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broli

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« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2012, 07:44:04 PM »
Before contacting engadget you should at least have a working iPhone battery. There's enough people you can contact at engadget, here's a list http://www.engadget.com/about. You can disclose it as some early technological prototype than you wish to give engadget as an exclusive to report on.

Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2012, 06:30:47 AM »
I have deleted the million dollar prize page on the website.

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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2012, 08:19:35 PM »
Philip;
 
(a) Do you have any ideas about what the scientific laws
that will replace the Carnot's perfect gas cycle engine
and refrigerator thermodynamic laws will look like once
your device has been proven to work? I mean this
question with the utmost respect to you and your
invention.
 
It seems to me that if either the heat engine or the heat
refrigerator in a Carnot' loop becomes more efficient beyond
a specific amounts then a second law of thermodynamics
violator can become a first law violator and perpetual
motion machines beyond Mawell's Demons become possible.
(b)Does some other limitation kick in to prevent this
from happening, or does this really go on and happen.
I'm wondering if this limitation might reflect the differences
between latent and radiant heating.
 
(c)If certain LENR devices could make use of your invention
then their complexity drops enormously, putting them back
in a race for least-parts-count LENR device leadership to
produce upgraded (electrical) energy. Have you considered
how to handle this probably rather disruptive circumstance?
 
Thank you in advance for your input. Wishing you the best
in your new product launch.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2012, 04:38:18 AM »
Sorry for the delay in answering questions, things are busy at the moment.

@Stefan, the quencos being made for hearing aids are just 1mm x 1mm x 50um thick, so they look like a bit of glitter.

@ broli, yes I am jumping the gun by a few months but it would be nice to talk to engadget and set something up, they can have a hearing aid battery to evaluate before the iPhone battery.
 
@ mscoffaman, I get into enough trouble just stating a violation of the Kelvin interpretation of the 2nd Law so please do not even suggest I am claiming a violation of the First Law of TD. Quenco is a logical and very simple device, it converts a small percentage of tail energy electrons (the hotter than average) and in doing so converts kinetic energy to electrical potential energy, there is no creation of energy and therefore no violation of the 1st law.

I will not be posting anything more here until a few days before the launch. On the launch I will be posting lots of good stuff to leave you with no doubt that quenco is the real deal.

Phil

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« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2012, 02:40:11 AM »
Hi Phillip Hardcastle.


Is good to see you again, We believe in your work.  The theory of previous designs was very good, I hope that this new application, a solid state device, with the help of God,  will be a complete success.

The 100$ battery is a good way to get recognition, keep the good work, the world needit. Any battery maker will be happy to test and buy your IP, inclusive in china.

Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #35 on: May 07, 2012, 01:58:12 PM »
Thanks Elisha.


I have posted some updates including an idea I have adopted from comments to build a USB eternal power source.


www.quentron.com




broli

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« Reply #36 on: May 07, 2012, 03:07:25 PM »
Again one of the technologies I'm really looking forward to this year.

 I hope you stick to the "get famous quick" plan. Engadget (or Gizmodo, The Verge,..), like discussed earlier, will help immensely! After you do this it could become your strongest asset and be a huge leverage to start a crowdfunded project at Kickstarter or variants, which I'm sure will be a huge succes even if the goal was set at 1mil USD. No need to chase investors, no need for backroom deals and shady contracts, this funding can help you get the first year market penetration you desired. After that the world will go crazy and you can sit back and relax.

Be as unconventional as possible, the Internet is an essentially free and very powerful medium use it to your advantage. Of course be careful as well, I'm not a conspiracy nut but strage things tend to happen. But if this goes viral, you the inventor will become deattached from the technology so even if an "unforseen" event happened to you the technology would be safe. The key element hear is proving it as fast as possible by getting it in the hands of influential people.

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« Reply #37 on: May 08, 2012, 03:41:03 AM »
Hi Phillip


The first think that you must to do is dump the fear.  This is a new world with new rules, the first rule is work together, in unity with all the world.  You allready make your part, the invention, let the world make the rest, use the power of internet.  Let engineers do the device, let big manufactures make the device, set yourself aside and let anothers do the work that they know to do.


Like broli say, "get famous quick", in the right way, dont have any fear of suppresion, copycat, fear of loosing control of your invention, everybody know that a inventor need the money for the inventions, make the intellectual property, patent, but dont put your fate in this, soon you will discover a lot of brillant scientifics that make your device a lot more powerfull, dont compite with the copycat, work with them, make them work for all the world, they will work for you.

The use of kickstarter is good option, the universal mini usb charger is also good.

The world will recognize you, like a great inventor or like another little egoistic inventor, this depend on you.

Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #38 on: May 18, 2012, 01:46:05 PM »
Hi All and Elisha and Broli,


First I have upgraded www.quentron.com


Now, most importantly I have reached some conclusions about what to do with this mega breakthrough and the input of many members here is taken onboard.


Let me first say that I do want something for 12 years of work but only enough to live my remaining life with enough to enjoy myself and enough to help my kids out.


The idea of crowd funding is appealing but has some limitations, namely that it requires things to happen without proof and within a time frame.


My idea that I would like you to consider is for me to provide on my website the proof and to get 100s of others to be satisfied that everything is 100% as I say. No fudged data or secrecy, a test showing quenco extracting heat from one cube of water such that it freezes and at the same time power from the quenco going to a heater in another cube of water where that water starts boiling. This witnessed by the top professors from the top universities and with them taking away their own piece of quenco to do whatever tests they want.


Having thus hopefully set the World press on fire I want to leave it to the thousands of engineers, amateurs, hobbyists, entrepreneurs and such to take the patent details I will publish and to make quenco for cars, boats, planes, ipods and so on.


I propose to put on my quentron website a page (and a donate button) such that once a nominal figure is reached the patent rights automatically are granted to every person on the Planet. Thus I am out of the equation and I can go on holiday whilst mega industries are created employing all the unemployed engineers, designers, machinists, car workers and such who have lost their jobs in this economic disaster.


To me the World needs a new vibrant age of invention and innovation and quenco is the fuse that starts that, I personally would only slow that down so I should get out of the way and leave myself to doing a book or a movie about how a Yorkshireman came to invent the quenco.


What do you all reckon. Please leave a comment on my website so i can add them to a page or 2.


Please, if you think what I am saying makes sense tell others and ask them to comment too.


As to the amount it would be fair for me to ask for (remember I will not have the donate page until such time as it is universally accepted that quenco works), you tell me through my contact page and I will tally the results an post them. Ask yourself how much you would want if you had given more than 12 years of your life 60hrs per week unpaid by anyone on such a World changing project.


Thanks for all the supporting comments I have received, and as to some of the nasty ones and posts on other sites may I ask what you ever did to help others? and as to the few threats made I really do not care and I note you did not have the guts to use your real names or emails.


Anyhow, will talk again soon.


Phil



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« Reply #39 on: May 18, 2012, 04:55:10 PM »
Always exciting to hear from you. In my opinion your execution plan sounds reasonable, going viral is your first and only priority. A couple of points/suggestions:

1) The donation money will be the trickiest to do right. You need a good story behind that or people will get suspicious or even worse label you a con man. And it shouldn't be called "donation money". More like "funding to free the IPO and make it a free to produce technology eliminating exclusivity and special interest control" as a favor to the world. So have an obvious meter on your website to reach this goal. Imo a 1-10 million$ goal should be reasonable to drop all license fees.

PS: I know you're very smart, and also smart to know that a technology like this can disrupt the flow of our entire civilization, things as monetary interest are a bit ludicrous if we're talking about free energy. We would shift to a resource based economy, flying around with 3d printed jetpacks, and crossing oceans like it's our backyard rather than expand on the old. But that's just between people who slightly understand the true impact of FE like us, as there's noone that can fully comprehend the change this would bring. This though shouldn't be mentioned when you go viral, in fact never mention how it will be the doom of oil or w/e. Just show what it can do and how it works and let it spread. So your kids will live in a bright future with or without the money you'll make, if that even has any value at that point.

2) Make a professional video that is meant to go viral. This short video should explain 3 things, what this technology is capable of doing, how it works and you dropping license fees after the a certain monetary goal. There's plenty of animation studios that can do this. The style should be again simple and straightforward, it's not a technical video, but a video posted on the main page so people instantly know what it's about. People are lazy and don't like reading so this video is pretty much the intro and the main reason why people should fund the goal.
Here are a few examples of sites that went viral recently:

https://drive.google.com/start#home
http://www.kony2012.com/

3) Entrust your website to a professional web company (the design can also can be improved) that can handle the loads that will be present when going viral. On the web design/layout part simplicity is key. Keep the site minimalistic, straightforward and modern. Make it follow current popular trends, "single page website" or "responsive layouts". A couple of examples:

http://www.googleventures.com/
http://www.thefontain.com/
http://designingmonsters.com/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um63OQz3bjo

4) Make sure the universities are ready with their reports when the site goes live. So you can include them or graphs from the reports.

5) Stick to the tech blog plan, even if you need to send a passive ice making cube to them! The point is going viral and sparking that wild fire.

6) In a way think about this not being about the technology at all but about a successful viral campaign. Including front page youtube of the above animation video.

7) Once this is all done you can go live and you and us can start spreading the word online and try to get as much news coverage.

mscoffman

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« Reply #40 on: May 18, 2012, 08:11:53 PM »
@Philip
 
My tendancy is that you should consider the changes your device will
bring to be a "wave" and you need to be able to surf this wave to
your ultimate success goals. This will require having the best and
brightest people in your organization to continue it on into the future.
 
Don't worry about the changes it will bring to society, as we humans
ultimately have and will continue to *greatly* benefit from these type
changes. The costs of some things *must* drop in order to create a
profitable situation and to enable further change.
 
In the free enterprise the monetary system is a data processing system
designed to follow human desire and activities to go where they lead and
to create the optimum in safety and flexibility. The monetrary system, or
cash, should never be left to or expected to lead us humans to what it or
somone else says we want! So create what you desire, make sure it is
safe for the masses and expect the monetary/businesses system track
that. Any different is simply being delusional.
 
:S:MarkSCoffman
 

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« Reply #41 on: May 19, 2012, 12:34:14 AM »


@Stefan, the quencos being made for hearing aids are just 1mm x 1mm x 50um thick, so they look like a bit of glitter.


Phil

Hi Phil,
wow such a small scale device can power a hearing aid device ?

1mm x 1mm x 50um thick delivers 1.2 Volts and how many MilliAmps ?

If that can deliver at least 100 MilliAmps that would be great !

Seems you really have found some great material mixes to do this...

It seems to be like a real Maxwell´s daemon circuit, by just ordering the fast
electrons to just one side of the material and just getting a voltage differential.

Looking forward to your release date.

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.

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« Reply #42 on: May 19, 2012, 06:02:38 AM »
Hi the broli Idea is very good.


The first thing is have the goal clear, "Get to equilibrium with nature", that is: dont use energy fuels that contaminate.

Forget donations, this is "funding new source of energy", "Funding Energy freedom", make several goals, example:
If 1 millon dollars, then we star the production of device model 0.
If 5 millon dollars, then patent 5$ per device
If 10 millon dollars, then patent 1$ per device.
If 50 millon dollars, free patent to all the world.


Is very important to make several prizes related with the funding amount, example:
If 10 dollars or more, then my name in "web page of fame"
If 100 dollars or more, then postal card with my name "I funding the new energy source certification"
If 300 dollars or more, receive test device model 0 and book about the invention.
IF 500 dollars or more, then right to test a sample device modelo 0.
If 1.000 dollars or more, then right to fly to Phillip test facility and take photos with phillip.
If 10.000 dollars or more, then lunch with Phillip.


Be ready to have a full forum, and a very loaded web page.


Dont say anything about the ultimate changes of this technology, we dont know it, just say the happy future, energy for all, creations of employment, small devices, more wireless devices, etc.


God will help you, Phillip.

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« Reply #43 on: May 19, 2012, 07:53:13 PM »
Sounds like broli has a fairly good set of ideas (for a change ....   just teasing you broli)  and my guess is the biggest resistance initially to this technology will come from the big battery companies.  Duracell is part of Procter and Gamble.  Eveready will be another that could suffer catastrophic loss once this really gets going.  Like most tech I will guess this may start small in replacing standard batteries in flashlights (this market is much larger than you might think - Candlepowerforums has over 139,000 members) and RC hobby cars, planes etc will likely jump all over having a super long lasting battery.  Then as it is proven it will expand to larger things like cars or home power.   One scenario I can imagine is having the two major battery makers in the U.S. (Duracell and Eveready) get in a bidding war for rights to produce this.  I really have no idea if that could happen but if it did it would seem it could be very lucrative for you.  I think the fact that both these companies make rechargeable batteries (hundreds of times more economical in the long run) and yet that has not killed their throw away battery market says some things will be slow to change but I can imagine them both wanting to have rights to the technology. 
   
   Blessings for all the right forces to be in place for this to move forward successfully.
   WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD IT WILL BE ....
   

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« Reply #44 on: May 20, 2012, 02:16:33 PM »
Hi to all the people who have recently posted advice and ideas, all very much appreciated.


I do not want to disregard the ideas of crowd funding, of competitive bidding wars and so much more you guys have suggested, all of which seem to me to have merit, but reflecting on such comments it came to me that the answer might be simpler and fairer.


SO here is a new idea of mine, if it is dumb please tell me as brutally as you care to (but include your reasoning)


How would it be if I published the patent and the vids and the lab reports, expert reports and anything else, plus give to engadget and gizmo a usb quenco so that everyone can see that 1mm x 1mm piece of Quenco can power an iPhone?


Then I publish a legal document drawn up by experts that essentially says any and everyone on the planet is welcome to use the tech for their own use free of charge, if however you want to use it in a product you must pay a royalty fee equal to 1% of the sale value of the product.


The 1% royalties would be paid into the quenco foundation (to be founded), a not for profit company registered in the USA whose obligations would be to create applications and designs, blueprint, CADs for free distribution to the World.


The foundation would pay me 1% of the 1% royalty fees paid into the foundation.


The foundation would be run by members selected from many countries and who would be suitably qualified (or experienced) in engineering, physics, agriculture and the humanities and other important disciplines. The organisation would be prohibited from owning or controlling any company or stock. Its sole purpose would be to create technology that is for the benefit of mankind (no weapons).




My reasoning for the above is that to make quenco quickly adopted for co2 abatement and food production and.............. is beyond my skills, and probably beyond anyone one person, however the free enterprise model sort of works, but it needs some new dynamic, maybe that change is for future science and technology to be free for all to adopt and profit from, to take as much research away from big business and secret labs as possible.