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Title: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on August 22, 2011, 05:22:46 AM
Hi Everyone...

Plasmics...

http://pop.aip.org/resource/1/phpaen/v18/i4/p043503_s1?isAuthorized=no

http://iopscience.iop.org/0022-3727/39/16/018

http://www.tappi.org/content/events/07europlace/presentation/07europl51.pdf

RM  ;D

Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on August 24, 2011, 04:40:19 AM
The purpose of this thread I intend be twofold...

Community build a database of information for experimentation with plasmics...

Play with ideas on where plasmics could go... and make interesting lines of inquiry...

I have put up an interesting design and some information to analyse at your leisure...

Any experts knowing how to generate the required HV DC and RF frequencies economically for the home builder... a thread sharing your knowledge might be incredibly productive at this time...

Here is some basic info on RF...

http://www.vintage-radio.com/projects/signal-generator.html

One of these stimulating a RotoMax might create a very interesting reaction when a pulsed jet of high energy plasma enters the area of maximum fluid compression, inside the rotor,  and collides with the water jet ahead acting as the low energy mass flow buffer... the friction interaction, temperature balancing, and energy wave drag dynamics will be a fascinating study in themselves... a tip of an iceberg... and the energetics is any chef's soup ;)

Generate the primary trigger, balance the pressures within the priming cycle to provide timing and content by volume, manipulate the energy conversions of different fluids to desired energy potentials, detonate and shape the resultant fluid flow to produce thrust...

Good Times... Have Fun...  ;D

RM :)

Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on September 18, 2011, 12:52:01 PM
Hi Everyone,

The PRotoMax System incorporates a Tesla Turbine Water Pump, powered by a DC Motor prime mover, to generate water mass flow through the PRotoMax.

The Everyman Wet Cell generates the primary trigger for compression via the HELP before injection into the PHELIS for Plasma variation and detonation functions. The HELP is powered by a DC Motor which also powers the Air Compressor for PHELIS Nitrogen injection. The HELP and Turbine Air Compressor are coupled via a magnetic slip clutch.

The PRotoMax is mounted within the water sump of the system.

PRotoMax fluid exhaust is vented into a reservoir chamber where it attains a pressure balance in the system via steam regulation, maintaining the system water level, and is regulated via turbine back pressure once the system is up to operating temperature.

The Steam Injection Variant allows the steam pressure to be utilised for either secondary injection into the PRotoMax or to power the Tesla Turbine Water Pump from Steam allowing you to remove the second DC Motor from the system.

Some information links:

http://www.magnomatics.com/

http://www.freshpatents.com/Variable-magnetic-coupling-of-rotating-machinery-dt20080626ptan20080149445.php

RM :)

Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on September 18, 2011, 11:27:50 PM
To not be continued...

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 04, 2011, 11:31:00 PM
Hi Everyone,

I have been trying to move on and work on other commitments but my mind will not let me until I finish this thread. It is the last in the series, requires completion, and so without further ado let's get on with it.

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 04, 2011, 11:40:25 PM
Hi Everyone,

Ultrasonic Atomisers will allow creation of a fine water vapor in the range 0 - 10 microns, similar to steam. This is an option for venturi injection into a Plasma Injector by piggy backing one of the other pressurised gas flows in the priming cycle.

Here is a youtube video showing vapor formation in slow motion, very cool  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN-OcMSwS2I

Here are some off the shelf ultrasonic atomisers with usefull technical sheets at a reasonable price :)

http://uk.farnell.com/prowave/m2313500/transducer-atomiser-135khz/dp/1774944?Ntt=m2313500

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/482943.pdf

http://uk.farnell.com/prowave/m165d25/atomiser-ultrasonic-liquid-1-65mhz/dp/1007369

http://www.farnell.com/datasheets/81205.pdf

Atomisation is important because a very small particle size means less bonds to break to release the stored energy.

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 04, 2011, 11:44:27 PM
Hi Everyone,

http://www.gordonengland.co.uk/ps.htm

A schematic of the Plasma Spray Process which can be modified to provide the compression and expansion phases we require for use in a Plasma Injector to control and shape the fluid flow.

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 04, 2011, 11:50:13 PM
Hi Everyone,

http://www.gordonengland.co.uk/ds.htm

A schematic of the Detonation Plasma Spray Process which is the principle that the Plasma Injector is based upon. The function is further improved by the De Laval shaped insert. The powder addition will no longer be required. The Nitrogen purge may work very well as part of the priming cycle. Fairly simple to adapt this known technology to Plasma Injector designs. Note the water cooled barrel which is already incorporated into PRotoMax designs via mounting within the water sump of the system and so both injector and rotor are permanently submerged.

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 04, 2011, 11:55:14 PM
Hi Everyone,

Air may not itself be pure enough to provide the Nitrogen we need without some contamination that would foul the Injector and Rotor. It will be possible to incorporate a fractional distillation process to separate the air into its different gases using known technologies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_separation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_air

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 04, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
Hi Everyone,

Now let's talk about sea water distillation in the next few posts:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-stage_flash_distillation

RM :)

Schematic of a multi-stage flash desalinator
A - Steam in
B - Seawater in
C - Potable water out
D - Waste out
E - Steam out
F - Heat exchange
G - Condensation collection
H - Brine heater
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 05, 2011, 12:00:26 AM
Hi Everyone,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-effect_distillation

RM :)

Schematic of a multiple effect desalination plant. The first stage is at the top. Pink areas are vapor, lighter blue areas are liquid feed water. Stronger turquoise is condensate. It is not shown how feed water enters other stages than the first. F - feed water in. S - heating steam in. C - heating steam out. W - Fresh water (condensate) out. R - brine out. O - coolant in. P - coolant out. VC is the last-stage cooler.
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 05, 2011, 12:01:37 AM
Hi Everyone,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple-effect_evaporator

RM :)

Diagram of a double-effect falling film evaporator. Condensing vapors from flash tank B1 heat evaporator A2. 1=feed, 2=product, 3=steam, 4=vapors
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 05, 2011, 12:04:01 AM
Hi Everyone,

Now let's talk about fluids and pressure:

http://www.fathom.com/course/10701050/session1.html

http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/WindTunnel/Activities/fluid_pressure.html

http://www.calctool.org/CALC/other/games/depth_press

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 05, 2011, 12:07:56 AM
Hi Everyone,

Now let's talk about the composition of the sea:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundances_of_the_elements_%28data_page%29#Sea_water

http://goldfever.com/gold_sea.htm

http://www.wisegeek.com/can-gold-be-extracted-from-seawater.htm

As we can see there are many different types of metals and minerals to be harvested from the sea, if an economical way can be found, the most obvious being salt.

RM :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 05, 2011, 12:39:14 AM
Hi Everyone,

Now let's pull it all together...

Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 05, 2011, 01:02:20 AM
The Ocean is effectively a huge dam and if we were to tap it at a point below the surface equilibrium pressure then we would have a reliable, constant positive pressure to pump sea water provided by nature free of charge to us.

The PRotoMax Co-generation Power and Distillation Plant has been designed by me to utilise this free energy. The entire plant complex will be buried beneath the surface of the Earth, in a disused quarry near the shoreline for example. This will provide a temperature insulated environment with a relatively small range swing, and also provide protection from EMP events that could damage the plants control electronics due to the mass of earth and rock above.

I have designed the system without elaborate control electronics, and based it upon pressure and rotational speed for simplicity, but it never hurts to have an extra level of protection :)

Because the Plant is built within a fluid medium and filled by air when you breach the sea water in pipe, the ocean pressure will displace the air, and the positive salt water will flow into the desalination plant.

The salt water will be distilled by your choice of process and produce two products, one in the form of waste brine that will flow out under gravity into the waste processing plant to remove precious metals and minerals and toxins from the ocean... the second will produce a pure water output that becomes the medium the PRotoMax Turbine Generator is submersed within.

The PRotoMax will generate power from it's rotary moment that can be converted to electricity, and the waste heat will be absorbed by the pure water medium and turned into steam.

The steam will be directed to provide the heat for the low temperature distillation process and also vented vertically where it will collect in the heat exchanger tank as condensate.

This condensate will then flow out of the Gravity Irrigator Tank, through a microbore tubing network to keep the pressure up and be dispersed by gravity. Very small holes in the microbore tubing at regular intervals will slowly drip, like a tap left just open, and irrigate the land below.

Very quickly you will have ecosystems growing on the irrigated land around the Plant, and it can be easily controlled by manual low pressure valves at the central location. You can also use some of the electrical power generated by the PRotoMax to pump the water further away.

There is much more to say on this, but now you have the general idea I am going to let you explore the benefits of this system for yourself. That is where the fun is after all  ;D

Best wishes to you all, I have nothing more to post, Thankyou all for listening to my ideas. It is time I got to work on other projects...

Rob Mason :)
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: ramset on October 05, 2011, 02:44:14 AM
Rob
You have an amazing mind, and you put it to such good use!!
It is great to have you here!
I wish we had the Lab to play with your "Plasmics"!!
It sure does look like the game changer !
Thank you


Your friend
Chet Kremens
Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 07, 2011, 01:23:49 AM
Hi Chet,

It is not “my Plasmics”, it is “your Plasmics”, I gave it to you. Do with it what you will.

For those thinking a large bore pipe drilled, and laid horizontally, deep below the surface is a pain in the ass... your right it is...

There is a simpler option:

http://www.misterfixit.com/siphon.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon

Then after you have taken care of the works “underground” take care of the works “above ground”...

http://www.edenproject.com/whats-it-all-about/index.php

There is nothing I have shown you that you do not all collectively know, it is time to work together, and stop being selfish. There is no more time to sit on the fence, make your choice and live or die by it. Humans are on the verge of extinction, work together and build a future paradise... or perish and become forgotten. It is your individually collective choice.

Time is up... so decide... and act accordingly...

RM :)

Title: Re: PLASMICS
Post by: evolvingape on October 24, 2011, 07:41:45 PM
Hi Everyone,

The PRotoMax Plasma Repulsor Linear Firing Valve...

This is designed to be an automatic valve with reciprocal piston travel controlled by variable pressure differentials within the assembly.

The Nitrogen or Air running continuously will provide additional fluid injection to the PRotoMax during Priming cycles. While Priming, the Nitrogen will be stimulated into Plasma via High Voltage Electricity and Radio Frequency stimulation.

The HHO input will also run continuously and will be under controlled injection via the reciprocating travel of the LFV. HHO bleed through into the Plasma Chamber will become a controlled variable for altering the properties of the Nitrogen Plasma.

The HHO when detonated via a spark plug and timing circuit will form a detonation wave that will reach a static peak chamber pressure before being converted to fluid velocity. At the point of maximum expansion at the LFV tip the detonation wave will blow through the Plasma and then be once again converted back to pressure at the static point of maximum compression before being converted to fluid velocity.

This high velocity Plasma fluid is then injected into the PRotoMax rotor. Once inside the rotor it is continuously converted back and forth between pressure and velocity, transmitting energy to the rotor and providing torque to the drive shaft, before being exhausted into the water medium of the system sump.

While inside the rotor this high temperature Plasma fluid will attempt to force itself through the liquid water present from K Valve pulsing (which is providing the mass flow buffer), the Nitrogen from the Repulsor injected during the Priming Cycle, and the H2O that has been vaporised to gas phase in the form of steam.

If we were to then place Radio Frequency Generators around the PRotoMax rotor housing, within the water sump of the system, then the high temperatures and high fluid compression / velocity conversions may under RF stimulation create pockets of pulsing spinning Plasma within the rotor itself via the pyrocatalytic cracking process.

The energy required to run the PRotoMax will be electricity to create the HHO primary explosive charge, the energy required to run an air pump and a water pump, and the electrical energy required to run the detonation spark and timing circuit.

Being completely submerged in the water sump means that 100% energy recovery from “waste” heat will be possible and this creates the steam for use in seawater distillation and land irrigation processes.

This system has been designed to run completely from the power of the Sun in a desert environment by converting the sunlight to electricity and / or heat via a solar conversion device:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concentrating_solar_power

The fuel required to run a PRotoMax Power Plant is widely available to everyman and consists completely of free, virtually unlimited energy in the form of Sunlight, Ocean Seawater and Atmospheric Air.

Considering the potential benefits of such a plant it is well worth the investment to build, test and prove... hopefully the people in this world with the resources to make that happen, choose to do so.

Have fun all...

Rob Mason :)

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10451.0

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10274.0

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10218.0

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=10425.0

 ;)