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Author Topic: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries  (Read 167460 times)

Offline hartiberlin

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Hi All,
please have a look at this video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myP_i1T2kwY

It is a special rotary howard johnson style motor-generator with a special additional
star-gate-magnet DC-motor coupled.

This combinations is powerd by some precharged ( half charged) capacitors and then let go.
No batteries or other power sources connected.

This device then accelerates and charges up the capacitors.

So this is a potential free energy machine as it overcomes the friction of the system and
also generates some additional energy output by charging up the capacitor bank.

Congratulations to youtube user PMMG4HYBRID
for having build such a wonderful unit !

Regards, Stefan.


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Offline hoptoad

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Very interesting. I hope this fellow is forthcoming with more information.
Cheers

Offline storkfmny

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This should be easy enough to replicate if it's real

Offline tinu

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What's so interesting?!
Q=C*U or U=Q/C
Lower the capacity (C), higher the voltage (U) for a given charge (Q) flowing in the series circuit.

If the big cap was 1nF, the voltage would instantly go to the maximum EMF of that generator. So what?!

Now I have a real difficult question: how it comes a guy knowing so little about electricity has so fancy devices and expensive stuff? That is something I can't really understand. ;)

Offline crazycut06

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Nice! a combination of howard johnson magnet motor a pulse motor plus and a modified dc motor, wonder how fast it would go if he did not disconnect the power to the motor...and what extra power it could give out... more videos pls... ;D

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Offline DreamThinkBuild

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Great find Stefan,

Is this the basics so far(minus control circuitry)? I wasn't sure of the caps or how the generator feeds the caps, feel free to fix/notify if this is in error.

- 5x 1F(?), 2.5vdc caps

- 1x 20mF, 16vdc caps

- Prime mover is his modified "Stargate" DC motor, running off three 1F, 2.5vdc, 7.5vdc total

- Generator is a low rpm axial flux generator for/from wind turbine being fed back into entire cap bank?

Hi Tinu,

I have the same question, about the charging of the top cap. It's going to charge quick, so is he just measuring the quick charging of the small F cap added to the slow discharge of the higher F caps? The real test would be with a load to see if the top cap is really just inflating the reading.

What I do find most interesting with this setup though is the speed increase, which is hard to get with any kind of self generated feedback loop.


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I think the 16 volt cap is a 120,000uf.  Also, the star-gate motor is assisted by a built-in Wankel style magnet motor with a single coil pulsing once or twice per revolution.  The Wankel is built around the outside of the axial style generator that is located in the center of the generator box.  With just the Wankel running the generator, he  says that it will run for an hour or two.  The strange thing is that it speeds up after he manually starts it, but then it runs out of juice in an hour.  That does not make good sense to me.

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Offline crazycut06

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Yeah, i think the wankel motor Does the major spin of the rotor and the pulsing coil assist only to reset the rotors starting position...


What do you think if he put more caps in the rail, would it spin longer or maybe will not stop?

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Hi Tinu,

I have the same question, about the charging of the top cap. It's going to charge quick, so is he just measuring the quick charging of the small F cap added to the slow discharge of the higher F caps? The real test would be with a load to see if the top cap is really just inflating the reading.

What I do find most interesting with this setup though is the speed increase, which is hard to get with any kind of self generated feedback loop.

Hi DreamThinkBuild,

You don’t need another test. It’s already done in the video: the voltage clearly drops (albeit slowly) due to the very small load attached (the internal resistance of the DMM, probably 10MOhm).

On the second issue, imho it is not really a “self generated feedback loop”. The feedback current quickly goes to zero (due to the rapid charging of the terminal cap) hence rapidly decreasing counter-torque, hence acceleration. Meanwhile, the other 3 much larger caps of 1/3F at 4V or so have enough energy to temporarily sustain the motor.

Best regards,
Tinu

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Hi Tinu,

Thank you very much for the informative reply. The increase in speed makes sense now.

Hi Liberty,

Thanks for the update on the cap.

I think I see why he is losing charge over an hour or two from Tinu's explanation.

Once the top cap is full the feedback current is near zero, the motor will still be drawing from the three motor caps though.

As the three caps slowly lose charge the fast charging cap is acting as counter balance to the lost charge on the three motor caps.

Once a point is reached the top caps will not be able to sustain the current draw from the motor and lost charge from the three motor caps then it stops.

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2012, 06:19:20 PM »
Hi guys! I just want to say that if his motor generator is close to unity (runs for two hours), it is obvious to me that the overunity part of the system should be his stargate motor.
It would be great if someone could test a stargate type motor coupled with an identical motor as a generator and see if it exceeds unity.

His stargate motor video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xv-req4U8U&list=UUreJcMjYx-ovTpN4MomNNtw&index=3&feature=plcp


Dann

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2012, 08:29:41 PM »
What's so interesting?!
Q=C*U or U=Q/C
Lower the capacity (C), higher the voltage (U) for a given charge (Q) flowing in the series circuit.

If the big cap was 1nF, the voltage would instantly go to the maximum EMF of that generator. So what?!

Now I have a real difficult question: how it comes a guy knowing so little about electricity has so fancy devices and expensive stuff? That is something I can't really understand. ;)
I have questions for you! have you ever succeed to produce any device able to accelerate with no power supply, while even filling caps? And why he made this vid and talk about the new cap if it is because the it has made a significant positive change I would like to see many here to do like?
And what makes you so jealous that you feel need to be so negatively critical and depreciative with this experimentator that try to make progresses for free energy? and has made so very clean apparatus? and stay humble on his results?

As I see, while he has put a link to this thread, he didn't come post then after, and why should he do if so negatives comments as you did?

Offline Khwartz

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2012, 09:16:37 PM »
I think the 16 volt cap is a 120,000uf.  Also, the star-gate motor is assisted by a built-in Wankel style magnet motor with a single coil pulsing once or twice per revolution.  The Wankel is built around the outside of the axial style generator that is located in the center of the generator box.  With just the Wankel running the generator, he  says that it will run for an hour or two.  The strange thing is that it speeds up after he manually starts it, but then it runs out of juice in an hour.  That does not make good sense to me.
Hi Liberty! Note that he never said it stops or after how long it's stopped in his last vid, only for previous about only his Quanta Magnet Motor Generator Hybrid! but looks he is afraid to come here to say more; I ask myself "why?" !...
Regards.

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2012, 07:32:19 PM »
I don't know. Before trying to figure out exactly how this machine works, I'm wondering why he said "Is this over unity or not? I'll let you decide" Why doesn't he say it is or isn't. If I had something over unity I would be yelling it from the highest hill. I couldn't wait to get on to the next test to show off my find. I could think of all kind of interesting tests to prove what I have. Where are the follow up videos or even better credible verification from someone. I'm tired of things that are shrouded in mystery and self discovery. I challenge this guy to give us solid proof of concept. How many people here have tried to duplicate the Mike motor or the Romero motor or how many others? The Stargate Motor? Come on. You can't just slap magnets around the outside of a DC motor anywhere you want without knowing exact timing by position as well as manyother things and expect to see results. Not to mention the outside steel of the case is a form of keeper and will let very little trough to the other side.  Has anyone ever built a Stargate motor? Sorry guys this all looks to familiar to me. The only thing missing here so far is instructions or a DVD for sale.
John H
 
 

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2012, 08:30:24 PM »
Hi John (dadhav),
 
While I agree with many of your sentiments, especially the amount of flux getting past the casing, I can tell you
that with the small motor in the pic below and the 4 small neos, the rpms increase from around 2400 to 3150 - mind you
the current draw does not increase!
 
I don't understand why or how, but I simply wanted to try it and that is the result I got.
 
Thanks, Garry.

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Re: Accelerating motor-generator selfcharging capacitors without any batteries
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