the
pearls and then trample you.
 In the end proTech, it is up to you and is something for you to think about. As for everyone else, why not
take the chance on making a friend and possibly being a part of getting it to happen. After all, I think PT
would appreciate the interest you guys would show in his work and you might find it interesting what it
takes to make something like this. As for the engineering, I think it is somethign all of you can understand, even
if it takes a little time. And in the end, I think this is something we would all benefit from.
 
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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2012, 03:44:11 PM »
  I know the drawing doesn't show up the clearest, so ...

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2012, 10:52:07 PM »
   @All,
 I am going into private building.
The primary reason is I believe Christo4_99 is Alan Bauldree. He has used other aliases like Lady Silver Belles and grayone (his sons account which he used).
 His desire is to take credit for my work. And by using a fake name like Christo (actually should be spelled Cristo, Alan is also a poor speller). As such, while he wishes to be famous, he is to lazy to do the work. Her knows religious people would believe he is responsible for me by posting how he hates builders and thinks it is all about the Benjamins.
 I think it is sad that he would try to take someone's hobby and use it as an opportunity for himself. What was it he (Christo/AB Hammer posted int he thread Bessler's brilliant device ? He will not let me pigeon hole Bessler's work in a forum for over unity.
 This means he will do what he has to to turn it into something religious. An ignorant man's get famous the easy way scam.
 Kind of makes me wish I never attended church or read the Bible. But Alan has posted previously he does not believe I should be allowed to be responsible for myself.
 Of course, in a thread Ralph Lortie started soliciting build ideas as he wished to prove Broli wrong about him was when I first suggested donating any invention to charity. And why would I have done so ? Without any written legal agreement in place, anyone posting in the thread would have a claim to the invention and as such would have the right to sue for what they believe their contribution was worth. And with people like Christo/AB Hammer, I believe they would be willing to sue. this would mean that the courts could freeze any money to be made for many years as things work through the courts. In the mean time, the lawyers would be making all of the money.
 And it would be like AB Hammer/Christo to turn something like that into something like they are Jesus and are taking over the work and taking credit for it.
 Also, while it would make some money, fighting over it could make it worth little and the stress it could bring into people's lives might not be worth any financial gain.
 That is the reality and yes, I do believe Chris Wells to be Alan Bauldree. While it is also possible he just like Alan and wants credit because he has that big of an ego. Watch American Greed, there are a lot of scam artists out there trying what ever they can to make a buck. What I find funny is someone coming into a forum like this and using the screen name Christ.
 As such, I will be mailing the patent paper today. It costs only $110.00 for a provisional patent. As such, while I have opened this idea, I will close it by completing the design.
 The 2 levers that are @ a right angle will use leverage to lift the pendulum's weight higher than the tilting of the cross beam would allow. This will allow it to swing ina  state of perpetuality by stopping the pendulum's weight in it's inner position and holding it until it is lifted.
 The lever doing the leveraging will be on a pin that has 2 flat sides. When sufficient rotation occurs, the leveraging lever can slide downwards ( to the right ) releasing the pendulum's weight.
 The reason the pendulum's weight can be lifted using leverage is that the counter balance weight could have in the axample shown 2 1/2 times more force. As shown, 25% of this force would be used to tilt the cross beam lift the fulcrum and the pendulum's weight. This would leave 75% of the force of which some can be used by the leveraging lever to increase the potential of the pendulum's weight while still allowing the counter balance to be the greater force.
 And to think, my brother Harold wondered why I spent my evenings studying math. Of course, he would also say I helped him when he needed it ebcause of possibly what I learned in church. My family did not attend, but my friend's family did. And one thing I remember reading in the Bible is the parable of the shifting sand. With my hearing loss, math was the foundation that helped me. And for the amount of work I have put into everything, some times the lazy ones like Chris (not Cristo) and Alan miss the point of, things quit being about money but about trying to have a decent life where you (me, I) don't have to worry about people like them making my life difficult. But since they are lazy minded people, they don't have a clue about what respect is. This is one reason why Chris (a.k.a. AB Hammer ?) would say they are Bessler reincarnated. And to me, that is sad.
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had to switch pics  :o
 
p.s. the 1st Amendment allows me the right to say I believe Chris and Alan are possibly the same people and if not share the same values of which in this instance is to try to claim responsibility for my beliefs and or values.

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2012, 04:12:38 PM »
   @All,
 Thi idea is based on Milkovics TSO.
 I have tried contacting him. It seems my ideas are not worth his while.
 What some might miss is the amount of work that goes into something like this. There is quite a bit to it. One reason why so few people are like ProTech and actually take the time to build.
 With the amount of improvements I have made, I would have to believe that if others helped to realize a working prototype, that we would deserve credit for the work we put into realizing an accomplishment.
If Chris got one thing right, it is that people deserve something for their efforts when they are successful.

                Jim

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2012, 05:00:38 PM »
   @All,
 I am going into private building.
The primary reason is I believe Christo4_99 is Alan Bauldree. He has used other aliases like Lady Silver Belles and grayone (his sons account which he used).
 His desire is to take credit for my work. And by using a fake name like Christo (actually should be spelled Cristo, Alan is also a poor speller). As such, while he wishes to be famous, he is to lazy to do the work. Her knows religious people would believe he is responsible for me by posting how he hates builders and thinks it is all about the Benjamins.
 I think it is sad that he would try to take someone's hobby and use it as an opportunity for himself. What was it he (Christo/AB Hammer posted int he thread Bessler's brilliant device ? He will not let me pigeon hole Bessler's work in a forum for over unity.
 This means he will do what he has to to turn it into something religious. An ignorant man's get famous the easy way scam.
 Kind of makes me wish I never attended church or read the Bible. But Alan has posted previously he does not believe I should be allowed to be responsible for myself.
 Of course, in a thread Ralph Lortie started soliciting build ideas as he wished to prove Broli wrong about him was when I first suggested donating any invention to charity. And why would I have done so ? Without any written legal agreement in place, anyone posting in the thread would have a claim to the invention and as such would have the right to sue for what they believe their contribution was worth. And with people like Christo/AB Hammer, I believe they would be willing to sue. this would mean that the courts could freeze any money to be made for many years as things work through the courts. In the mean time, the lawyers would be making all of the money.
 And it would be like AB Hammer/Christo to turn something like that into something like they are Jesus and are taking over the work and taking credit for it.
 Also, while it would make some money, fighting over it could make it worth little and the stress it could bring into people's lives might not be worth any financial gain.
 That is the reality and yes, I do believe Chris Wells to be Alan Bauldree. While it is also possible he just like Alan and wants credit because he has that big of an ego. Watch American Greed, there are a lot of scam artists out there trying what ever they can to make a buck. What I find funny is someone coming into a forum like this and using the screen name Christ.
 As such, I will be mailing the patent paper today. It costs only $110.00 for a provisional patent. As such, while I have opened this idea, I will close it by completing the design.
 The 2 levers that are @ a right angle will use leverage to lift the pendulum's weight higher than the tilting of the cross beam would allow. This will allow it to swing ina  state of perpetuality by stopping the pendulum's weight in it's inner position and holding it until it is lifted.
 The lever doing the leveraging will be on a pin that has 2 flat sides. When sufficient rotation occurs, the leveraging lever can slide downwards ( to the right ) releasing the pendulum's weight.
 The reason the pendulum's weight can be lifted using leverage is that the counter balance weight could have in the axample shown 2 1/2 times more force. As shown, 25% of this force would be used to tilt the cross beam lift the fulcrum and the pendulum's weight. This would leave 75% of the force of which some can be used by the leveraging lever to increase the potential of the pendulum's weight while still allowing the counter balance to be the greater force.
 And to think, my brother Harold wondered why I spent my evenings studying math. Of course, he would also say I helped him when he needed it ebcause of possibly what I learned in church. My family did not attend, but my friend's family did. And one thing I remember reading in the Bible is the parable of the shifting sand. With my hearing loss, math was the foundation that helped me. And for the amount of work I have put into everything, some times the lazy ones like Chris (not Cristo) and Alan miss the point of, things quit being about money but about trying to have a decent life where you (me, I) don't have to worry about people like them making my life difficult. But since they are lazy minded people, they don't have a clue about what respect is. This is one reason why Chris (a.k.a. AB Hammer ?) would say they are Bessler reincarnated. And to me, that is sad.
                                                                                                                                 Jim
had to switch pics  :o
 
p.s. the 1st Amendment allows me the right to say I believe Chris and Alan are possibly the same people and if not share the same values of which in this instance is to try to claim responsibility for my beliefs and or values.


Get over yourself  Jim.

Cristo4_99 is just another person you are arguing with. You are the one who has had so many sign-ins it seems we would almost need a calculator to add them up. You must still blame me for your many banned names from other sights for your actions not mine.

This is how I feel-
I have no time for you, or your delusions.  You just can't help yourself but to try to drag me down, taking every chance to put my name into what you don't like.  So why don't you do us all a favor. Take a long walk off a short peer in shark infested waters.
You have never showed anything in your 2nd grade attempts as a designer that I would ever want.

 I don't take claim of anybody else's designs. The wheel is bigger than all of us. 

SO LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR DELUSIONS JIM >:(


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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2012, 06:31:16 PM »
alan.
I had Stefan delete my old account because of you.
 Anyone can check the thread My Current Build when I used BA Hammer.
 Even being treated for cancer, all I hdard was you.
 And yet what have you shown :)  like chris, nothing.
 And what have I shown ? A very workable concept  where I am willing to work with others.
Of course, I do have the Bessler. So I guess I do believe I do deserve  some credit for my work.
 That could be one issue Protech has.
 But then, you and chris want recognition without contributing anything.

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2012, 07:52:47 PM »
protech,
kind of why working off line might b better.
had someone tell me once they like alan because he is entertaining and no one in here believes it is possible.
 what I think is funny is that alan thinks they think he is  smart when they dont really care.
 got Bessler to work on and will take my time.
 bye
Jim

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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2012, 04:05:11 PM »

Get over yourself  Jim.

Cristo4_99 is just another person you are arguing with. You are the one who has had so many sign-ins it seems we would almost need a calculator to add them up. You must still blame me for your many banned names from other sights for your actions not mine.

This is how I feel-
I have no time for you, or your delusions.  You just can't help yourself but to try to drag me down, taking every chance to put my name into what you don't like.  So why don't you do us all a favor. Take a long walk off a short peer in shark infested waters.
 I don't take claim of anybody else's designs. The wheel is bigger than all of us. 

SO LEAVE ME OUT OF YOUR DELUSIONS JIM >:(

   Alan
 I think this sums it up, << You have never showed anything in your 2nd grade attempts as a designer that I would ever want. >>
 
 What are your last words ? what you want. It really hasn't mattered to you the medical problems I've been dealing with.
 Math is an important tool in understanding how overunity works. Ideals are worthless unless there is the knowledge available to engineer them.
 Protech could build Tom's pendulum easily. No reason he should want to.
And Alan, I don't like you and it is personal.  You've always disliked the way I use math to understand what I'm doing. Not sure if I'll build Bessler's wheel. Any more it is a stupid joke. Look at besslerwheel dot com where you're a highly respected person. And for what ? Participating in a forum where rlortie who finances it openly posts "why try, it's been 300 years". And he's #1 on the credible list.
 You did do what you could to discredit the design I've been pursuing. Your posts are still there. But who knows, maybe you can talk to Protech and maybe you and him can help with Tom's idea. It's one that is easy enough to test the lift by opening the scissors, then step by step work through it. After all, you're a metal smith, so maybe you guys can show off your skills a little by working together.
 
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Re: Pendulum shift
« Reply #29 on: May 13, 2012, 07:01:08 PM »
alan.
I had Stefan delete my old account because of you.
 Anyone can check the thread My Current Build when I used BA Hammer.
 Even being treated for cancer, all I hdard was you.
 And yet what have you shown :)  like chris, nothing.
 And what have I shown ? A very workable concept  where I am willing to work with others.
Of course, I do have the Bessler. So I guess I do believe I do deserve  some credit for my work.
 That could be one issue Protech has.
 But then, you and chris want recognition without contributing anything.

Tell the truth Jim.  You had Stefan delete your old account to hide your harassment of myself and your incompetency.  Not to mention all the readers have to do is look up my strings and see I have posted way more than you  here.  You keep complaining about your cancer, that has not killed you and I am not complaining about my disabilities for they have no place here. I guess mine don't count in your world either (does it.) You need to quit using your cancer history as a crutch. Get over it, or you will make your life more miserable.