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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2012, 02:25:50 AM »
1 small step forward for us with  honourable PMMG4HYBRID
Solenoid Driven Repulsion Motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie7iHqMVkuc
testbed on old HDD:)

Dear PMMG4HYBRID THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SUPPORT!
We are starting this simple motor model construction!Soon you will see OU on it!
Easy and cheap, grate "toy"!
Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #46 on: February 19, 2012, 02:09:13 AM »
We (Armenian team) have got new setup, its better one based to our tests and observation, use it free guys.
soon we will finish our HHD micro pulse rotor completely, working on the micro solenoid efficiency.Trying to drive it and energize from HDD 3-phase
http://www.sendspace.com/file/0m898x
scaled to 1:1 drawing to print at A4  http://www.sendspace.com/file/elkcj4 (PDF)
don't try to scale it to bigger one - it will not work!Otherwise you need to find new setup with diff. magnets.Just leave spiral and work on it at new scale.
We almost sure it can support other types of magnets(not tested) - ,just keep logic.
We are very happy that can help community with our new research works to get this fast running new setup "toy"
Thanks to honourable Mr. PMMG4HYBRID for fresh idea for us & probably for all of us!!!
Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2012, 05:44:51 PM »
We focused and stop on this construction of actuators with built in magnets.
For such pulse rotor we will make such actuator from 10x2mm Neo tablet
Going to feed it with 100mv 100ma and see what force in Kg we can get from such small amount of power
concept drawing http://www.sendspace.com/file/mzak6k
Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #48 on: February 20, 2012, 02:32:10 AM »
Our works in progress, actuator developed at cad.
We just want to show its internal parts and motion logic. It is the most efficient part.We refused to use general solenoids as far they do not have relevant speed of acting and not efficient. Our baby pulse rotor at HDD going to turn as fast as it is possible.
Next info will come after results. Tomorrow good day to start fabrication works at my lab - we are going to see  this baby girl full power to get OU:)
http://www.sendspace.com/file/brz6n9

Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #49 on: February 21, 2012, 01:13:47 AM »
We made test of HDD RPMs and get bad results, HDD can not support even such small pulse rotor actuator power.HDD need high RPMs to reach relevant power output to support actuator needs.
http://s7.postimage.org/6ny96d96j/hdd_A_rpm_dep_549ma_3630rpm.jpg
http://s13.postimage.org/fxdaiw3sn/hdd_v_rpm_dep_4390mv_5070rpm.jpg
Bad result also results.We will start up actuator from batt, count the output at RPM's and then will make relevant multi pole magnetic small genset.
Furthermore, such actuator able to support 2 pulse rotors and we are going to use such benefit that can give as possibility to use 1 fast small diameter turning pulse rotor-genset to support both rotors running timing only for 1 actuator power dl cap charging  and next, slow running and powerful big diameter pulse rotor and its diff.genset to charge LiPO batts in such need,
Hope we will get result with 1 to 7 actuator gear reduction (7 routines actuator dl cap charging rotor and 1 routine for main genset rotor to chardge external and disconected from system feed batt to reach OU)
Moreover bidirectional actiator can supports its own relevant small BEMF, remember? shaking torch light construction? So its otside magnet on shaft will move magnet that will add energy to its DL CAP's.Actuallly we want to develop smart system that can "see" load of main rotor to drive it fasteer when load going up and slower - when load at main rotor going down. I dont know how it is in English sorry in Russian its is Обратная отрицательна и положительна связь.Such system will be able to drive main rotor at max stable RPMs with and without load on the end.
And in the end - system will support the crash of small magnet rotor magnets by its main rotor batt power that will be conected automaticalli to the brushless small PWM motor to run small rotor. At such crash system will switch on alarm to call "personel" to change small magnet heart to new one:) etc.....
In one word it is Tirer-4 Redundancy 2N+1.System have only 1 narrow bottleneck point - main bidirectional actuator mechanics that will beating very fast
We will see what we can squeeze form such system.We don't know if such binary pulse rotor +actuator systems concept already alive....We think - Only steam engine close more or less to this explaned concept with its 2 diff. sise pistons - yes/no?
We like such system Redundancy:)
Unic magnet-electrical  actuator fabication works at full progress.
And again grate thx to honourable Mr.PMMG4HYBRID for such perfect idea to us about single pulse rotor!
New Idea came to us from human nature - human has heart and it is beating fast to move big heavy body based on 1 general brain named here as actuator!
Truly
Rob
Armenia team
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« Last Edit: February 21, 2012, 02:59:50 AM by Arrow »

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #50 on: February 23, 2012, 01:19:14 AM »
Our team split on two to get max effectiveness in project time and this gave us more result.We have got new rotor pulsing way - from top.
It's better that 1 side pulsing one because using already 2 poles at the same time and we can use full magnetics spins force.
see this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXaoWftdTEY
Now our future actuator can hold 2 small and fast magnetic rotors at the same time to get max possible Redundancy:)
we are very excited to see it in action by hands we are making in this rotor 960 rpm, imagine full rotor mechanic synchronization speed? we can't...
Actuator fabrication works still in progress.
Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #51 on: February 23, 2012, 06:02:13 AM »
Arrow, after watching your video I saw some strong similarities in some of your design to a magnet motor I was looking at again tonight from a document I found a while back.  I think it stands a very good possibility of being a self runner and not that hard to build.  It's got detailed specs even with blueprints.  I'll try to attach it here.  It's 4 small .PDF documents all about the same FE motor.   I have not seen this around the Internet much at all.  It also seems similar to the Wang Shum Ho motor here : http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator  but the last I heard this had been locked up in some way that he can't move forward with producing  it for sale.  His units were said to be capable of making 1 to 5 kilowatts from what appears to be a small unit less than a foot in diameter.

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #52 on: February 23, 2012, 11:01:39 AM »
Arrow, after watching your video I saw some strong similarities in some of your design to a magnet motor I was looking at again tonight from a document I found a while back.  I think it stands a very good possibility of being a self runner and not that hard to build.  It's got detailed specs even with blueprints.  I'll try to attach it here.  It's 4 small .PDF documents all about the same FE motor.   I have not seen this around the Internet much at all.  It also seems similar to the Wang Shum Ho motor here : http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator  but the last I heard this had been locked up in some way that he can't move forward with producing  it for sale.  His units were said to be capable of making 1 to 5 kilowatts from what appears to be a small unit less than a foot in diameter.

 Thx e2matrix for proper evaluation of video & blueprints., but we are going to built and construct only the motors that are possible to construct based ob existing magnets in market. If we will put our heads up from window and order somewhere such spiral ones then everybody will understand what we are going to do and never will support us in our orders or put very high price that will never cover motor profit. Nobody is able to lock up things that are producing in small amounts and spread in country as technology for personal copy. Such scenario only has possibility finally to wakeup eyes and interest of very reach people to start their own "workshop" to earn money and put it on line mass production. When this will happen I will become most happy man as far as such motors will be on sale not from us engineers but professional sales man. Engineers shall not take advantage to put their nose to sale or production; everyone has to do the job that can do in professional way. Even if I am PMP and know a lot how to run complex tech projects I am not salesman and will never be involved to this last part.

All history that I had read about inventors who had try to built and sale magnetic motors was finished that inventor locked up to jail because they thought that they are very talented and can do job alone in time and do not share with others the cake:)Thanks, this is not our way we will do all this in the other way based on bad experience of others. We are not greedy we can wait until this motor will take its place in market in proper way. When you are asking reach man – “please give me credits” – they are asking 1K tone papers to be sure , but when you are collapsing huge world on the head of reach man from every possible sides he is starting survivals procedures and at this stage he do not see possibility but to start its own business to have his own cake until all others did not get market:) and here Very good competition  starting for more good motors and goods because already not engineers asking credits but reach man wants him self to become more reach. This is the weakest point of reach guys brain, they can not stand with when some one making more money than himself and it is not possible to control as far as  it as new flu virus took most of the people. When you know the disease as doctor you know how to treat or kill patient :)

Hope this message also reading reach guys, so Guys be prepared to see flu new virus at the time when you will never know or start good and positive negotiation with us Engineers until all of us not get crazy to release the beast!Stop producing papers, start works to have this sweet cake!
truly
rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #53 on: February 23, 2012, 03:12:00 PM »
The Important actuator cylinder ready and passed my quality control of internal surface where magnetic bidirectional piston must move very fast and with almost zero friction,we made some changes in concept drawing that shown above as far as before actuators drawing we never knew that it is possible to drive rotor from top. It brings us a lot of energetic benefits to run actuator at less current.That is why total diameter of device raised to keep it at must efficiency. Now I like how painted steel is shining inside:)
http://s18.postimage.org/tope4c1w9/act_cilinder_ready.jpg
http://s18.postimage.org/eca8o1s49/act_cilinder_ready2.jpg
Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #54 on: February 24, 2012, 09:26:27 AM »
Arrow, after watching your video I saw some strong similarities in some of your design to a magnet motor I was looking at again tonight from a document I found a while back.  I think it stands a very good possibility of being a self runner and not that hard to build.  It's got detailed specs even with blueprints.  I'll try to attach it here.  It's 4 small .PDF documents all about the same FE motor.   I have not seen this around the Internet much at all.  It also seems similar to the Wang Shum Ho motor here : http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Wang_Shum_Ho_Generator  but the last I heard this had been locked up in some way that he can't move forward with producing  it for sale.  His units were said to be capable of making 1 to 5 kilowatts from what appears to be a small unit less than a foot in diameter.

Dear e2matrix Grate thx for drawings! My math guys conformed its math. Soon new blueprints of same but with general magnets will be published here. We need some time to swallow all possible magnets shapes at market and make estimations to get best price and the best construction based on estimations.
E2Matrix You are gold man! you are not e2matrix  - you are E=MC2 = 0.111 x 300,000,000 x 300,000,000
= 10,000,000,000,000,000 Joules
God bless You FOREVER!!!That was the last drop that we need!!!

Our pulse rotor magnets setup what is running from top different  from drawings Sir. Your published drawing setup is close to this video   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY-QZFm3sZc

We do not have other comments! Perfect!

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Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #55 on: February 24, 2012, 12:07:06 PM »
Our last test with our rotor - top magnet 2 pole cylinder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQReVEs8zAs

Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #56 on: February 24, 2012, 04:35:53 PM »
Some job progress at the process of actuator piston creation.Part become hot, need to cool down, coffee time:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oI9chNm00Y
1/2 of piston ready to go under the dividing head to get magnets buried regions and piston chamber air compensating injectors holes, otherwise it will get real air compression that's able to create friction and relevant acting speed will be shuts down to unknown.
Here is the video what I mean, this is wrong behavior of actuator piston, there is air compression on chamber  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4uWmBuaUDU
ready part here, further works on progress
http://s58.radikal.ru/i160/1202/9a/50b0f436623f.jpg
http://s40.radikal.ru/i089/1202/04/1169283e4db8.jpg
Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #57 on: February 26, 2012, 01:02:11 PM »
What about a 10000 year old Minoan magnet motor, that supposedly is not what it’s supposed to be?

http://www.explorecrete.com/archaeology/Malia-Palace/07_Malia_kernos_EN.html

There are also some ruins of the same… oytside the temple of Hephaestus in Athens Greece and some strange… vessels nearby there, such as these.

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_11.htm

What do you think?

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« Reply #58 on: February 26, 2012, 03:58:28 PM »
Historical numerous proves that aliens had visit Earth and had war between its atlants race to get gold from our planet to save temporally their collapsing planet form heat of local star(SUN) Ha:) and our Grand Grand N times Pa's call them God's :) That is why I wish to e2matrix - God bless You FOREVER!!!
Nothing else :) Dear billaynes this is tech forum you are kindly asked to be more specific, please!.We are trying to recall all our hi tech knowledge here that was lost in centuries to survive and live in peace. Can you help us?
For good bats that can be reachared by open fire I can recommend you 1878y invention of German guy It is produsing 0.78volts 1 cellCurrent depends to Cu surface, as much as it is big that much high current.
Components:
Glass or ceramic small cup
NaOH - 1.29
Cu
Zn
By heating on the open fire the Cu plates by it Oxide when cool down
Cu Oxide creates power with Zn in NaOH
Recharge Cu on fire and plate it with new portion of Oxide and it will generate power again until cupper will not vanish in fire:)
I have done it when Armenia had tuff energetic crisis from 1992-1996, We had only 1 hour per day the AC power and very pure one by its quality.
I swear to my self to fight as warrior with tuff knowledge base against of such situations at all my life until will not get solution! Now I am the way and nothing will be able to disconnect my systems thats provides the power and heat to my people and nation!

Truly
Rob
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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2012, 12:47:57 AM »
Arrow,  Thanks for the comments and blessings :)   Based on one statement in your message above I would like to clarify one or two things.  I may have misunderstood what your were saying but it sounded like you think the spiral shaped pieces are magnetic.  Since these blueprints and the associated douments are not mine I may be wrong but I understood the documents to say that the flat spiral shaped cutouts were iron or steel.  The author of the doucment said: " be sure not to use magnetic metals besides the iron spiral plates so it won’t interfere with the magnetic pull."  So I am fairly sure his meaning is that you do NOT want any metal or iron in holding things together or near the magnets (nothing that would be attracted by a magnet) since that would throw off the attraction of the spiral plates to the magnets.  To clarify his statement said 'besides' when actually it should have said 'beside' or near.  His statement was slightly misleading in that in the strict English interpretation you might think that nothing should be magnetic except the spiral plates BUT I am sure that would be wrong to interpret it that way.  So if you did think the spiral plates need to be magnets this would wrong.  The only magnets in this project are flat bar magnets in the middle of the unit.  Even though the document and blueprints were made by someone in America that is English speaking (as I recall from some other discussion) there are many little nuances and ways to misinterpret things written in English and sometimes just the addition of a single letter like 's' can change the whole meaning or leave it open to several interpretations.  Other languages like German tend to be more precise and leave much less to the readers interpretation.  Anyway I just wanted to make sure you didn't spend a lot of money on spiral magnets as I am quite sure that is not needed.  I am sure it is simply the attraction of the magnets to iron that does the work in this motor.   Best of luck with your project! 

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