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Re: LENR Roundup
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2015, 02:42:39 AM »
Sparks:'I have no idea as to how a light water reactor could possibly work as there isn't any neutron fuel to speak of.'

Its what's in the lightwater that may fuse eg lithium salts.I agree that thers no nuclear fusion going on with lightwater(h2) itself but ther definitely seems to be some types fission going on,not with the h2 but of matter that it happens to contact with eg catalyst matter.the things that makeup the hysteresis loop.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2015, 10:24:52 AM by profitis »

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« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2015, 06:10:14 PM »
One word I have not heard in these effects but given the physical builds of these LENR devices, one word comes to mind....... cavitation. Where heat is generated inside a confined space, you may expect cavitation. We already have great videos on youtube showing cavitation wheels quickly producing hot water.

Given the ceramic crucibles are porous and could also be leaching some elements, a ceramic sample should be crushed to a powder form and analyzed via atomic adsorption to identify all the elements present. I have not seen that.

What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM) when the TM effect should not even be important at this stage since the energy side is much more crucial to our present motivations. Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.

There may be a relationship between the elements added inside the chamber (or not) and the porous action of the ceramic where the elements could be increasing the available friction threshold and the porous ceramic provides a tremendous increase in exposed surface area that could equal several football fields that would be dissipating the heat and thus providing an OU level event.

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Re: LENR Roundup
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2015, 07:20:02 PM »
Wattsup
 These ceramics apparently form/grow a very tight crystaline seal during cure,
this is what caused the recent Martin Fleischmann memorial project to end with a bang.
 The Ceramic seal did yield ..,however you raise a good point ,there are other things which can happen here when we bring such stress to the recipe ,adding RF or Magnetic fields Or spin etc etc.. could also be an interesting path ?

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« Reply #18 on: March 15, 2015, 05:59:17 AM »
Well, a couple of problems that you have there is that you are relying on the Bohr model for the idea of electrons as satellites of the nucleus, and electrons that have eating disorders.


     Not really.  I'm relying on the relativistic gain in mass of particles.  The charge staying the same but the bound electron mass increasing.  I'm also relying on a proton as being the ground state as far as nuclear decay goes.  Last I heard the proton isn't expected to decay for 10 to the 23 years whereas neutrons go to hell in 15 minutes.  There is an optimum ratio of protons to neutrons in a stable isotope.   So if you have a stable isotope and screw with this proton neutron ratio why would you not expect a little nuclear reaction?   A stable isotope has gotten pretty use to having a proton a proton and the strong force has packed it like it wants it.   Now with loss of electrostatic repulsion of the proton you have to expect alot of protons inside the "chiral bag" to move about.   Possibly pushing a neutron or two out the bag to decay.  I believe that is why in these lenr experiments you need a high current density.  A high current density increases the chances of bumping electrons into the core.  I'm not saying that all neutrons are protons that capture an electron but there must be a probability of an electron with the right mass charge ratio to occupy the same space at the same time to cancel the proton charge and render that portion of the nucleus electrically and massively neutron like.
 





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Re: LENR Roundup
« Reply #19 on: March 15, 2015, 06:17:48 AM »
One word I have not heard in these effects but given the physical builds of these LENR devices, one word comes to mind....... cavitation. Where heat is generated inside a confined space, you may expect cavitation. We already have great videos on youtube showing cavitation wheels quickly producing hot water.

Given the ceramic crucibles are porous and could also be leaching some elements, a ceramic sample should be crushed to a powder form and analyzed via atomic adsorption to identify all the elements present. I have not seen that.

What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM) when the TM effect should not even be important at this stage since the energy side is much more crucial to our present motivations. Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.

There may be a relationship between the elements added inside the chamber (or not) and the porous action of the ceramic where the elements could be increasing the available friction threshold and the porous ceramic provides a tremendous increase in exposed surface area that could equal several football fields that would be dissipating the heat and thus providing an OU level event.

wattsup


  Hey wattsup :)


     Some of the most energetic processes in the Universe are when stars collapse.   If you got the right stuff on the interface of the bubble you can expect a little electron accelerations and collision.  I think one outfit was loading the palladium lattice using ultrasonics.   Lot of these guys have tritium showing up in their experiments and helium4 so they probably have fusion events going on but so don't the tokamaks. 

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« Reply #20 on: March 15, 2015, 09:22:29 AM »
Wattsup:'Once you have a device that can go OU, you still have the rest of eternity to figure out any transmutation, real or not right now does not matter.'

True.the negentropy of the hysteresisloop itself is a marvel there is no need for transmutation.infact,the hysteresisloop can be made to do actual work for very long times if kept under the 'profitis point' ie.under the point of stress where nuclear disintergration begins to happen.when nuclear disintergration into the lower energy states actually happens it changes the surface properties of the material components and will bring about both physical and nuclear wear and tear.It was rossi who used a totally stable enriched nickel isotope in one of his earlier designs to avoid this wear and tear and keep the loop going for aslong as possible at maximum gains.nickel 62 is totaly stable and will not undergo further collapse ( other elements in contact with it may do so if they're not in their lowest states within the loop)

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« Reply #21 on: March 15, 2015, 10:46:58 AM »
Wattsup:'What I am afraid of is this effect will be sidetracked with the discussions of transmutations (TM)'

Very difficult to predict what transmutations will happen anyways unless via trial and error.every element will have its own 'profitis point' in a particular hysteresis loop.the same element's 'profitis point' may even differ from loop to loop.

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« Reply #22 on: March 15, 2015, 07:24:51 PM »
     I'm just thinking that alot of cold-fusion products are because a pseudo neutron or mini atom type deal is presented to a nucleus or forms in a nucleus.   This causes instabilities inside the nucleus which can promote the pseudo neutron to a real neutron.  The energy needed coming from the strong force rearranging the nucleus.


http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=488
http://www.scientificethics.org/NeutronSynthesisNCA-I.pdf

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« Reply #23 on: March 17, 2015, 03:54:32 PM »
From ecatworld:

'Ian Walker
Hi all
One obvious thing people seem to be missing, is that LENR is a Low Energy Nuclear Reaction. Neutrons produced are not going to be the fast moving high energy Neutrons of Hot Fusion or Fission.
Any Neutrons produced in LENR are far more likely to be absorbed in the matter they are being released in and produce isotopic changes. Or indeed decay before exiting the reactor, any Beta so produced will absorbed in the mass of the fuel itself and produce anomalous heat. It certainly would not have enough energy to escape the reactor.
MFMP and others have reported Gamma bursts at the start of some of reactions, that then disappears. It almost seems analogous to a car backfiring before running steadily.
Kind Regards walker'

This is because of the negentropy of the loop.the negentropy demands to raise the loops energy and absorbs all or most of atomic ejection particle/wave energies before they are even formed.this results in endothermic collapse of atomic matter for already stable elements(high 'profitis points'). elements which are already unstable(low 'profitis points') may shoot higher-energy particles out of the loop and go exothermic

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« Reply #24 on: August 14, 2017, 07:22:56 AM »
"When a nuclear event occurs within the
province of the bose condinsate... a
condinsate that has accumulated the
required combined excitation energy
shared among the members of its aggregate
members, the weak force no longer
functions as a separate force. In this
condition, the excitation produced
by the nuclear reaction is instantaneously
relaxed into a stable
configuration."

Here's the clasper or pincher-effect that I predicted long ago in my language.the "profitis points"

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« Reply #25 on: August 14, 2017, 07:54:27 AM »
"In the presence of extra-dimensions, every
particle’s wave-function has
higher harmonics because the extra-
dimensions have to close up, in the
simplest case like circles. The particle’s
wave-functions have to fit into
the extra dimensions, meaning their wave-
length must be an integer fraction
of the radius."

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« Reply #26 on: August 24, 2017, 09:54:00 AM »
    ................
.... . . . . . . . .....>Heater
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 Nickel powder + dil Cu2+ + dil Pd2+ + dil H+ + testor ion concentrate( Li,Rb, etc).no sulphates may be used


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« Reply #27 on: August 24, 2017, 11:26:20 AM »
Let's take a closer look above.a sudden rise in temp may create a shock-front here: Ni + 2H+= Ni2+ + H2 + more energy.more energy + 2Ni + Cu2+ + Pd2+ = Ni2+ Cu/Pd + more energy.the Cu2+/Pd2+ acting as catalytic-cocatalysts

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Re: LENR Roundup
« Reply #28 on: August 24, 2017, 02:47:36 PM »
Zn + dil Ag+ aq + dil Pd2+ aq + heat


Watch for sudden overheating

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« Reply #29 on: August 24, 2017, 02:47:51 PM »
Zn + dil Ag+ aq + dil Pd2+ aq + heat


Watch for sudden overheating

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