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Offline Elisha

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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2012, 05:27:24 PM »
Dear friend Philip.
My parents raised me to be an analyst of what happens in nature, to build on repeatable events, realities.
During my school life, I also realized that what the books say is not written in stone, they have errors. Which cost me more than one occasion to go bad marks against the established and what the teachers say. Although some teachers had an open mind, most were very close in the method that they had prescribed.


In my country Venezuela, a third world country, I lived among people with a lot of money (millions of dollars) and people with very little (1 dollar a day), see the wealth of some and the misery of others, made me think of way to reduce this gap, I made the observation that the rich have access to a lot of energy and the poor have little access to energy, so it occurred to me that to help the poor should look for a very cheap energy source.


Since then find ways to make more efficient energy sources and make available new sources of energy. So I loved the ideas of Phillip Hardcastle, as their thermionic devices would be the ultimate solution.


Also try to help the poor in more direct ways, giving them food, shelter, etc.. Of which had a series of bitter experiences, being a victim of theft, fraud and even blows. Hard-learned an old adage, "do not give the fish, teach to fish". The only real way to help people is through teaching them to think, as going on in Haiti or Somalia, if you give them what they need will get only more misery.


So I get to the institute ARI http://ariresearch.org/, which is already running educational institutes, which teach people to thinking and feeling, which is a total systemic change, not a mere improvement of the current system, change at the root.  When i meet to their students, I realized that actually this is the real solution to all problems of the world, here the individual learns to be like the human body cells, which work for the benefit of all the body, benefiting to themselves. While today's society teaches how to take advantage the most of the others for your own benefit, to be a super selfish, egoistic.

Friend Phillip, Quenco is a body and Ari Institute is the soul, and a pure body needs a pure soul.


So after some thought, the following is proposed, using the ideas of Broli and Philip.

Premises:
- Quenco is cheap to produce, $ 10 and $ 100 10W 1kW (that's cheap, very cheap).
- Quenco requires little investment, $ 500,000 per factory.
- Phiilip has patents.
- There are Quenco devices of 1mmx1mm and Quenco 1cmx1cm actually running.
 
Proposal:
- A Global Foundation with global presence to make Quenco and use the proceeds to fund the educational system change worldwide, free and quality education for all mankind, Philip receives only 0.1% of the overall profit on this foundation.
- Let people and enterprises do the devices, USB Charger, hearing battery, etc.
- The foundation produces and sells Quenco at Cost + 20%.
- Building a factory in every region of the world, 1 - USA East, 2 - USA West, 3 - Western Europe, 4 - Eastern Europe, 5 - China, 6 - Japan, 7 - Australia, 8 - Israel, 9 - South Africa, 10 - Venezuela, 11 - Mexico. 12 - Central, 13 - Brazil, etc.. Reaching 20 Quenco factories worldwide.


- Crowdsoursing, the 10 million dollars for the 20 factories.
With the following awards for participation:
If 10 dollars or more, Then my name in "web page of fame"
If 100 dollars or more, Then Postal certificate with my name "I Funding the new energy device Quenco" and participation in R & D forum of Quenco.
If 300 dollars or more, Receive Quenco model 5V 10W 1mm x 1mm.
If 1,000 dollars or more, Receive Quenco model 24V 1KW 1cm x 1cm.
If 20,000 dollars or more, Then right to know and lunch with Phillip.
 
You will need:
- A group of people who will help implement this plan.
- Make a professional video That Is Meant to go viral. This short video Should Explain 3 things, What This technology is capable of doing, how it works, let people dream, put this video in youtube and front page.
- Entrust your website to a professional web company (the design can be improved Also can) That can handle the loads will be present That when to going viral.
- Get ready to send this fame from you to your soul, change the system of education at all the world, make the people happy.
 
Piracy protections:
- Will sell at low cost, so the competition will have to think before imitate.
- Your noble purpose, money to change the educational system, will give you the support of the world population.
- Crowdsourcing to help you defend it.
- International law will support you, because you have the patents.

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« Reply #60 on: May 22, 2012, 05:27:24 PM »

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« Reply #61 on: May 22, 2012, 07:38:21 PM »
You cannot decide who get's rich and who stay's poor.
It is in the decision making of the people themselves.
Your plan will fail.


Yes, that's right.


The solution is teach the people to think.  That is the real goal of this plan, the soul of this energy device.

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« Reply #62 on: May 22, 2012, 07:41:15 PM »
@microcontroller:
how many companies -with technical and financial success- can you recognize in the peswiki-page ?
This is real economy, a 500 german midle/great companies R&D study ( Kienbaum, Manager Magazin) from the eightees :

                                from           1176 ideas
                                became       376  board-projects
    entered the market                176  products
became a financial success       11 products = ideas

Real success is very rare.

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« Reply #63 on: May 22, 2012, 08:13:23 PM »
Part of success always depends on how good the idea is and how universally applicable it is.  I think Quenco is a great idea that can be applied in so many different things that it will be highly successful if Philip can navigate the path to getting it out to the world.   I think he is well on his way.

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« Reply #64 on: May 22, 2012, 08:46:57 PM »
To butt in... imo the biggest advantage of quenco over say the coming LENR/cold fusion wave or other promising emerging tech is:
simplicity, size (huge power density apparently) and cost (you can apperently print them out like stamps) these factors allow quentron to pretty much saturate the world with them from cell phones to personal planes. The thing is so small that a "grid" or "central source" of energy would be obsolete even if the central was in your own basement. Every device would have one built in, the potential is limitless.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2012, 12:00:21 AM by broli »

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« Reply #65 on: May 22, 2012, 09:36:44 PM »

Yes, that's right.


The solution is teach the people to think.  That is the real goal of this plan, the soul of this energy device.

Yes...and by the way, to think with their brains and not with their portfolios. :-)

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« Reply #66 on: May 22, 2012, 09:53:25 PM »
To but in... imo the biggest advantage of quenco over say the coming LENR/cold fusion wave or other promising emerging tech is:
simplicity, size (huge power density apparently) and cost (you can apperently print them out like stamps) these factors allow quenco to pretty much saturate the world with them from cell phones to personal planes. The thing is so small that a "grid" or "central source" of energy would be obsolete even if the central was in your own basement. Every device would have one built in the potential is limitless.

Hold on a minute Broli... you've gone a little bit too far.
 
A Maxwell's Demon is a good source of energy, but only if you've got lots of
"heat to spare". Here is the problem; If your device "destroys heat" to make
energy, you need to make sure that you didn't pay exorbitant costs to make
that heat in the first place. Now any energetic process like a living being
will be producing a certain amount of excess energy - but that amount is not
so large. Also, devices like computers can use that capability because they created
heat in the first place to do computations and you are reusing a certain amount.
Good.
 
But you can see where there is a problem. In a cold climate like Alsaka there may
not be enough excess heat in the first place. In a cold basement, or cold closet
or cold garage where you have to actually pay to produce that heat in the first place
with a furnace or on the roadway with a large numbers of moving vehicles all
trying to access ambient temperature air. In fact, a Maxwell's Demon will actually
differentially benefit people living in warm climates, manufacturing will best be done
on the equator! While we living in cold climates are going to just need to make do. Heat pumps can help, making solar collectors out of ordinary stuff, but to really work Maxwell's demons will need to be paired with specific size energy producers or consumers. So in fact
I would expect Philip's devices to work best when joined to LENR heat producer rather
then substituted for it. That way one has real energy. This Maxwell demon stuff has
unintented consequences such as needing a person to have to decide whether energy generated is going to be transmitted away or is locally converted to heat. We currently
don't have to consider these facts when we use energy. The Utility company always
transmits its billable energy away from it. We can decide to do computations or power an
amature radio transmitter with it without any use penlty. That why I now favor led lights
for dummy loads for overunity experiments as they transmit their energy away from the
device under test rather then dissipate it as heat locally.
 
:S:MarkSCoffman
 

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Offline broli

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« Reply #67 on: May 22, 2012, 11:01:43 PM »
mscoffman, this is actually a good subject for a fear mongering smear campaign, not that I'm associating you with one but this discussion will indeed be brought up by people who have an interest in it not succeeding.

My point of view of it? First of all, it's COMPLETELY baseless. Let us be ignorant and assume that yes ambient heat is "destroyed" but do you know how much energy the earth and the atmosphere collect on one single day? I'm sure if you did you wouldn't be so concerned. And apparently it's okay to promote solar energy like crazy, which would also "destroy" heat by that same logic, but this not?

Second of all, did you know that EVERY electric device that has resistive elements is a joule heater, ie produces heat as current goes by. Yes the average kinetic energy (ie temperature) of the nearby air molecules gets reduced but this energy is regained when your device is emitting infrared as joule heating. If I use a quenco powered heater that heats my room by removing it from the outside eventually, depending on insulation primarily, that heat will diffuse back into the atmosphere. You're not destroying anything! In the heater case you're just filtering the colder air molecules out of your room, and in the electric devices case you are remitting the energy as infrared. This is why a CPU can run on its own heat, the actual information processing itself doesn't use up energy but pushing around electrons creates heat.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2012, 12:02:17 AM by broli »

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« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2012, 08:12:13 PM »
I am myself wondering about the internal process of the quenco chip/film because 10sqcmx10sqcm comparing with an usual thermionic converter with 75% heat/electric conversion efficiency and 2000W/sqm sunenergy means 67x sun concentrating !
It is not the Wp/sqcm ( comparing with the Fellows Research group Mems-TAR  www.resonant-energy.com  ),it is the question about the heat/energy source which will deliver the electric output energy about I am me wondering !

Sincerely
                 CdL

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« Reply #69 on: May 24, 2012, 02:33:10 PM »
This is a difficult concept to get ones head around, because it sounds too good to be true. If it does prove to be true, and makes it to market, its impact on society is probably beyond our ability to imagine it. It will change the whole way that we think about electricity. The power grid will become obsolete in a very short time , as all domestic appliances will come with their own power supply. The same with light fittings. We have all heard the expression that half a loaf is better than no bread. Imagine the impact in African villages of cheap everlasting LED lighting, and water/irrigation pumps that need no fuel. Battery chargers will be relegated to museums.
       The electric car without charging will help tremendously, but will not solve congestion. So a better early application will be electric bicycles, more affordable, and more eco friendly.

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« Reply #70 on: May 25, 2012, 04:39:55 PM »
I can also accept the production price estimation :

solar/thermionic cell
2000Wp clear sky daylight energy max./sqm 
 5% solar foil and 10% wafer cell solar light to electricity conversion
= 100Wp-foil and 200Wp wafer cell electric;
each Wp production price  foil:0,5 US$ and wafer cell: 1,0 US$
 sqm-foil price: 100US$ and sqm-wafer cell: 200 US$

the quenco 1KW-chip/foil has the dimensions 10cmx10cm =100sqcm   = 1/100sqm       
     
= for this dimension the solar foil price is 1 US$ and solar wafer cell price is 2 US$ !           
   but Mr. Hardcastle estimate 100 US$ production  costs for the quenco foil/chip !


Sincerely
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p.s.: with cooling the heat to elctric conversion max. of the thermionic converter can reach 10W/sqcm = 100KW/sqm
         but with external heat source

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« Reply #71 on: May 25, 2012, 07:34:07 PM »
Dreaming About LENR and Quenco, Working together, Because They Are complementary technologies.
Where do cold or need more heat than it can remove from the atmosphere, launch a LENR and ready, we will have all the energy we need.

LENR and Quenco are so disruptive, and LENR truly need QUENCO, that we need to talk about priorities.

First, it should be very clear several realities:
- The global economic system is in sharp implosion: Due to their mathematical basis, that capital plus interest can not be paid from the capital but will need to bring money from the future , so there is a debt so huge, and only bring money for the future work if the economic activity expands ever faster, and that is not possible in an integral world.
- Unemployment will continue to grow every day more worldwide.
- Most of the jobs are not productive but administrative. productive jobs are those that are related to something that we directly consume or use, this jobs are few.
- The global production system is focused on making products that are quickly discarded, to buy another, so-called planned obsolescence.
- We are destroying the planet's resources.
- We are destroying the planet spices.
- We are leaving a broken world to future generations.

Therefore, LENR and technologies necessary to Quenco are what every thinking human beings need.

- Learning to think and dont let others make our decisions and tell us to do. Learning that the good of society is the good of the individual.
- Work only few hours a day, to maintain the general infrastructure of the city, country, etc., to keep eating, dressing, driving, etc..
- Work freely each in what everyone seems best for the benefit of humanity and nature.
 
The demand for LENR and Quenco be so great that any network worldwide factories may give you supply, so we have to give priority to certain sectors of production.

Priority 1:
- Electricity in homes, so the unemployed will have less pressure on the monthly payment of electric service and will be able from their ingenuity to develop products for their family income.
- Clean water, either by air extraction or purification of existing contaminated sources.
- Electric Bicycles in electric bicycle community would give a tremendous boost as the biggest cost is the battery.
 
Priority 2:
- The electric car, eliminating battery bank, would lower the price of electric cars $ 50,000 to $ 15,000 today.
- Elimination of electric plug in home devices, wireless computer, wireless LED bulbs, cordless vacuum cleaner, Electric cooker Induction cordless wireless stereo, washing machine wireless, wireless refrigerator, etc..
 
Priority 3:
- Cordless Phones.
- Aircraft of fuel.
 
If I was Phillip Hardcastle, I will:
1 - Half of the Quenco profits to invest in the proper education, worldwide.
2 - Buy  http://www.qmpower.com/, which is highly efficient electric motors, the best technology of the moment.
3 - Buy http://www.teslamotors.com/, which has a good design.
4 - design and manufacture worldwide via Open Source, all kinds of long-life devices, from light bulbs to cars, to last materials, repairable, upgradeable and recyclable. The devices would call timeless.
 Impact on society:

- The politicians would lose their importance of today.
- The boundaries would be more free.
- The food would be cheaper.
- Devices would be more expensive but would last a lot.
- The transport would be cheaper.
- There would be more automation.
- Would have over time to be really where we like, with friends, family, etc.
- Would have more groups of music, dance, theater, exercise, field trips, agriculture, etc..
- We would have a world in harmony with nature, clean and full of life.


Recomend to read http://www.kabbalahbooks.info/The-Psychology-of-the-Integral-Society-p/psychology-of-integral-society.htm to understand more this new society.


Also from manufacture point of view http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/cmp/eetimes052112/?cid=NL_UBM+Electronics#/46  there is and excellent article of Electronic Engineering Times Magazine.  Why China?


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« Reply #72 on: May 26, 2012, 01:21:04 AM »


The only proof needed to start this revolution is the handout of a dozen 1mm x 1mm chips.


If the admin / owner of this site (Harti I assume) wishes to contact me I will arrange to send a free quenco chip to you.


Thanks for now

Dear Philip,

I would be really glad if you would send me such a 1 mm x 1mm sample,
my address is on the about us page here:

http://www.overunity.com/5552/impressum-about-us/

But I still can hardly imagine, how such a small device can at least deliver more than
a few milliwatts, but you claim Watts ?

Well, if you really can crank out so much current from such a tiny chip it is
also pretty dangerous to handle as a tiny shortcircuit at the edges could already start a fire !

And surely the chip would go so cold, that it will freeze and might break apart,
if it is based on ceramics or something like that,
when it gets too cold too fast, that means it is based on material that does not like to get cold too fast
or will have an unequal temperature difference along its surface...
then it might end in a structural failure and break apart.

Have you already tested your material enough about this ?

So it should be handled with care, as some loose wires touching its surface could start a fire and shatter the chip
by cooling it too fast during a shortcircuit ?


Regards, Stefan.


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« Reply #73 on: May 26, 2012, 01:56:56 PM »
@Harti. I really hope that you do get a sample of this. If you do, I hardly need to remind you of the responsibility that goes with it. You will be representing all the people who have supported this forum over the years. You have a responsibility to the inventor. Indeed you have a responsibility to all the people of Planet Earth. You must work with care , and publish a fair and unbiased test.
        I am sure I speak for everyone when I say that you are a good choice as our representative, and we have 100% faith in your Technical ability, and honesty.


 Maybe this guy should apply for the Overunity Prize?

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« Reply #74 on: May 26, 2012, 05:07:31 PM »
Maybe this guy should apply for the Overunity Prize?

No, there's no sound reason why he should.

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