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« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2011, 01:11:37 PM »
Learning by trying is effort rewarded.   There is another side to what we are commonly taught.  Please check out Walter Russell's work. 

Ed may have been collecting charges off the INSIDE of his generator, the engine was only an iron mass, as was the bicycle which was NOT grounded.  His coils and air capacitors may have been used merely to filter or flow those magnetic charges to objects.  Russell teaches that bar magnets have 4 pairs of poles not one pair only.   

What your doing is what we need.  Ways of defining what is really happening when "flow" is in motion.  Electrical current is only half of what is happening.   When we devise ways of seeing both halves with our senses we will learn how to use "flow".  Magnetics is in a 90 degree opposition to EMF.

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« Reply #31 on: August 22, 2011, 10:43:24 PM »
Well it seems I did not think about heating of the soft steel wire when I run this thing in motor mode.  Strange that I have run it in generator mode for long time periods with no heat up of the soft steel wire but after a few minutes of run with 12V about 1.5A AC pulses, it melted my hot glue and yet the wire for the copper coil was not hot, anyway it took me 5 attempts to get an armature and brush system that would work.

The soft steel wire was not shorted, so that part of the system was left open and since the copper wire was cold I think that their was maybe some magnetic induction heating anyway, again strange that that does not seem to happen in generator mode.

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« Reply #32 on: August 22, 2011, 11:45:55 PM »
hooked some meters up for power in and it is 19.8V between .87A to 1.04A, not much in the way of consistancy but when the Amp draw goes up so does the RPM, no meter for that but it is not spinning much faster than a couple hundred RPM right now, I only get about 2 minutes of run before the glue melts and still I do not feel much heat from the copper wire.

I need to replace the armature already, 20 watts with an arc can mess up copper tape armatures :)

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« Reply #33 on: August 23, 2011, 08:37:45 AM »
Well it seems I did not think about heating of the soft steel wire when I run this thing in motor mode.  Strange that I have run it in generator mode for long time periods with no heat up of the soft steel wire but after a few minutes of run with 12V about 1.5A AC pulses, it melted my hot glue and yet the wire for the copper coil was not hot, anyway it took me 5 attempts to get an armature and brush system that would work.

The soft steel wire was not shorted, so that part of the system was left open and since the copper wire was cold I think that their was maybe some magnetic induction heating anyway, again strange that that does not seem to happen in generator mode.


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« Reply #34 on: August 23, 2011, 06:19:31 PM »
I have seen those experiments and played with variants of them, been doing that for years and years, however, what I am currently playing with is not the same, I mean sure it is to do with say something like magnetic currents which would be similar but not the same and I think that it is even more than just "currents" that a lot of us are playing with.

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« Reply #35 on: August 23, 2011, 09:13:30 PM »
Here's a pic of my simple rotor with a very simple brush assembly, while making testbeds just to look for what you want do next it is sometimes nice to do a quick and crude setup like this.

I dropped the voltage down to avoid the overheating core section, so now I am feeding it 14.7V no load to the caps, which are setup as a voltage divider so that I can have a very easy AC pulse, while running I have the caps up to 11V showing and a draw of .32A.

It started out much higher on draw and lower on voltage but after it ran for a while it sped up by itself and the draw went down, once I was sure the heat problem was not going to affect things I continued to let it run for about 45 minutes and ended up at the final readings.

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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2011, 05:13:34 PM »
I am not good with inductive heating values but I got a reading of 114F from the soft steel and rising when I had to stop, the glue melted, and if you look at the picture I have about 12FT of soft steel wire that is heating up and when you call it 300 RPM with 6 poles that is 900 cycles per minute which is 15hz and even if we call it 40W input doesn't that seem a little bit more heat than I should be having to deal with??

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« Reply #37 on: August 25, 2011, 06:24:53 AM »
my bad, it is about 6ft of soft steel wire not 12ft.

Just tried a single direction wrap of soft steel wire and with a single magnet rotating around the circumference I get a primarily DC output, but when I use a multiple magnet single pole rotor in the middle I get AC as well as when I use a NS pole rotor I get AC, when I put power into the copper coil and have a long pole face multiple magnet single pole out in the middle of the coil assembly I get a directional push or pull depending on how you wish to look at it, nothing big really but it is somehow not quite the same as just a copper coil.

Another interesting thing is that it seems like after I run a single pole around the coil for so long the output goes down until I reverse the direction then it comes back up but in reverse polarity, also if I oscillate the coil assembly up and down with the multiple magnet single pole rotor in the middle it makes the most output, AC of course.

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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2011, 11:36:31 PM »
A simple thought;  What if there was a "hidden" dimension within the ones we can interact with, what would I see of this dimension lets say if something else within our interactive dimensions was able to interact with the hidden one, well would I not see a force being applied at a distance, through some space of separation from the source of influence and the item reacting?  Don't we see this with things like the magnetic force and or the electric force and so on, would that make these forces "physical" but just not within our interactive dimensions so we would not see the contact only the effect.

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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2011, 10:18:02 PM »
Just for fun I took and made 2 identical coils and placed then on a common core with the ends tight against each other then I placed them in front of a magnetic rotor and spun it and hooked the coils together in series, parallel and "bucking", well it is interesting to note that in "bucking" mode you can offset the center of the coils in relation to the rotor and get them producing almost as much current as when they are in series, kind of maybe showing that the induced values can be setup to be helpful or subtractive.

I made another mystery coil yesterday, it is not would like a conventional coil and only sort of responds like a conventional coil BUT this one hates to have a core in the center of it, which is opposite to a conventional coil,, interesting so far but not a lot to mention about it, I mean it only puts out about 15mA at a slow speed but the way it is made I can use part of it to drive the rotor while the other part acts as a generator and maybe do that without any interference for either one from either one.


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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2011, 10:36:34 PM »
So I took my modified PMH and set it up next to a weak rotor, and well all I have to do is pulse the coil and it will continue to rotate the rotor around until the preferred pole comes to it, then a quick pulse the other way and away the rotor spins.

This motor effect is weak with my present coils that I am playing with but I feel that if what is happening is understood the force value can be raised and since the feedback or induction moment is also small that would infer that this would be a high RPM motor,, think about it a small cost over a short time returning a small force over a longer time, aka mechanical advantage.

My mystery coil does a few other stranger things, it would appear that for a short time period after energizing the coil it has a single pole preference, that would mean a monopole,, need to play with it more to make sure what I was seeing was indeed there and not an outside influence that I have not noticed.

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« Reply #41 on: September 03, 2011, 12:00:55 AM »
here is a pic of the first ever, to the best of my knowledge anyway, electromagnetic flux capacitor drive motor


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« Reply #42 on: September 08, 2011, 01:29:21 AM »
Just a simple, useless test, but right now I am running this little motor very slowly on 22.2V and .00075A DC.

I had it running better but I tried to move it so I could use my keyboard and changed the coil and brush setup accidentally.

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« Reply #43 on: September 09, 2011, 07:14:28 PM »
Now I am running it on 44.2V hovering around .55mA.  I have the brushes set for a 2 degree on time per pulse and I have 4 pulses per revolution, so 8 degrees on time for 360 degrees of small torque.  I am using 6 9V batteries that are rather flat, they only have 44.4V after letting them rest overnight.

So far it seems as tho the value is related to watts in but I am not sure of what wattage I need to do what with, I have very limited stuff to try and check things with.

As long as my brushes do not arc the input stays low, when they arc the input jumps up, sometimes as high as 3mA, not sure why they arc from time to time unless it is after a contact "misses" i time or two then the cap imbalance will be large enough to arc, I am guessing on that right now.

At times the motor will start to speed up a little, it is only spinning at about 30 RPM, and the draw goes down but unfortunately then the brushes arc and the draw goes up and the motor slows down.

I am using a capacitive voltage divider to give me an AC pulse and I now have 2 coils that I am running, non of this is setup very accurately, just using things to look for trends.

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« Reply #44 on: September 11, 2011, 06:16:00 PM »
An interesting observation;  Using my mystery coil as an inductor, when I bring in a single pole towards the end of the coil I will get an initial induction value, but upon repeated oscillations of the same pole the induced value drops significantly, when I flip the magnet over on the first induction moment I get a nice reading but on subsequent oscillations it drops, so does that mean that the core structure is holding the permanent magnetic field value, similar to a capacitor?


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