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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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« on: April 04, 2012, 11:00:30 AM »

 :) ;) :D ;D >:( :( :o 8) ??? ::) :P :-[ :-X :-\ :-* :'( ;D

For those interested, following my success in isothermal heat to power conversion at 500C (the sebithenco device) I have now progressed to a solid state technology just a few nm thick and 1,000,000,000x more powerful, and at room temperature to boot.


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« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 10:56:17 PM »
Previously we had expected to make a public announcement in early May 2012, however we have revised our plans and now have scheduled to make available a full press release on June 11 (2012), to the extent that we can, without harming IP rights, we will also publish certificates, lab reports and video of operating devices. Obviously until patents are issued we are restricted on what we can divulge re the detail of the device but we expect full details to be available before the launch of the eternal battery product (once the battery is available we see that keeping secrets will be futile as the device can be STM probed).


A few people have contacted me re distribution of the 1.2V eternal hearing aid battery product we will be releasing in the 2nd half of 2012, we advise that at this stage we have no plans to sell the batteries other than via our own e-commerce site, however for larger power units (not planned for commercial release before 2013) we will be interested to hear from interested parties following the press release in June.

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« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2012, 04:36:05 AM »
I have received a few questions as to why hearing aid batteries, why not something bigger?


The answer is that the simplest first product to make is a quenco with virtually no complexity and immediately usable, with about 50million hearing aids being used in the World there is clearly a need for an eternal cell, the cost of people buying the disposable batteries comes to far more than $100 a year if the aid is used frequently / continuously, so $100 for an eternal battery is economical and practical (no more having the aid stop working for a flat battery).


If we assume that 1 in 10 decide to use a quenco cell then that is $500 million of sales which can then be pumped back in to more powerful products. Additional sales of cells are also anticipated simply as you could buy them for any application you want, and it may be that sales of cells for alternate use might exceed hearing aid use 10:1. Overall as a simple means into the market and a demonstration device a hearing aid battery is a reasonable choice.


Also I do not plan to personally make quenco much beyond the first year, I envisage the advancement of the fundamental technology to be done by many organisations (or individuals), so I do not wish to set up a complex production facility, it would be fun to do many things but it would be silly to even try to do it all myself.


So for those that think I should make a unit to power a house I think they need to understand that large scale quenco devices will need highly specialised production equipment known as roll to roll ALD, furthermore a lot of engineering is required to go from an enabling technology to commercial product and that necessarily involves teams of people and man years of work.

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« Reply #3 on: April 07, 2012, 09:09:54 AM »
Reminds me of this article:

http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2012/mar/08/graphene-in-new-battery-breakthrough

And as you say once your product hits the market it won't take long before it's reversed engineered and sold probably MUCH cheaper especially in China where IP is nearly non existent so I see why you're asking price for a single cell is so high, cash in while the exclusivity lasts eey.
Well I wish you luck and I hope we'll be seeing these cells in all our devices soon.


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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 05:17:33 PM »
Thanks Broli,


I agree that the price will plummet (whether from pirating or scale) and the power output will increase dramatically in year 2, that is what I wish for. I can only hope that China will adopt quenco for utility scale power generation as soon a possible, even if I get no monetary return. We need to have significant reduction in coal power generation in China and other countries if we are going to have any chance of avoiding cataclysmic global warming.


Being 100% genuine about all this, the money from the eternal cells will simply be insurance so that if governments fail to engage with me for the common good then I can make sure that quenco can be developed for the people, ie I can use the money from battery sales to set up large scale production to sell as cheaply as possible large quenco for home power and such.


What would be ideal is for me to step aside asap and let those capable of doing production on a war time scale take it over, even if I get only 0.01% of what the IP is worth, after all how much money can a rational person want for their own personal use? With the launch in June and all the certificates from govt recognized bodies attached, I hope that I can sit down with scientific and government bodies / organisations with a view to mass production in all countries as an urgent agenda.


I have been asked by email a few times now to give details re the quenco but I will not do so until after all the full patents are filed, all the lab work is finished and written up, and certainly not prior to the launch in June, what I am willing to divulge is that quenco is simple and that almost any company of modest size could tool up to make it. I estimate in mass production quenco film (using roll to roll ALD) will be less than a cent per Watt, and I hope we can drive it down to 0.1c /W.

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« Reply #4 on: April 08, 2012, 05:17:33 PM »
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Offline e2matrix

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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2012, 05:47:32 PM »
Best of luck with this.  It sounds like a great solution.  Just make sure you have a backup to a backup plan to make sure your info is not lost since any announcement that can have major economic impact on big companies has the potential to garner attention of the dark forces.

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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2012, 09:39:13 AM »
Hi e2,


Thanks for the good luck wish.


I do not personally buy into the oft rumoured dark forces but as it happens I have taken quite a few precautions to cover the possibility of being run over by a bus. There are no less than 6 scientists, 2 engineers, and 3 major companies in possession of technical documents relating to the quenco, There are also a few close friends that hold a number of signed and dated documents for quenco as IP protection. All these individuals, companies and universities are bound by commercial in confidence and NDA agreements, or by trust, but if I did drop dead it would only be a matter of weeks before there would be some reaction so there is zero chance of the info being lost.


****Just in case there really really really are dark forces reading this then they should consider that bumping me off will not suppress quenco, it might even make some sceptics pay more attention and thus accelerate the process***


If the dark forces want to target someone please contact me through the quentron website contact page and I can provide the names of some particular obnoxious and stupid sceptics who post on the moletrap, hardly three brain cell between the lot of them.

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Offline Philip Hardcastle

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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2012, 01:19:20 AM »
You'll laugh at this.


Following my joke above about the dark forces, the loud mouth obnoxious sceptics banned me! They say they felt threatened, funny as any time any member of this forum or other mentions dark forces the moletrap morons say it is evidence of madness and paranoia, so it seems that left to fester on their own they have inbred into their own form of fetid madness.


The only reason I mention sceptics is because in my view there are useful sceptics, those that challenge ideas and debate topics, and then there are those old men that never did anything useful in their life who want to knock and put down everyone else who tries. I have proved a device and had that proof independently replicated but people like them (the sceptics that do not care to think or listen) do not even falter in their bitter name calling. It matters not of course as I will show on June 11 but I just want to share my experience to encourage all inventors not to let idiots get under your skin or halt your work. We all need to work together to save our planet from global warming and I hope members of Overunity will take my device and not only replicate it but accelerate the use, and breadth of use of it.


I do however apologize to anyone that took my suggestion for dark forces to contact me seriously, I do not have any malice to anyone, even those that call me horrid names, whatever their motivation. Life really is too short to let negative and bitter people spoil it.

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« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2012, 01:42:50 AM »
Sounds exciting, but your version that is 1,000,000 x better, what is the measured energy, or is it calculated?

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« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2012, 07:38:57 AM »
@freeestenergie


Your first post and you choose only me, it makes me think you are a moletrap member just posting here out of malice?


In any case your question is wrong, loaded and silly.


Firstly if you read the first post here (above) it says 1,000,000,000 not 1,000,000, why I stated the larger number will make sense when you read on, however the actual improvement over sebithenco and the proof of concept tests remain confidential for an exact calculation might provide information to allow reverse engineering.


Secondly Quenco does not create energy, it converts energy. The energy it converts is the heat it is supplied and more specifically it extracts kinetic energy from hot tail energy electrons converting that energy into an electrical potential. IE If you only supply a Joule of heat you can only extract a Watt, at least at a point of equilibrium. So the device does not create energy and I have never claimed that it did.


Third it is almost impossible to answer even if I was prepared to ignore the Second point, the website already explains that the device is limited by the ability to get heat into it, so the question would need to very much more detailed than you have posed but in any case you can do the math yourself on 11 June 2012.


Fourth if you read above you will see that I am not releasing any technical data until after all IP protection, lab notes and such are prepared for publication, signed, witnessed and distributed to important parties.

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Offline markdansie

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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2012, 08:23:40 AM »
The graphene battery article you refer to is interesting. Others have had trouble replicating it. However it lends itself to solid state production using other materials that also the necessary  ion collisions with the Graphene.
Philip's device I suspect would improve with surface area hence moving to thin film (ALD) techniques. Using the correct architecture you can put  a house block in surface area in a cm cube. It is also possible to print down to 20 nanometres thick film using litho techniques.
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2012, 10:13:30 AM »

Heat into electrcity-parametric oscillator. Is it this technology?


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« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2012, 10:25:45 AM »
@freeestenergie


Your first post and you choose only me, it makes me think you are a moletrap member just posting here out of malice?



I read the moletrap mostly - not everyone who posts is made welcome  :( - and follow here from there. I am not "black ops" or anything, and not malicious (I think). 1,000,000,000 is a very large number, so it seems unlikely as a jump, so I've asked, nothing more, it doesn't seem silly to me.

I don't think I will trust myself to calculate so I'll just wait but things usually take longer than we plan.

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« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2012, 10:26:42 AM »
@Mark, Hi, to avoid confusion on this thread it was Broli that referred to the graphene article, quenco has absolutely nothing to do with that reported device. Also Quenco is much thinner than 20nm and fabrication relies on Atomic Layer Deposition fabrication and so the used units are Angstroms (1E-10).


I can say (without giving away any trade secrets) that for a 1.5v quenco chip of say 20um thickness the vast majority of that thickness is the end contact substrate, in other words we could supply them (1.5v quenco) at less than 20nm thickness, but how would you handle them?




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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2012, 10:52:12 AM »
@Qwert,


That was a very interesting pdf.


Clearly however we crossed posts and I guess it is obvious that quenco is not like that.


@Freeestenergie,


Apologies to you for falsely accusing you.


I really will not discuss anything in enough detail here to satisfy your curiosity, but let me meet you mid way and say that if you use the classical Quantum Tunneling equations you will see that as the thickness of a barrier (insulator) decreases the electron tunneling probability increases "exponentially".


Folks, I will not respond to anymore questions here, if you have some specific query that you want answered you can post it on my contact page and I will respond if I can, but probably not until after 11 June.


Thanks

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