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Offline iacob alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2008, 05:04:21 AM »

     Hi!

A Happy New Year  2008!

I am sorry that it is out of my possibilities,favorable chances to develop my designs into reality...due to the fact  of  the forseeable(in my opinion...) dimensions (I am thinking of Aldo Costa,this brave old man) of some pendular arrangements.
But,reasonimg about simplicity,maybe next year,who knows?

  By 2007!   All the Bests 2008!  / Alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2008, 07:28:31 AM »

     Hi!

A Happy New Year  2008!

I am sorry that it is out of my possibilities,favorable chances to develop my designs into reality...due to the fact  of  the forseeable(in my opinion...) dimensions (I am thinking of Aldo Costa,this brave old man) of some pendular arrangements.
But,reasonimg about simplicity,maybe next year,who knows?

  By 2007!   All the Bests 2008!  / Alex
Hi Alex
Same to you and in adition lots of luck
Same wishes to you.

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #32 on: July 17, 2009, 05:12:01 PM »

   ...at:   www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text028.JPG

      To play this game,you need:

        -a rotary frame (your bike wheel...)

        -two masses (look into your garage...)

        -a lucky mind "sparking" (as when you play lottery...)

      I wish you success!

                                              Alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #33 on: September 30, 2009, 11:10:58 PM »

    ...as you can see at:   www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text028.JPG   if validated,can use as a VAP(variable arm procedure) ,the most popular and simple suggestion,that of   www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8dM2wQB4k   .

      If  you  have a bar with a hinged end (the simplified equivalent of M1/stabile and M2/mobile),you can test the possible reality of this mental image...

        All the best! / Alex


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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #34 on: October 15, 2009, 09:12:25 PM »

    ....has as a central idea,the suggestion that "the wheel" must " flow" :"the wheel" must be (represent),in the same time a "flow/fall".
       We have so many wheels...but where is the flow/fall ?!

            All the best! / Alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2009, 08:51:51 PM »

   ...has the same basic image,as a water-wheel immersed into a flow,on the riverside.
      We have three main abstract spare parts :a fulcrum/support(riverside),a water wheel and separately,a visible flow(river).

      Here,our problem is to build a water-wheel ,and to fix it on the riverside.

      Gravity has two aspects:
         -stability/statics/object's fixing
         -unstability/dynamics/object's fall("flow")

      We are interested about the dynamic aspect of gravity...

      If we apply the basic image up-here,we have two question-marks ,regarding a possible "gravity wheel"(the fulcrum is out of question...):
         -to determine,release a fall/flow
         -to imagine a self-running "wheel"

      This time,it seems that we have two main abstract spare parts,only:the fulcrum and the "flowing  wheel"...
 
              All the best! / Alex
         

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2009, 10:25:33 PM »
When trying to utilize 'flow' to a gravity wheel we need to introduce an ambient energy potential such as thermal expansion, heat seems to be the mover in such kinetic gravity wheels because we can reverse the weight ratios on the wheel.

examples of the Mintos wheel with liquid Hexane, heat and gravity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fUlKBH1sY8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bs_OtCsDJoY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZ-zeRCUicw

there are better liquids that can be used to increase efficiency and better remodeling of the Mintos that would also work out a lot of bugs.

mythbusters played around with mintos wheel and they didn't quite get it right and failed to demonstrate the proper expansion characteristics

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #37 on: October 16, 2009, 10:52:27 PM »
Writing a PM to a fellow user just now, I am re-living the hunch I've had before.
If an object has speed, you should not waste is, but turn into height in the most efficient manner.

Wheels roll nicely, and offer smooth direction changes, but circular tracks waste time, and time is power, right?
A quick calc seems to tell me that a 90 degree pendulum swing with L=5m, (g supposed as 10m/s/s), takes 1.11s. Up, and the same down. At any angle actually, it's it's height and time I'm after.
If at the bottom of the cycle, in stead of going along the wheel/pendulum, our weight hits a perfectly elastical bump, it can reach the same height in 1.0s. An efficient inside track or such a bump seems like a more efficient way to travel on the upswing, as it can sooner provide gravity energy to the system again. Being there a fraction of a second quicker, also seems to imply that overbalance can be achieved.

My other idea is to try and tap into gravity in small height increments, adding velocity each time, and then turning it all being into height in one go.
From standstill gliding 5m down > 10m/s horizontal
Another 5m freefall down > 20m/s. This might be a challenge to acutally convert and harness.
20m/s horizontal offers 20m vertical when converted in once. Right?

If there is no OU in one of these approaches, I don't see where it would be, what gravity is concerned. All things with leverage have been tried. I sense it's in velocity/time/height, exploiting free fall's 7 mile boots.

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #38 on: October 17, 2009, 08:31:28 PM »

     Hi Onthecuttingedge!

  When I am using the "flow" word,I have not in mind an additional flowing liquid ,as in Mintos-type wheels.
  For me , flow~fall,so instead a liquid flow,we can imagine a solid state "flow".
  The flow term,is used as a metaphor,a figure of speech in which term is transferred to something it does not literally apply to.

  This is why,I said the the "wheel must flow",as a single spare part...if you like,the fall/flow is this time inside,not outside as in a fluidic wheel.

           All the best! / Alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2009, 08:43:27 PM »

    ....can be a "relative" of a wave power station,on the beach,in all his amazing simplicity:

             - a wave capture chamber
             -an oscillating water column

       All that we need is a"design translation"....capture "chamber" and oscillating "column" as a single spare part.

            Best wishes! / Alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #40 on: October 22, 2009, 08:37:02 PM »

   .....has,as a main "actor" (symbol),a full up-down pendular fall in gravity.

        The down-stroke of a pendulum in gravity,has some similarities with the incoming tidal waves...in a certain manner,can be considered a real gravity wave.

        The term "wheel" is a vague,not clearly word :for a fish (body-tail),the tail is the prime mover.

         For a possible gravity power collector,as a likeness of a sea-shore wave power station,we are concerned about the big waves,not ripples( see "Wheel vs. lever" topic)

                  All the best! / Alex

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #41 on: October 22, 2009, 09:32:45 PM »
   .....has,as a main "actor" (symbol),a full up-down pendular fall in gravity.

        The down-stroke of a pendulum in gravity,has some similarities with the incoming tidal waves...in a certain manner,can be considered a real gravity wave.

        The term "wheel" is a vague,not clearly word :for a fish (body-tail),the tail is the prime mover.

         For a possible gravity power collector,as a likeness of a sea-shore wave power station,we are concerned about the big waves,not ripples( see "Wheel vs. lever" topic)

                  All the best! / Alex

technically Gravity isn't a wave, it is a lensing, the interaction of this lensing moving across a surface causes longitudinal waves with large moving bodies.

the term gravity wave is sort of a misnomer.
Gravity does not have a dipole field like EMF and doesn't form sine waves like EMF, instead any sine wave activity is a direct result of longitudinal waves from the monopole tensor(Gravity) field moving across and interacting body.

these monopole tensor fields or Gravity can have variable lensing densities that causes Gravity to be stronger in one area rather than another due to the density of the interacting mass densities spread out across a planetary body.

did you know that Mt. Everest is so big that it actually has its own Gravitational field, it can mis-align a plumbob by up to 3mm off dead center if placed at the base of the mountain.


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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #42 on: October 23, 2009, 08:03:26 PM »

      Hi Onthecuttingedge!

  Mark Twain said that a text is a frame between two mental words:what the sender  sees vs. what the people can or like to see.

  This is the case here.....we can't detect the gravitational waves,but we can "pack" the gravity fall,as a powerful wave of energy,as on the sea-shore in a wave power plant.

  Then we can temporarely collect this power
 in a flywheel,and play it.

  All that we need,to obtain a self energetic system,is to play in such a manner this power,so to get a self pulsatory vortex-contravortex,with capabilities for a serviceable output.
 
  Anyway,some designs are more clearly and fully expressive on my web site...than a plenty of words.

       All the best! / Alex

     

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #43 on: October 23, 2009, 09:27:11 PM »
Hi Alex.

Do you have a link to the work on your website?

Thanks.
Jerry

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Re: Gravity "wheel" concept...
« Reply #44 on: October 24, 2009, 04:29:22 PM »

   Hi Jerry!

  Try a search with the key -word "Stellarotor" on net,or simply :     www.geocities.com/iacob_alex   

    All the best! / Alex

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